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Looks spooky

found this "old" map. i remember jao rejected it, cuz the start room is "too tiny" i still think it doesnt matter in a dummy map. but if testers want i can make another start room so ull get tele into part 1 (but it will break the flow of playing the map if u die multiple times at first part). also did some changes in parts

fixed some cheats

It definitely wasn't declined just because of the tiny start room xD rather because it's made really poorly and obnoxiously faily

$decline

it was the only reason jao told me. and looks like u dont have any better reason. what about u try to tell what u dont like/wait for other opinion?

I've said what the problems are, or will you act like you don't know what it means?

I would wait for some more comments and not just decline the map if it's not obvious that this map is bad

what about u send screens what u dont like, tell people what to change? only thing u do is saying "bad mapped, rejected" u dont spend any time in testing or tell people what they have to change. also u are not the only tester here. its not your job to decline maps randomly. its your job to tell people how they could improve stuff u dont like

He does spend time on maps he thinks are worth it, but yes it would be better to tell every mapper, cause they may come up with a much better map next time

newtestinglead

you've made better maps since this, you should know why this is badly made

but I can explain in more details if you really don't know

i know its not my best map but yes. wanne hear it

1) too faily (guess this one doesn't need explaining) 2) there's basically no structure 3) most parts are some random special tiles scattered around and you're supposed to guess what the part is (and then do it 1 try) that's just not good gameplay

you didnt even fix the startroom

ofc its decline again

"too faily" is not even a reason lol. every insane map is "too faily" also theres no random stuff. looks like u dont understand the parts if u rlly think theres anything random in it. doing everything first try is also not a good reason. parts arent that hard to be not first try parts. map is not even that hard as other maps rlsd so why its "too faily"

your reasons are rlly rlly bad at all

there is a limit to how faily maps should be and usually faily maps are supposed to be short and not too hard to understand

here you just see some stoppers and switches and stuff all over the place and have to do something with them 1 try

there's basically no way to finish this map without studying it and remembering all "parts" and then it's still very hard

thats so fucking bullshit wtf. only the first part is a little bit tricky. rest of map is obviously where u have to go and how to do it. if u are not able to understand theses parts after a few secs u couldnt test it since its obviously to hard for u

for people with enough skill to finish this one its obvious what to do in every part

this is just not clean gameplay

and this is not even a reason

just because you say so doesn't mean it's true

everyone disagree with u

so dont think u are right

i agree with ravie

show me the everyone

give other people a chance to test it maybe?

why would anyone test a declined map lol

and looks like maggi and genex dont agree with u

maggi didn't say anything about the map and genex didn't say anything relevant at all

show me one person who is a respectable mapper who thinks this is clean gameplay

also, other testers still look at declined maps and if they disagree they're free to reset

I say something relevant xd

the only relevant mapper in your eyes is yourself

now you're just making things up xd

if genex and maggi are not relevant mappers for u. who is?

Pulsar

now you're just twisting my words

look what maggi said

looks like hes not relevant for u. he said he would wait for other opinions and its not a instant declined

at no point did he say this map is good or that he disagrees with what I said, just to explain more and wait for opinions

whatever. whole communtiy agree with me you are the worst testing leader of all time. hopefully we will get a better one soon

alright, they're free to come and tell me this on their own

makes no sense to start a discussion with u. ill wait for ratings from other tester

Lol

you look from by your own perspective , but players who first time joins they didn't know anythink about this map . So they play it first time they see part differently then you see . I understand that after i maked long map , there was too much different stuff (ideas cool) but to do 1st try part was not possible even if you understand the part ... so didn't post it to don't waste other time. All parts was somethink new cool , but its all was hard to do very faily.

I would like to test your map but not right now.

I don't know will my new map released that i posted or not :( .If it will be declined i will be angry like you .

Imo the parts are fine and a good challenge for higher skilled players. They also aren't very complicated. It is easy too understand what to do and since big parts of the map use endless hook you can pause and take a look often. The edge hooks and the rocket fly don't fit well to the map, imo. Its a different kind of gameplay than the rest and especially the edge hooks could be unnecessarily faily. The last part looks very grindy, it could be reduced to half of its length without changing the gameplay. Design is nice, but hookable needs more contrast. I have no clue, why the start room should be made bigger. It's a hard dummy map, so everyone joins a team immediately anyway.

Maybe because sometimes novice players joins servers and don't know what to do

lmao starkiller malding

ye i remember this map , its very frustrating i don't get what to do , i have no clue what to do , if this would be released 98 players from 100 wouldn't play this map like me just because of start , don't even want to try other parts ...

as i said. people who dont understand what to do are not able to do the whole map. if u are skilled enough for the parts u will understand the map

the start is not possible to sightread

for novice players It’s supposed to be not readable, the map is for insane players

So I played through the map multiple times and I did not find it hard to figure out how to do the parts. I enjoyed playing the map and I think it has a great flow. There are many unique parts and for the failyness: I don't think this is too faily, as it is a rather short map and the parts are neither too hard, nor too random. I found one bug and have one suggestion. Suggestion: add more endless hook and put a speedup at the transition of stoppers and unhook

Bug:

do u mean the endless off with but? its to prevent cheats xd

bug*

and thx for testing guys. ill fix later

reset

u

no thanks

$reset ill wait for other opinions

ty coke

btw. i guess the rf could be as it is now. its just a little filler and makes no sense to try to put a part there or make it less faily or smth. its not that hard at all. about the edgehook i asked cor for it and he thinks its okay. maybe ill change it if other people also dislike it. same with the last part. ill wait for more opinions

its easier for ppl to test it if u upload a playthrough

ok this part is not good

idk dont rly feel like testing gameplay without playthru demo so ill wait

and what is this

why u dont like the part in first screen?

i think its dragged out for too long, it isnt really much action except "keep hooking up and hold a"

no offense but this is true not worth a release

like every other of his maps

th eonly thing i like in this map are the eyes in the bushes.

might steal that one day

xD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_onHVF6HuI&start=14s

thx to klex

(louis asked for it so i made a little playthrough)

good map

rls

This map feels like nether

It'll probably end up in the same way, not played

But i'm not against releasing those kind of maps

Even if without structure it's kind of a mess, it's still using a lot of different skills

And i'm not fan of those switch on this kind of 1st try map, at least the way you used it

It's also long, if it gets released it'll probably become the hardest dummy map

So it'll be important to check if it's not too hard compared to the other 5s maps (I think there's only Inj3 and miA)

And as it'll become the hardest dummy map, I think it needs a more strict testing

it's not that hard though, imo miA is harder

Mia is moderate with sgfly at end lol

This map very lq, starkiller can do much better

i cant even first part on mia

Because its a map for pros and not nobys

I was watching the playthrough, (I'm noob) and I wanted to say this part was too repetitive

this part too

and this one

Red=Bad Blue=Repetitive Green=Good Yellow=Meh

Half of map is literally the same faily repetitive nobrain drag and 1 shit switch part in beginning which u will never able to do before u test it hundred times

• this

$decline

thank god

Nobody has to suffer any longer