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Time cps added

https://tenor.com/view/azazel-plushie-the-binding-of-isaac-dance-dancing-gif-13948558879138846056

cool

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/342454474117218334/1458938292396495072/ezgif-11e099603f58fb79.gif

unmarked tiles

fix

fiox

• Corners I increased the brightness of the kill

this map is not 800kb

• the background breaks when zoomed out

I don't know how to fix it xd

make quad bigger

but the background will also wriggle

i would understand if the background broke at like zoom 0 but it breaks at zoom 3

A

xd

The zoom only breaks at 0 now.

I thought you were saying it broke starting from 0. Actually, I didn't even know zoom had numbering.

gg 100% legit frist fin

🗣️

fixs Skips

some corners fix

unmarked kills

Nixus map

new background + logo because I was bored af

i hate make bg

i lov make bg :catburger:

balls of steel

that looks crazy good

me too i suck at that

just look at the bg of bloom

its a mountain

lol

if you take this bg it will be good to change color palette of your tiles to more pinky

ty!

yeah Nixus has done that already

Range down

maybe 1 less freeze, cuz the time of unfreeze is just slowing down here

fix skip

WTF

2600

unfreeze somewhere here maybe

setup is kinda tight here

u also can make this part like that, ig u can save it as it is cuz it's harder but saves time

also a bit uncomfortable to make it through this exact deep if u lost dj, maybe make it less, idrk

u can also skip hammer here

this kill looks unnecessary imo

can u please also show how this area done? I was throwing dummy there, but it's very unpleasant way imo and surely not the right one i think

maybe unfreeze here also

liked the map overall, sometimes just felt punishable for no reason

cool ideas but don't really like 1 try parts ngl, this type of maps not very suitable for my mindset

and fix 2.6mb please, ig u can delete a few viruses from the .map file so it's gonna weight less

oh lol, ain't even thought about such easy way

and also I still can skip it the way I previously showed after fixes

i dont see

Please tag me in the message, I looked for it and couldn't find it.

oh ok, u just uploaded version with "fixed skip" mark and i thought it was it :D

this one

ahh

I have corrected everything, but I will adjust the size before sending it.

2.6mb

fixs i try optimize

2.11mb

optimize for me pls 😭

$opimize for me pls

This command was not found.

bad bot

:C

Patiga tool in DDNet bot its cool idea

you mean that optimization one

seems like only tester can use it

Not that one, but it's a cool idea too.

https://twmap.patiga.eu/ free for everyone

I have used it

it's not a magic tool then as I thought, u have large images in ur map, unreasonable big

like bgs, vignette

and something else, can't remember

how optimize this?

I use this site https://www.iloveimg.com/resize-image#resize-options,percentage , u can play with settings, try 50%, 75% etc. until it looks good & under 1mb or ~1mb, it's pretty much max and even more size for this design

Optimize Mapres

and im pretty sure sun_blazulite is also very big, everything else worked perfect!

pretty decent map

I increased the depth a little to make it easier to throw.

I added unfreeze and then a wall so I could put the dummy in.

Fix Corners

are you sure the second image is correct? it seems you don't need your dummy at all

But if you don't pass your dummy, you'll need it anyway.

previously you have to either slide off your dummy or sit on it, and is not needed anymore. I think you can keep that

Well, I put the freeze underneath and then the unfreeze. It can't be skipped because you use a double jump, but if you get an edge kill, you could do it. However, I think it would increase your time.

fix corners Testers, if you think the map is too punitive, please send me the parts that are like that.

