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changed map name, improved many things, added tp everywhere

ah this map cool one

https://tenor.com/view/nxs-cube-cornball-ball-corn-gif-2361257093465839159

mapname kinda this i cant lie ^

what

i liked old name better

its a cornball name

that's crazy

(in tele)

not sure if this is intended but it feels kinda mid

at least, to get to that setup it feels not fun. the hook+dj itself is fine

ok I see why you dont have unfreeze in tele. but I think you should rather just make the start of parts have a bit more space so u dont accidentally hold A/D into freeze. right now its awkward playing some tele parts because of it

this is just a nitpick though its up to u, i could see it being part of map style

u prob dont need tele7 here, this part isnt faily

i disagree with louis, i think 1 sec freeze instead of unfreeze is a great solution at some parts and doesnt feel much much slower at all. but at totele 4, 7, 8 and 9 u should add unfreeze. theres no reason for 1 sec freeze/no unfreeze.

not sure i missed the special trick for this jump but it feels too faily so far in the map.

walk from left wall and dj 1 tile above freeze

Whathehell starkiller talking

1. i agree with starkiller and there is rather no way to make it better imo
2. totally wrong way
3. it's the most optimal way to place tp, unreal to miss hook so no point in additional tp, otherwise idk
4. another optimal way for tp if doing intentional way, ceiling feature is nonsense as well as hooking in a wrong angle imo
5. it's faily enough to hit 1 tile 2 times

3. nah
4. nah
5. less faily than 3. hook

2 mappers vs 1 admin mapper

Vs tester

he probably has the most roles in the server actually

i would say he doesn't have the moderator role but neither does any admin anyway

in competition with melon

Melón sin for 1

Bc melon pay nitro

GER and Red are cheat roles as far as im concerned

when USA role

fr should name it melancholia

an unpleasant and inconsistent place

uninteresting part, just hold one hook

unfairly difficult place

A strange setup that stands out from the flow of the map

I don't like that I have to control the swing to avoid flying to the right

I don't like that you have to step off the platform and then jump, it can be confusing

There's only one part on the map with a setup for freeze jump, which is weird

very confusing and strange swing setup on part

It's a nasty jump, so it's best to remove part of the platform to avoid stupid deaths

I don't like this place, you have to jump back and forth 3 times, it doesn't fit into the overall structure of the map

you can die stupidly

I think you can put a TP here, then the last part won't be a fail and this one won't be either

The autopart on the map is not connected to autoparts in any way is bad

unpleasant + why

strange and boring part

I don't know what these tp are for, but they've never helped me. I think I need to increase their number

weird and unpleasant part

unfairly difficult and unpleasant part, very often does not reach the platform

I really don't like this climb, it would be better to remove. The part at the top is already quite interesting and challenging

Just jumping twice is not an interesting part

Why is the ceiling so high, it seems like you need to use your second jump for the hook, but you need to save it for the part, it's confusing

Adding parts for luck is bad for me (yes, for me, flying into the one tile is luck)

again, unpleasant swing control

The part is good, but it doesn't fit into the map

awkward + boring part

unpleasant jump, bad setup

It's not convenient to jump here

It's too unpleasant a place for the end of the part, I would move the freeze 1-2 blocks to the right

I don't like the finish, it's too short to react after a huge swing. I would just put the finish on top so I could immediately fly into it and not worry about it

The map is very tight and inconvenient. I would, for example, widen the passages and make the hookable blocks larger, for example 2x2

For example, if we increase the number of hookable blocks here, the part will become much more fun and comfortable

There is no flow on the map, all the parts are in disarray and there is no overall structure

The map has a very weak design, and the map needs to be send with a finished design so that testers can test both the design and the gameplay

