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Koule 30 🗣️

i want 🙌

its been 2 months alredy i didnt even notice

Cool map. Ill do some more tests later, this is what i found for now

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Add shields so that it is not possible to back up to the start with a rocket

you should add splash particles at the bottom of the waterfall and actually make the waves move

Where?

i dont see problem in 4.

everywhere like this

ahhh

i go try

like this?

eh its fine i guess

maybe a faster spin

it needs to be chaotic

make some spin the other way

and i guess you can add a little shaking too and then delay it on each one with TO

Can you see it?

not what i meant

hmmmmmmm

fix skips

WTF

+200 kb

i cant get obs to work, have this screenshot of an envelope instead

i meant this kind of shaking

that cloud texture is 140kb

uh

i guess i can show it to you like this

hmmmmmm

i go try after

thanks !

Would it be for me to do something similar or the same? Because I wouldn't be able to do that in the cloud

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just vaguely remake the graph

from what it looks like youre not using x and y anyway

but when I increase the middle one, it doesn't go up to the beginning 😭

you can work around that

Optimized version:

Grr

uh

ye, what i was thinking

maybe make it transparent too

ts

looks much more like foam like that

i think is possible to envelope alpha channel??? if yes u can make it change alpha so is like its splashing differently

put bubbles here too btw

flowing up

it was a bit confusing first time

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design bug

fix design bug

I don't really like this part, it's out of place in the overall flow of the map and feels weird if you haven't pulled off those hits for the novice map. It's a completely outdated technique imo

A strange part for novice map imo + you can skip the hook to the tee

a part of the map that stands out from the map flow, boring and quite difficult for novice

A boring solo part

You only need a grenade for 2 parts, and not the main ones, but you can complete the main parts without a grenade, which is strange

design bug and an unnecessary stopper

the only door on the map, and I think without it the part will be the same

The physics of water are very strange, it feels like you're on the moon, not in water

Honestly, the water looks unnecessary to me on this map, but if you want to work with it further, you can look at examples of how it's done on other maps, for example, Open Lane is also a novice +- it was released recently

Overall, I liked the first half of the map much more than the second. If work on the second half, the map will be a good , I think

$waiting

Damn

i told that one, ig he just removed design xd

But, but I liked the parts

Well then don't remove them and develop the idea

I made some pretty big changes to the indicated parts.

This was one of the parts I couldn't figure out how to make it flow better, since I liked it as it was and would have to modify it a lot to make drastic changes, so I'm open to suggestions on how to improve it.

I didn't see much of a problem here, but I made a small change to avoid skipping, but it's a part that forces the player to think about what to do.

I added a little gores, I couldn't think of anything too big to change here, but I enlarged the solo part. Maybe if you want me to think of something more creative I can try to do that.

it was expanded and improved

the grenade was added on the solo part, along with some changes that improved the use of it

We added water to create a different dynamic from the first map. Also, novice players seem to enjoy water maps. Regarding the physics, I'm not sure about the best values yet; if you check the existing water maps in the game, there’s a lot of variety, so idk what to use for this one.

precise jump to skip some upper part

different part, same mechanism

only 1 totele is enough for solo part

design bug at the bg

precise jump to skip grenade launch

corner bugs

add unfreeze here

drowning even bubbles exist

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? its proposital

i think

Could you record it and send it here? I'm having trouble doing it.

yeah, the player can jump both sides

i tried it too, same trouble

i changed all requested things

• i made a new part on the first one

move this totele right, it is too close to fall pit

delete this block to make it easier

this water is annoying for conducting part

the concept that water acrossing all the map is awesome, but you need to make them more comfortable while playing

still not fixed

corner bugs

I didn't understand...

Fixs things

Why u dont have tester role? :0

There can only be 2 maps per person in the test

Mention:

But the map isn't mine, it belongs to YoDa. He put my name on it because I made the first one with him

If it's not your map, you shouldn't be listed as its creator

So, take my name off. When I took my name off, YoDa asked me to put it back on because he thought it was unfair to remove my name since I helped him make The Forest 1 (and tested The Forest 2 with him, but not the map itself)

So you have 3 maps, and each person can only have 2 maps in the test

Okay, so I'll remove my name and YoDa will remove my name from the logo, then you can put the map back :p

okay

can skip solo part by going like this

only 1 totele for solo part

the bubbles going upward but the tee is sinking down. delete bubbles or rework tunes so that the tune works what it looks like

unfreeze is not indicated

entity bug

idk the necessity of stopper, it actually works without it

suggestion to arrange tele number as the part progresses(because it looks more organized)