yeah, 1st video - rework made structure look worser there and the skip possibility still there, and 2nd - skip is should be closed at all, it cuts half of the map even it's being hard to do

also ngl stopper made nothing for qol here

skip is possible without stopper also

setup here is just not great and kinda random imo

close it

some messy structure here idk if intended or whatever, just mention

unmarked deep

(with strong btw) sometimes u can't pull out of edge him at all, or not enough to reach the hook so u have to do extra manipulations, and jump itself feels weird

corner

Well, I was thinking about just killing them on the wall, but your suggestion is good too 😄 (in 1st)

gonna put in waiting even tho i know u gonna upload fixes in 5 minutes

Fix parts and skips

bad bot

Sowwy :c

close the wall entirely

it's teamrank skip

how? 🤔

i put kill

🐈

corners fix background

badbot

bad bot

:(

Optimized

520kb now 😄

-400

kb

I removed the platform from the second part to force an edge, making it more difficult I added a Refill jump for better flow in the first parts

entities error

Optimized version:

i think the turn off entities need go down

u can skip timecp 4

remove the freeze

why

😠

bc dont have freeze in all other spikes withour freeze near

I think in a speedrun he'll definitely get past cp 4

but if im not speedruning and i want do the jump

But cp is literally for you to see how much you've improved in the run, why would you skip it? 😐

fix some things

I'll play this map again later, so there will probably be changes

bc u dont want jump near deep idk but can skip timecp xdxd

1. Replace unhook with stopper for better hook and re-hook
2. deleted some blocks
3. I added a platform for better accessibility to the next part.

^

unmarked death tile

or cheat idk

serious skip decline? 😭

Unhook & Death Marks

If you jump from the ground with 100%

Or maybe I misunderstood this part somehow

OK, I played two parts and it feels like a decline.

1) spacing is tight for no reason. 2) The parts work very crunky.

for example this setup is weird, looks like not supposed like this.

But have you at least tested the entire map?

its like food why i need eat all if i dont like?

But if you're starving, you'll have to eat everything.

Sorry, but there are a lot of maps that are closer to release.

Really, but you could help by pointing out what's wrong instead of just complaining about the first two parts.

1 works bad/need too much precise 2 tee sometimes overfly hammer 3 tight

yes i can, and i rn droped some feed back more.

Or I could just improve the last two parts and ignore everything else.

what u mean by last two parts?

u about parts where i give feedback?

Yes All parts

I don't have a taser so I don't know about that.If you could tell me which skips I can just remove, what do you think?

most of this skip also possible without tas.

only in game i can give some feedback.

Yes, but I'm asking you to tell me all the skips you find.

go?

not now, tomorrow dm me.

👍

TAS showed it, no?

only what is in the video, which I will fix

But do you think it would be possible to fix everything, or would it be easier to decline? 🤔

You are a mapper, you must decide for yourself

I prefer a professional to decide that for me because even if I fix it, it might look bad the way I did it, but I'll check it out later

I only arranged what they mentioned, for now.

But when I join one time to your local server I remember you have maps called krx test or any similar

I made a map full of random kills/freezes to test their TAS, but the TAS is terrible

ok i will play more than 2 parts to decide it, if u wanna u can join to me in 5-10 min

We'll go after 1:00 PM.

its alredy 13 47 for me u mean in 13 min?

1 PM in Brazil

so i played map until this point and say its not bad like i though, seems like i picked worse two parts on the map on first run. i dont think its decline any more but map still need polish a lot of stuff. most of them its spacing issue, next its do parts less confusing . i will explain detail when will have time

When we test it together, you'll be able to give more complete feedback!

I find this setup strange

I don't like this hammer into the ground and the subsequent hook, it's too uncomfortable

I find it unpleasant that it's hard to reach the unfreeze here and you have to waste a jump, which disrupts the tempo a bit

inconvenient setup for part

I find this jump weird

this part is too tight

Is it good that you can hook like that here?

Is this really necessary for anything? I just skip it without even touching this part

This hook is very inconvenient

This part seems strange to me, I especially don't like that you have to hold the hook to avoid flying into the first wall

A bit of a nasty setup with 2 jumps on the ceiling

an unpleasant jump for me

Overall, the map is very good, the ideas on it are very interesting, I liked it🔥👍

xDD

Design bug

Maybe the hammer in the ground is a skip

skip xd

You can throw dummy here and you won't need to make a part

skip

don't need the first jump

Yes, I already understood, but it’s still not very convenient there and the flow is interrupted, but I think it’s insignificant

holy shit

why?

