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Yo wanted to create sth similar to the Bomb Raid maps

Bee's!!!! 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝 🐝

high details reminder!

are you available rn? its easier to show you some graphical things instead of posting them here because they dont give any insight in gameplay :p

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talked to mapper in game

• Changed startline
• changed colors a bit as suggested
• turned on details(hopefully right)
• fixed skips
• deleted most of the switched as vena suggested
• changed last part a bit
• changed some parts in general to improve flow/balancing

Hopefully i didnt forget something you suggested xd. dunno how to fix the freezing bulled thingy

Rotate it instead of mirroring.

lol ty i thought i did that from beginning^^

Happens. :D

this part feels pretty boring and uncreative

you could put the door on the rightside and it would look better

also having cp 11 here is kinda useless since most of the time you wont get to the dummy if u fail once

you could put tele 10 here and put 11 after the part

if you touch freeze you die here and its very easy to miss maybe make it unfaily or warn ppl

missing tiles for stoppers/arrows

Noticed some corners, to the freezecorner i would mention that if its there then it should be everywhere (like a rule for gaps)

This part here feels a bit tight for me but its something to experiment with the height

I think it could be a fast dummy map if some flow adjustments would be done and maybe also a less huge spawn. would be also nice to make the bees as kill tiles imo cuz im sure that they would be mad if anyone is going near their honey :p

Yo ty for testing. Ill fix the stuff you mentioned and maybe rework the Bullet part.

I tryed that but than the hook feels weird

mhm~1

should make these a diff color imo (its obvious but would look better)

very chill and fun map

• fixed the gameplay/graphicbugs you mentioned
• changed the bullet part as iku suggested
• added arrows for the tps knuski mentioned
• ill reduce map size when tester decide if its releasable or not

designbug

missed this door

the rest looks fine imo^^

but i didnt playtested it again yet

this looks cool imo, can u make it for all the other grass to block transition?

beside some laser barriers, the map looks awesome so far^^

also cool to have some music, the area of the soundfield could be a bit bigger though cuz soundvolume in reallife is logarithmic in spread

Talked in-game

Did you just mention are some problem to fix? or smth bigger. I was just wondering what you decided when talked in-game.

would be nice if you can do a changelog with the new version so we will know what was changed

Design is so hard. I need some more time⏳

Couldnt get the first part. Good map i liked the bees

mark somehow in design that this switch is timed pls

for me it was annoying to slowdown here because i have to save dj for next section, i would add hookable here for better flow

you can also adjust the switch timer of course

add "!" sign here? because u cant see shit here even with -2 zoom and cant spectate the part because its too long. i didnt have dj and failed here because didnt pay attention

its better to stick all teleports to the ground where u are doing part solo

this is ugly, maybe add generic on bottom to hide this hole under laser?

im not forcing u to change anything from this, but imo map would be better with these little fixes

nice map

and btw teamfinish is probably possible. you need to hammer up while flying up on jetpack, fall into unfreeze and hook ur dummy

Ty for testing. Ye ill try to fix that

• Fixed all mentioned Gameplay issues (hopefully xd)
• end shouldnt be skippable
• more signs as kicker mentioned
• changed bg color
• added birds(dunno if i keep them)
• deleted clouds

I dunno about the bg. Now it looks kinda empty. If you have any ideas what to add^^

ahhhhhhhj

Fixed

lil Designupdate. Think iam done now.

1 more designbug found sry

tiny but noticable

It looks strange...

solo teles on the ground

raise bottom line 1-2 blocks

nerf this move, too hard

u should add a cp in hte middle of this part

not sure how u intend this, but if u dont want dummy to hold double jump maybe take care of that

also tele 18 on ground

put turn off entities where u havee ! in design

otherwise nice map, i think its ready after fixes

Map channel has been moved to waiting mapper.

Where exactly here?

the middle 1 wide blocks

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• Fixed design bugs
• fixed the stuff mentioned
• reduced filesize

Wanna keep it they should do part how they want

Changed part a bit and made it easier imo

Can you explain whats wrong with it? for me it works perfectly

And can somebody explain when exactly i have to place tp 1 up? When several Tees can spawn on that tp? So i can put every solo tp for dummy and tee on ground?