• i change all details
• arranged tele

i think its better to leave like this bcs novice players can kill themselves if the hook time goes wrong

where the bubble goes

it seems like a useless stopper

i dont think it will be a problem but mini skip

The bubbles move to the right and the animation is the same fade in and fade out

hey, pretty good ordinary novice, just few things you should fix before i call it ready

1. Overall through the map the bubbles signified that water pull you, here it's regular water but bubbles persist
2. This part might be frustrating for new players
3. Some hookables here would help with flow and so few players could shoot at the same time
4. Fail scenario
5. Unfreeze color blends in with sun a lot, might try to play around with colors
6. Add a few groups for background and play around with para values, e.g. 0, 1, 2 as shown on screenshot
7. Not a fan of the color for water right now, maybe color like 3FB4FFE6 would work better? Optional, but i suggest to try play around with it
8. Lower opacity of this hourglass thing inside start line to fit

What you think? xD

Looks good!

$decline

have 3 maps rn on test

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1203008423726157845/1497947358351327262

damn

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1497663881009430740/1497955014709084341

This should be useful for you.

Bro why? Is that a community of snitches now? 🙏

He doesn't like happy people 😭

• i changed all requested parts

i changed all requested parts

.-.

bad bot

Sowwy :c

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design bug in the bg

block in the water

also, left unhooks are not marked

I think it would be better if you replace unfreeze behind unhookables with corners

Looks like missing balken

Here

Why is there an unfreeze

Delete unused envelopes

Unmarked stopper

Grass tile in unhookable

Mark HD

some tiles have water inside some not. For me blocks with water are better

arrows not on the middle

Why finish and start have different pattern?

maybe a bit more alfa on middle ground would be better . same with point 7 [https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/1481452584526155927/1497894226699096146]

Add some unhook tiles here, because you can do this part without rocket

This space inside block near water really noticeable

You can pull tee in this side too ( not really a skip but let you know ). Also it's uncomfortable to jump in the another side, maybe it would be better to delete some freeze tiles here

Why they are different?

All feedback above

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uhhhh

I don't see any change between the two images

mb i send two same images

140 - before 200 - after

also make water more sky blue, I think it would better too

37B6FFFF - try this one or find another one

ahh

all changes made

Changes vs previous version

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move to testing pls

Hello, i had a test with a ghost and now i want to report some feedback. First of all i want to mention that in its current state the map is quite unbalanced. A few parts require some mechanics but there are also many slow/simple parts that don't match the tougher moves. I recommend to balance it by nerfing the harder parts. Screens:

The inconsistent use of the water really bothers me.

1. Why does it make you kind of float when it looks more like a waterfall?
2. This one is cool! Need more of those.
3. Some of these enclosed water spaces just look out of place.
4. Something similar to

would look nice here.

5. I'd remove the water here, it's the only time you actively use it in a part and it doesn't make much sense design wise.
6. Randomly stopping water.

Stay hydrated.

Thanks for the feedback! I'm working on adding it to the map, but there are a few things I disagree with. I think some of the parts you mentioned that would make the gameplay easier should stay because I want there to be some difficulty to make the map more interesting and have different mechanics. At least when I make maps, I like to think that new players should have a foundation (a lot of recent novice maps are pretty simple), and I see this map as medium-high difficulty for the novice category. That's why I think some challenging parts need to exist. I can change them a bit, but I like how they're organized right now.

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Would this work?

Meh not really, the water is going from the front to behind the background. :/

I honestly don't know what to do. Do you want, maybe, a portal that teleports the water to another place? 😭

Just remove the water?

You - me

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/295908390956433410/1448711768867213462/tee2_1.gif

ok

I changed some of the requested things, but not all of them. If there is something that really needs to be changed, let me know and I'll try to think of a good way to fix that part. I didn't change everything because, in my opinion, the map needs to have some difficult parts for a novice level.

tem q corrigi issadaq oh

Fixed

My point was that the map is unbalanced, can you explain me the reason for keeping things like that?

design things ( might be something with bones as well, i'll check for them later )

gameplay ( small update of previous )

one of the mappers deleted their discord account

what testing does to a mf

F Nixus