Well, basically it's because when you're supposed to fall, you should also let go of the hook, but most people usually hold the hook until the end, and that creates an unpleasant impression

hm

I don't know what to do, I did this🥺

I think if I make more space for the hook, it should become +- comfortable

Should you leave more space above or below?

Above

Like this? 😭

maybe something like this

ye

ok

what you think:

I don't quite understand what exactly I should think about this

ok yes. :3

ahhh

i am genius

proposital, to no skip 😭

If you want to do it without a skip, you can extend the part so that the speed you get from the tee is really needed

changes

good boy

design bug

design bug?

Yes

design bug

maybe

idk :D

Yes

Check all the corners there are a lot of them here

Ok 😡

There are a lot of bugs in these areas

design bug :D

kill tile

bro u need have your own position on your parts on the map and defend it. don't need to change everything that random ppl says)

Ok 🫡

No

ok ...

HAHA

i mean this 2 moments was good imho, bck u need a little bit use ur brain to do it, and now after fix what markus said it just novice brainless swing right and brainless jump left xdd

Sorry, and this is my first time disagreeing

With what?

I agree with the first screenshot, since the pillar only served to get the kill up there; the other one, I don't know, the part with the speed looks better.

Yes

oh miss screnshoot. i mean this jump was interesting

and not hard if u hook dummy in jump

now it just jump left and it sad

imho u needed just fix some skips what flaundie and markus said , design bugs and some parts little bit, but u change all what they said and now it looks like lose personality. i really like map when playtest it now after fix i dont like map. but mb trieal testers like markus better knows what need for good map))

another change was +-good mb only this 1 was to tight but mb u need just move right wall right to 1 block, but u delete wall at all and now it part 2easy for this map

Yes, it's true, because we don't know mapper true intention and how he sees his map, all I wrote is my personal opinion and he decides whether to listen to it or not🥸

These blocks with 3 holes are kind of difficult to fix. 4º prin

ok

only wait

fix designs

bro

?

nothing 😠

When fix this part?

xDD

dont fix this 2 moments he is cringe

2 useless skips hard then parts

I'm going to make a 6-star part and it's all going to be his fault.

uh

Fixs

play it again after all fix and can say map is good. dont check any design bags but if desing is fine hope testers will release it.

Design bug

possible skip again

design bug

I don't like this kill, it makes it very hard to throw on platform, it's better to remove it

Make the unfreeze bigger because you can fly over it

Why is there a freeze in the blocks here in some places, but not in others?

In general, these blocks have design bugs all over the map, I won't be posting just them anymore

I'm not sure there should be a freeze corner here, but still

design bug

I'm not sure about the last one, but it's most likely a design bug

Okay, I'll stop so as not to clutter the chat with design bugs, so be it

send me to dm

okay

I don't know how to fix those blocks with holes in the middle xd

delete them💀💀

hmm

its solution

BRO

AGAIN NO

😭

skip?

ah ok

what? again

yes skiop

FIX EVERY DESIGN ERROR

+180 kb💀💀💀

i not used patiga

wait

hmm

&optimize

$optimize

thanks bot

only design stuff

deleted super hiper mega skip

Are you sure?

https://klipy.com/gifs/invincible-invincible-are-you-sure

entities error 🗣️

sure?

its your pc i think

no

the deep

is one block more down

no the air part

the deep see

its your pc

bro my pc added other deep tile sure bro

see the image ;-;

What are you talking about? The red or cyan line?

;-;

AH

;-;

forgot to make the watermark asset

imma make it in a bit

once i go to the PC

ig it can also be recycled for Azazel

i mean

sono

Watermark asset + placement reference

also idk if you wanted me to but I improved the logo a bit

wasn't convinced by the old one

old logo for ref

i ask again are you sure?

Couldn't you use the logo font for the watermark? I think it would look nicer.