Ok the danish goat found some more corners. Hopefully all

U need to place toteles up when there could fall more than one player into tele cuz the boost would be less when 2 players appear in the same totele

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Okay ty

Last corner Bug put more tp on ground

make tele that you have to teleport (comlete part ) different color then tele that you fail

when you fail you have to go manualy back

this ht looks darker

corner

its very easy to get too much speed for this last swing making the flow really bad

teddy bear or whatever on top right is cut off as well here 😵

tee

Arent the arrows enough? Or what do you mean

• design bugs texnonik mentioned
• changed ending to improve flow as iku suggested

I wanna keep it as it us ^^

Same color

Just change color for different tele ( well I think it would look better)

you online?

and yeah, change the tele color along with keeping the arrows

just make them slightly orange or smth

Ye but in bed already xd

np

Sth important to fix?

need turn off entities and ! sign somewhere in this part since its faily at end

nah not important

its just easier to give feedback ingame

Ye. Tomorrow^^

add another cp (cp 13) and put the tele closer to the solo part rather than all the way back at cp 12

Fixed the 2 issues. Inshallah no more corners

• made last part slightly easier to make the map more balanced
• added one more sign
• fixed one bug gg For God's sake hopefully everything is fine now

Made ending slightly shorter fixed a design bug

Map channel has been moved to waiting mapper.

waiting for a bit nicer design

This whole section can be done without using jetpack, which ruins the whole idea of the map imo

I also have a problem with the end section, you can take too much speed to the point that it's actually slowing you down and it makes you feel punished for doing the part right, you could try to work with more height and having more vertical obstacles to force the player to dodge it, making it less of a highway so you don't end up having too much speed

Beside that everything felt pretty balanced and fun to play 👍

And also you can cheat the bonus part after the end :(

Well its easier with jp but ill fix it

I think iam okay with a lot of speed i just lower the finnish so you can fly in full speed

Got a status in this? I'd personally consider it ready if you fix(ed) nehrs suggestions

Wanna improve design and ye fix nehrs problems. But didnt find motivation yet. Ig this weekend maybe

Okay gimme another week xd bad mood atm

Don`t have any time to play or map, RL is hitting. Decline. Maybe i resubmit sometime. 😦

From what I see and think your map is probably close to being releasable. Would you be willing to let testers apply small changes instead of declining?

Sure. I just dont have the head for it rn nor in the near future. You can add or change things and add yourself as mapper.

Testers on their way to all place a block and make a big collab: 🐴

"Momo" by Tọm, Arrow, Knuski, Nehr, Pipou, Freezy, I.K.U, catseyenebulous, meloƞ

• Fixed tp 7 so you need jetpack at times
• Fixed optional part cheat
• Didn't change the last part as I didn't get slowed down (if it happened to someone please say so and a demo would help

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accidentally uploaded a wrong demo:

Moved channel back to TESTING.

nice map, didnt find any major issues

Kicker when learn new way

Thank you a lot. Only issue i see with with the bonus part is that your stuck in the stoppers even if your not freezed? Maybe put a freezeline inbetween

There is freeze inside of the stoppers or what do you mean?

momomomo

nvm i tested it its all good. I thought you can get into stoppers while not freezed, so getting stuck there

• Made the 10 Seconds bigger, was recommend by a tester some time ago
• fixed 1 graphic bug

i replayed map one more time looks good to me.

i trust

design could be a bit more polished but it's alright 😅

Optimized:

Hot

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I found a silly bug while playing through a last time xd. Idk if its important we can fix that after rls ig?

Just send the fixed version in here and snail will update when someone calls him

i call upon thee mighty

Optimized:

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your map has just been released, and you now have a 2-week grace period to identify and resolve any unnoticed bugs or skips. After these two weeks, only design and quality of life (QoL) fixes will be allowed, provided they don't impact the leaderboard rankings. Be aware that significant gameplay changes may impact and lead to the removal of ranks. Good luck with your map!

momomo

back tele here when

don't fail when

argh

the startline is in high detail - is that intended? XD

I agree this wastes so much time 💩 Otherwise very cool map

Iam not at home rn i dunno

it gives me 0.8 less FPS

pls momo 2

a bit hard for 2 star or i might just be bad

if you learn jp a bit it should be ez despite 1 or 2 drag parts

I also noticed some spots with entities off are useless, other spots it's missing

u have jetpack there, it takes like 2 seconds max to get bacak

If you are talking about this then its still massive compared to how quickly everything goes everywhere else

i just find it unnecessary to need a back tele everywhere

you can compare how long it takes to get back between the part in question and just some random part

Mapper's choice. I thought about adding it but taking into consideration that there is no cp nor spawn set I decided against it. Looks like the mapper didn't want to add it and it compares to waiting for unfreeze once time-wise at worst. While I can understand the issue with it, I think one should respect the mappers decisions as long as it stays minor.