In general, for me it's a decline, but there are a lot of cool ideas on the map

everything you sent is ridiculous

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thats ridicuolous

AURA

OMGDD

i wonder why ur map went untested for 3mo

Fix your attitude and review the feedback carefully

1. not a problem
2. okay
3. it is fairly difficult
4. it is a normal setup
5. okay
6. okay
7. it is not weird
8. does require practice idk what to say
9. does require a few brain cells idk
10. it does fit perfectly
11. don't die stupidly, that's the part
12. okay
13. what
14. pleasant
15. i suppose you didn't do it right, like most of parts
16. teles are here in case you miss hook, use right platform
17. okay
18. okay this is insane, the part is not even hard
19. okay
20. it is interesting
21. you don't need to save it???
22. it's not luck??
23. use dj
24. it does fit
25. not awkward and not boring
26. works perfectly
27. okay
28. it's not that hard
29. not even that hard, dj after hitting ceiling and wall, it is a part
30. i know you're not very experienced and for you it's definitely more fun if the part is easy and doesn't require much reaction, but keep in mind there are players who want to play harder maps too, thanks for taking your time to test, sorry for being rude, maybe you could understand me if i'm more experienced and see the game in a slightly different way

https://klipy.com/gifs/better-call-saul-saul-goodman-36

If you don't like criticism that much, you can look at the "Memoria" map and compare it with yours, they are quite similar, maybe I just didn't explain it well

ok i fully tested again map and its a lot better from my last test for me is map redy if u put unfrezze on all to tp this 1 sec frezze annoying.

also i still think sometime a bit too much punishable with no reason, but its releasable for me. gl

1. improved part
2. made a little more obvious i think
3. made part harder
4. changed part a little also if a tester reads it, change map name to "synopsis", i'm not best at naming maps i know

feel free to suggest better decision to prevent players run into freeze after being teled

Thats the 84 map that i tested?

U say it like u dont know how to do it. Do u need examples and help with that?

No, I'm fine with the way I made it

made teles in a way to avoid 1sec freeze

skip

delete this freeze so that the player no need to freeze 3 second if they accidently press jump after go into the tele

maybe need some freeze or something here to force the player press only left while swinging (because it is super hard to recognize to press only left at the first try)

crazy skip, i'd leave it

rest fixed + minor changes

can you add unfreeze on this tele? if you swing too hard and touch the freeze on the roof then you just stay frozen

Did that really happen

yeah

don't have to swing to get frozen, just walk into freeze left to to tele

what is this part for

for looking more interesting

i think if anything it only makes the part less sight readable

when i saw this at first i thought i have to use it somehow

can you maybe add some freeze here or even just a way out, currently if you fall here its softlock

i think its also worth adding more freeze here so that the player doesnt get the idea of jumping on that tile on the left

might be worth to cover this corner just so someone doesnt get the wrong idea and try to hook it

could do the same here tbh

some more freeze here would be nice, i think it would make it a bit more obvious on what you have to do

overall i really liked the map and most setups were really nice

i just think the map suffers from the lack of sight readability

and that makes the parts a bit harder to figure out just by looking at them

extending the freeze here would also be helpful imo

is this also supposed to be decorative? i dont think placing such things actually improves the design

the stuff you mentioned would make sense if it was a 1* map but currently i don't feel like fixing that, i don't want to feed players with a spoon or whatever you call that

like seriously

i dont see how improving the readablity of parts is something that should only be done for 1* maps

it's part of experience (especially harder maps) to figure out the part, at least that's how i see it

doing such tweaks doesnt remove the fact that player has to figure the part out

its just easier to do so if you know what you are looking at

especially because theres no real visual separation between playable and non playable areas here

improved design, fixed some stuff mentioned above, made swing easier

^

Not sure if first one is easy enough, second one is definitely perfect cord, probably not worth fixing

design

The map already looks ready for me

im not sure about map difficulty

3* worthy

fast looked at the map again. looks like no big changes from my last run

its $ready for me

This is 4* 100%

I remember played it long time ago, idk about the changes hmm :)