?

wha

ignore

ima try

like this?

trollentities

y si le bajas un poco la transparencia

para que quede como los bloques

del fondo

wdym?

well the idea is to make the watermark stand out from the tiles

perfect

lik this

pq queda medio rar si esta full visible

I don't get what you mean

you mean lowering the opacity of the text?

to make it semitransparent?

ye

so something like this?

because this doesn't work over the tile

or in the block

oh

no

really?

it ruins readability

I will leave it in this place

yeah fair

like in

?

yep

thanks

watermark

watermark again

This refill jump has only been used once on the map, so it's better to use the edge instead

add more unfreeze here because it's easy to fly over

still not fixed

still not fixed

and this(Honestly, I don't like this kill, it makes the part more uncomfortable and doesn't solve the problem)

design bugs

i thinkkk

design bug 🗣️

Add all the decorations in HD, fix the minor flaws described above, and I think the map will be ready

Just put the hookah underneath and go to the side.

So this kill is not needed for anything except to limit people in the method of passing, and it is better to remove it

But why would you make a bid instead of just throwing a single hook?

I'm very sorry, but I didn't understand what you said

The kill command is really meant to limit the part, because the idea is that you only hook the attack and move to the right. Why do something different?

Because this setup is pretty weird and non-obvious, and for example, I just threw my dummy, and it flew into a kill And the kill is needed not only to limit, but also to make the part fail, and I don't see the need for either of those on this part It's just that people who don't realize there's a setup here will get angry throwing dummy into kill, and if you remove the kill, nothing will change, but no one will complain

ok you win

ez 10 0

😭

logo need HD?

no

hm

change log?

entities bugs

i don't want 😠

Fixeds kills Fixeds Error designs

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1459225871884746765/1486015858193989722 https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1459225871884746765/1486015582347333654 https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1459225871884746765/1485022995956367380 not changed in any way(the second one, well, it's okay not to change it)

I hadn't seen it. Sorry.

The map is really good👍

I couldn't find any more design bugs, I also have some doubts about the 3 star difficulty because of my little experience playing dummy maps, but the map itself is already ready as for me

Play the "Mbappe" map; if you finish it and find it harder than this one, then it's 3 stars. If you finish it and find it easier, then it's 4 stars.

Oh yeah, I know Mbappe, he's a cool footballer👍

no the map 😭

ahhh okay okay

Well, I watched the mbappe walkthrough, and it's definitely harder than this map, so okay, 3 stars

intended?

uh

no

Solution

fix skip

in kill edge 😄

stoppers can be replaced

not enough space for no reason

not have hooktrough in map

part from barren

special tiles should be replaced with classic tiles if there is no point in special tiles.

Can you send a screenshot of the entire section?

wdym

It's tight, it's worth making more space (the ceiling is higher, etc.)

I think that stopper could stay in place to make it easier to attach, so you don't have to keep putting it under the hook-through and can just go straight through.

stopper is for back

design bug

add freeze/deep inside the ht(everywhere)

I don't like how this part has changed, now it's unnecessarily difficult and has no setup

It's not my fault that the old part looked like Barren, I've already finished the map, it's difficult to make a new part.

Well, I personally don't see a big problem with the fact that this part is similar to part from Barren. It's just a coincidence and it wasn't intentional. I think it can be returned to how it was

After all, there are already 2000+ maps, it's hard to come up with something unique

Ok

Thanks my love

What do you think of the new part?

I think it's normal

what you think?

As for me, it's easy to come up with something new than leaving a 1-in-1 setup like on another map.

You lost, 2x1 sorry

for me this part fine too, not that hard if do good set up for it

Ok

Ready pls 😭

idk but for me first part are stil have issue.

That looks like a missed hook, not mappers fault lol

? what ;-;

im not about end im about start.

iknow it

u did wrong fixes

istead of fixing up way u need rework down way

one way of fixing its no give access to hook dummy form up, or no place for dummy. By this, you try to fix the symptoms.