Ye it was 50 50 for me but i didnt feel it on that part and was happy that freezy fixed it. Hope you enjoyed map despite that xd

erm ackshually if u hit the freeze there then you take 3s to get back which is even longer 🤓

requiring back teles isn't a rule so its mappers choice at the end of the day

yeah, but imo it would be nicer with

is good map (if you dont fail)

You are wrong

If u miss right side u have to go every time all the way back, gives a little bit old-school feeling

xd

Its beginning Kill and retry :D

True but the issue could've been fixed with just 1 speeder

that can be fixed since it hasnt been 2 weeks yet

I had the same fail, normally mappers have to prevent such fails

It feels also a bit like old-school mapping, like the other part with missing back tele

Will Post all missing stuff if I play it fully one day

and thats a bad thing or ?

so many "modern" maps nowadays, just feels so monotonous sometimes

If the mapper wants to, sure

I mean there is an arrow i guess

If you want to participate in map testing you can just search for stuff here and share your opinion with others in the testing phase of the maps. It seems like you don't understand how testing works, because you complain a lot after the releases, instead of working fixes before.

welf you don't understand, telling people what to fix would be teaching, you just tell em what they do is wrong and let em figure it out themselves, much more efficient!

Have no time for it rn, shouldn't I post it when I play the maps ?

It's not rly bad but can be mapped better ? 😁

Yes but imo it has nothing to do with it

It would need a foreman who keeps an eye on everything his people do, B4 evaluate

I asked long time ago if I should do it with jao, but sadly he didn't want

You can do that, but keep in mind that it causes more work for the staff to check the fixes and to change the uploaded map. So maybe focus on very important issues, that are worth the effort.

It's different from ppl to ppl what are the important things

For me it's all gameplay relevant things, cheats and big design bugs

For example the first part with edge fail, ik it's at the beginning but it happen rly quick and it's simple to rework

• it looks cheatable by just swing the dummy ->

Giving feedback after release is perfectly fine but saying that the mapping is similar to oldschool because of missing failsafes is weird

I couldn’t care less whether there’s an arrow or not but how do you even manage to have your dummy land there if not on purpose?

Trying to go up with jetpack for too long I suppose

i did it twice not on purpose

Imagine telling Coke - "It seems like you dont understand how testing works" boy's tripping haha

This happend to me tbh

maybe i forgot 🤷‍♂️

Some Notes from my side:

• Yes maybe Coke and the others are right and i add 1 speeder->(but than i need to change part because you can swing the dummy on edge), still its first part not a big issue imo
• Yes i could and should add tp maybe. Otherwise its on ONE part, 2 sec if you fail(TikTokGeneration). But yes easy to prevent sorry if ppl are annoyed
• it feels more like 3 Star. It has similar finnishes and playtime as Get2Carry(3 Stars), parts are Aim+Jetpack, also some faily parts.

Your a good mapper and (former) tester, but the map was like 4 month in testing( i think i even saw you on testingserver), i don't like this maptesting after release thingy and i saw it on different testchannels

Nobody beside stormphönix had a real serious test from me in the last months

Real serious test is different than random joining when u playing the game

In the case that you don't do serious tests, can you at least give real serious feedback in the testing channels? The way you are doing it, is ineffective.

i could exactly write what is ineffective about the whole testing and about you but nah 😄

where is the mapping/testing fun if i write a whole script how to map or how to test

as i said, if i play a map and i see its still in evaluated maps i write the missing things

i played about the half, its ok besides the entities off signs, all of the signs should be moved to spots where its needed. 2 times i go fast and just die bcs there was a faily part coming 😄

You seem to have a problem with your ego, i hope you will find a way to solve that issue 🙏

I like the hard facts

I wish you had some hard facts to share

And I don't want to have anything more to do with you

: Says stuff is bad : gets asked what exactly : doesn't evaluate further

--: me gusta hard facts

Enough off-topic,

if you're not home/ don't have time for it right now we may have to plan it a bit, given the 2 week window will run out soon and some things like the faily edge (while a minor thing imo) are things that are somewhat gameplay relevant

Entity signs and the Startline being high detail or misplaced can be fixed after a year or two as well tbh

I would just change entity signs and startline

What would be the change to the start line? The two weeks are almost over.

High detail as melon said

Alright, so no changes that would be affected by the 2 week rule?

Na the edge is first part and the tp would be unfair/ idc about it

But if testers say its better to fix both u can do it

I don't really mind.

Should a gameplay change that lets you reset a part faster be considered in this case? It doesnt make a flawless run any faster

But u can cheat with that speedup

Just a swing >

I would set the tele more up, there are many better ways

played the whole map now, didnt find anything els besides the things i already said

i missed speedjetpackdummyfly 😄