U need much vision to guess parts

I can guarantee you this one freeze will make everyone rq and make up their mind about the whole map, which is a shame cuz later on parts feel very nice to play, I'd suggest removing it

this is very punishing, add tele here

same story, tele back up, also add freeze in this hole to make it obvious you're not supposed to go in

you can very easily touch top freeze there and then have no way to progress or go back, add some tele back, could be 1 tile if it looks better

tele 5 here, such gotchas at the end of long parts are awful

and then this

should be more to the right, so you don't accidentally walk into 4

this part was very hard to figure out, because of this hookable, it looks like you need to go up and then hook it with speed and if you try hard enough it works but it's awful and faily. I'd suggest some small rework to get hook out of the way, here's one way to do it

unnecessary unfreeze, but if you really want it there then it's fine

tele here, when you first do it, it's not very obvious when to release, will be nicer if you can retry

this part is quite wonky mainly because of this freeze, if I'm understanding your intention right then I don't see an ez fix, but I'd encourage you to try to find a better setup or make it more reliable

tele here

I'll ready after you address these

thanks for test, unfortunately i cannot agree with first 3 screenshots (1: freeze is too good 2: i assume you done part wrongly 3: tele wouldn't make any sense there(same for 2)) everything else fixed

ye, you're right about 3, marked it in a wrong place my bad, can you hop on the test server real quick?

2

this isnt 3 stars bro. put it minimum at 4 ...

it has a lot of weird timings + faily asf

/nn

just played the map. good map. i feel like this is more of a 4 star map as well. im gonna ask the "responsible" testers if they are willing to change the rating.

smoll corner differences

intentional ig?

added logo

updated

i wish he would have fixed it.. this is just tilting for no reason 1s in the map its really a shame

i mean it can be removed now if yall convince doshik since it wouldnt slow down ranks, only can improve them so

i vote remove it plss

it in fact makes me rq before even starting the map for no reason

100 %

The very first line as well

even if map is too hard for me, the next parts feel good but thats inneccesary

he insisted on keeping it and I doubt he'd change his mind

^

I cannot see how it would make anything better

first speed jump wouldn't be so tight and you could actually enjoy the map. Even after doing it so many times it's still a 50/50, it just feels like the map is actively trying to prevent me from playing

It would make the whole map a lot more enjoyable and its just a tiny change, i dont see a reason why you wouldnt change it

i didnt check the part but theres 3 experienced players/testers telling you it would improve your map and make it more enjoyable, in the end it's up to you but honestly you should trust them especially for such a tiny change

whats 50/50, the 1 tile freeze, or jump through freeze afterwards

the jump is just weird timing

ye the initial jump into that 1 tile edge is shit

jump aint that bad, the bad thing is the freeze

jump through freeze has a very tight timing

the very first jump I have no problem with, it's quite consistent

idk exactly what do u mean still, i have no problem with the hook marked in blue area so the 1 tile freeze, the problem I have is hook after through 7 tiles freeze, im like 50% failing this shit

if u talk about that 2nd one, i agree, but 1 tile freeze isnt the problem

yes I'm talking about this red jump

try to remove this tile and let me know if it's better

cause to me it was

removing that 1 tile indeed makes the hook more consistent, the problem is 1 tile wide space u have to make that hook, not the 1 tile freeze

so either way it makes it better

maybe make it 2 tiles wide and leave 1 tile freeze?

its not that big of a change

ye this works too

i absolutely understand that 1 wide tile space just looks and fits better the map but this hook is rly inconsistent and im glad im not the only one struggling with this one

this just in, it doesn't work, I constantly land on the platform on the right

and annoyingly you can't move the hook away

it req a little bit of redisign for sure, i juust sketched the rework, ye im aware of landing on platform

what about adding hook here aswell, so when u land on the platform on the right u can just hook down and are fine

and add unfreeze on top ofv

nah i think you dont need that

youre aiming right anyway

after the freeze

maybe just block above the platform so u always hit wall, its rly unlikealy to hit that 1x1 hole

since u adjust space after 1x1 tile, u can move the spawn 1 block left aswel to keep the same timin to not confuse ppl

timing on jump OFF platform to next unfreeze up is more tight since the block above, bbut still okey and fits the map anyway where moves are precise anyway

gg