It's like mopping up water leaking from the tap instead of replacing the washer.

Kills 🤔

its better than ur fix but i think not the top5

ok

Only wait

looks wayyy better

Fix part

i tested first part and say its tight

This fix is not necessary, but I'll still make a note of it. those loops feel like they break flow a bit

Could I remove that freeze so the tee goes faster

dont think its really help.

ok

or will cus u dont need stop and hook ground, ye its better to remove

More late I go to search design errors🗣️🗣️

Design bug

Good dummy map I guess, I didn't look anything from other guys, just clear test, but few things I wanna write. First of all the start: draggin the dummy from pos 1 is kinda ez and there's no idea at all, also there's an edge for no ris(why would I update my jump if I can do anything without it?) and 2 ways to do the part (U can drag dummy to the top and throw him on the plat and get it with u, so u can let him fall lower(I tested it both ways for few times and I cannot say that any of them is waaay harder and why it's even exist) Second screen also has 2 ways of setup (throw a dummy up and run to rehook it , or u just hammer him left on swing and rehook and I don't know which of the ways is suggested by the mapper, both r fine, but throw is kinda weirdo ok xd) Third screen is just a copy of first part and I didn't really get why it's even added. Also I'd really like to see a kill tile in this place to rest and somehow to do the way I draw like the only intended one, cuz it's kinda good for the map and I don't like the idea that someone can hold the dummy on the block and throw him after or just drag him down without doing this nice swing. The part on sh4 I don't really enjoy and also didn't really get the purpose way. I didn't really test it so long, but I didn't get why there's even a thing to hook (? sign) I just throw him up and went right to the down hook and it was working way better so I didn't really get why it's even exist. Sh5 is kinda weirdo also, I was bumping the prple blcok with my head all of the time if I tried to hold a on any boost (well I did less than 15 tries ofc but still xd), with a slight slowdown its working but am not sure if it's the intended way and it's also kinda scary cuz if u slowdown a lil more or in a bad timing it's gg

This part on sh6 I was playing for few mins and didn't really get how to drag a dummy up soI just went right with him and seems like it's working and not that faily so... idk XD Other things seems good for me, good work anyways

design bug time

shouldnt be filled i think

What's wrong with the freeze inside the blocks (considering that there's a frieze everywhere)

its inconsistent, sometimes there is and sometimes there isnt

also sometimes its freeze and sometimes its deep

dark red is weird

why

2 design bugs in a single corner and 1 in adjacent one

it keeps going

i actually didnt realise this was a design bug also

i didnt mention other invisible bugs but why is there 4 whole spikes in the blocks (i changed z order for the screenshots)

corner spikes look bad, either have the texture curve or fill surrounding tiles

it really should

It's better to take a screenshot of your entire screen and mark it than to take just a portion of it; I don't know where that is 😭

But what's the problem? xd

Fixed all problems

My opinion hasn't changed, the map is still very good and, in my opinion, deserves a release

this setup is just bad now imo

you just go straight to deep there

I mean yeah, you can control it manually but it's hard and not needed for this

overall if you try this a lot you'll get it but imo old setups was better

design bug

😔👍

old setup

maybe also make this deep unhookable

cuz this setup is not pleasant to do and easily can kill the dummy

the main issue for me is that u have to hook like a few pixels left then ur dummy is and spacing is just not giving you to do it easily

actually maybe a skill issue from me

I tried a few more setups and if you don't hesitate, it's quite easy to do

this one is might be skipped btw pretty easy

which is also might be ok

this setup is just a lot better now

this too is much smoothier than the previous one

It's a bit sad that you can't get tee where you need to right away even with strong and u have to hook him a bit from the right or edge

if u want to change something i said or not anyway, map is ready for me

cool map

I really enjoyed playing this dummy map (I'm not a big fan of the latest dummy maps; they're all a bit repetitive, even if they're unique in their own way, I still didn't really liked them), but this one is fun to play. My main issue was the "sloppy" gameplay and design, but overall, that seems to be the map's style.

ping me when u will decide about changes

I could do that, it's more comfortable for the throw.

idk if it feels good I don't mind at all

I think it's good

skip

And here you and dummy can both go to the right, but you will have to stand on the edge and edge kill, I think it will be faster than the default way

design bug

Please skip this part, it seems a bit difficult.

Hoe

How*

show how both skips are made?

And Thais?

I'll do it now

👍

Omg 😔

suggestion to delete freeze here so that the player can keep the speed (better flow)

fix entities :3

Fix entities

.

...

what

Why are there so many design bugs?

When you find everything, let me know so I can correct everything and send it to you, because if you only send one, I think there's only that one mistake.

Because you want me to fill in all the corners, thus having to do manual work, but when I change a part, I might forget some corners.

xd

f

ok no more design bug i think

thanks

designs fix

Optimized:

The map is good with fun gameplay

thanks

biggest lie ever

weird corner spikes

I was looking for design bugs that affect gameplay

bottom edge shouldnt be filled

differently weird corner spikes

also these are different spikes than the ones used throughout the map

tele not poking out

one of the holes is not filled + edge

uhhhh

i still dont undestand why the deep does that, if you want to keep it then ok

I don't see tele in any of the pictures.

I don't understand what kind of crazy person has so much free time ...

tele deep not poking out (maybe fine)

why the turn off entities??

nvm im blind

maybe have deep like on the second image

😭

idk i prefer 1º

bot optimize mapres?

NOOO MY READY 😭

1. I think you don't need this unfreeze anymore since you changed the part.
2. I still believe it would be much more comfortable to force an earlier dj to prevent the dummy from dropping down out of the corner making the edgehook much harder.
3. Why are you not using

instead of 1x1 blocks? They are the exact same and won't add any filesize to your map since they are external.

No, and that's usually not needed.

3. Because the tileset I used in the map is different, and also because the map will only use 1x1 blocks and not 2x2 or 3x3 blocks, I think it breaks the map's aesthetic, idk. I prefer just 1x1

changes

ok 👍

Edgehook feels way better. 👍

cool! The map is good now?

Optimized:

thanks

theres a design bug in the second image

affect gameplay?

no

hmmm

ah

I fixed that in the current version.

i think

this is now not optimized

That doesn't really matter, you don't have to cut down every single asset.

but what about people who have 1kb/s connection

The Patiga Tool doesn't show up in my Google search. And I'm too lazy to look for it...

Just wait a few more seconds.

Kinda ruins it for people that want to grab an asset from a map as well.

I'm not sure the door should look like this

This part seems unnecessarily difficult to me now, I often fly into kills

I guess it's a my skill issue, but this hit seems awkward to me. If I try to do it, the dummy flies higher than I am, and as a result, I can't hit. I don't know if this is bad, considering that you can easily back

and theoretically, I think you can get a teamrank on the map

How

1. There's enough space at spawn for a skip start, it seems
2. We go through the map as usual
3. A person enters the team at spawn, the person who skipped the start jumps on the button entering the team of the person at spawn
4. As a result, the button is deactivated, you can go through the map as usual, but at the finish line you have to go with dummy because the door will no longer be there

It's still theoretically possible to get out of the finish box, which could also help the skip

Omg

Ok

How?

Tee bump

how help in the skip?

idk ;-;

How do I fix it if the Patigatool...

Let's say two people put into a hole, a third one hits them, the person in the middle is killed, the person who hits him hooks the person who was thrown out by the hit, then the second group quickly puts into the hole so that the person who got out has someone to fly away with, basically something from the realm of fantasy, but theoretically possible

ah

how help

hm

😭

But with the speed of the bug, does the tee hit the wall? Because you can only get a kill on the wall.

Well, look, since the speed is so high that people fly past the start, they will 100% fly into the wall, it will be impossible to build a tower, and this skip helps here, people who fly out of the map can hit the wall and build a boat on the left