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time cps strike again

fun doesnt need though no?

stupid idiot bot doesnt care

bad bot

Sowwy :c

bad bot

Sowwy :c

GOOD BOT

I think it's too hard to be it on this map, I'd even say impossible, because two players are moving at roughly the same speed, and it's hard to get close I think if you give it a hook, the mode would be more interesting Also, the map itself is very tight, it's more of a battle for survival among narrow passages than a real tag I want the passages to be way wider

In my opinion, this room is more suitable for winners than for losers

Add hookable blocks here because the design hook goes nowhere

Overall, the idea is very interesting👍

These tune zones are not used, although they should be, as I understand it

As far as I understand it is not used (I couldn't get there)

You need to remove this from the server settings

Tested this with hook and without. For anybody who has played a decent amount of gores, it’s really not that hard to be it. 30 seconds is plenty of time. Same thing goes for the arena size. It’s actually very open all things considered. I will not change the arena, and will not add hook. This isn’t meant to be an “easy” game.

Only used if the timer runs out (runner wins by time)

okay

optimized, removed unused, added temporary time cps, added hook tiles behind start

re-optimized

In general, I thought, I would say that it would be better to add several maps for tag, so that people could choose the approximate difficulty at which they want to play, because while I was playing with, no one really liked the main map, but you, for example, like it, you can add 5 maps there of different widths and perhaps different structures, but this is just food for thought for you

A hot potato mod would be kinda cool ngl

Aware that bombtag exists

oh hey

this map

has much changed?

map seems more closed off than before

Basically started from scratch

gotcha, ill take a peek now

bro

• collision tiles should be replaced with player_collision tune to decrease chat spam
• tune_enter messages are gone?
• score counter is interesting, kinda works like old volleyball?

are switches 37/38 different spacing to do one first?

not sure how much the other facillitative rows are needed

i agree with this. i liked the old map i played while this was still a fresh idea you had, kinda more open. also probably bigger arenas to potentially allow FFA with multiple tees could be nice

i dont think with this you should worry too much about making sure only 2 tees enter, assuming u do the mech all non-interactive

it can/should scale with more (its tag anyway)

i also think if u have some mech hidden you may as well hide most of it, like these areas are not important to show all the time cus some of it is just spawning

may as well just only show the score, kinda like volley

It pivoted to a more gores-like setting. I’ll get some more feedback regarding the arena but I think it’s quite balanced for the pacing and risk/reward of the game.

Not quite sure what you mean. This was designed to be just 1v1

just played with someone

• frustrating in entities. with the collision spam i have to sometimes open chat to see if i still have hammer
• way too goreslike. i dont think we hit each other a single time, mostly just pressuring the other person to take a less favorable position and mess up solo gores moves

this is not great for non-gores players, which anyone playing a Fun map on DDNet is not likely to be

Well it was initially for gores fun category, but it seems like that might not be happening anymore

i felt like i was spending more time just trying to find the best spots to hide and hang out baiting their moves but just fucking up anyway because im trying to read them too much and then missing a hook

i guess that's a skill issue but i can see most games going like this honestly

score system seems good, timers seem good, a bit weird to be frozen and then dragged but i like the rows with the speeders

i think if arena + collision tiles + tune messages was all reworked this would be a good fit for ddnet but seems definitely like it was made for kog server

more arenas alleviates this but more work

if there was more swing potential here then you can get more situations where a drive-by hammer is possible. rn it just feels like out-goresing the other, so in situation where you would even be able to hammer you have to have even more precise moves than them rather than trying to get nice speeds or lines

and i think at least in ddnet we're more about swings and clean lines

the bottom feels good obviously because u can kinda swing there

but you just cant swing through here. not really possible cus the middle piece is only 2 high

you lose a lot of speed trying to fix your height

3x3 center is good though

Thanks for the feedback. Wasn’t sure how well it would translate, but it seems like maybe it’s a bit much for ddr. I’ll shelve it for now, don’t feel like completely revamping it. Maybe a separate version will come later

Map can be declined

its a great idea though, i just think if it had more ddrace-like movement it could catch on for people who like things like bomb tag and fastcap

race movement ig

Yeah I’ll probably make a different version with platforms and more ddr movement down the road

But not on this one

ye

here's like a super crappy meta analysis on the current arena after just one game xd

seems like these areas are just OP and if u play around these spots u can just bait them into solo gores fails

cus usually the person tagging will go top route from the L if u go over then u can go above 3x3 mid

and then you can just go back and forth since the top mid 2-tall thing is so wide.

bottom is not great, hard to get back up under pressure but the bottom corners are so open that there's a lot of room to just completely dodge the hammer

2-gap and 3-gap around the L to mid and 2x2 to verticals respectively feel like anti-seeker to me, and for the hider it sorta acts like cover because there's just quicker moves around the outside or staying mid

❤️

yo nice map PJF

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/655733485780074527/1464546913050169465/testers.webp

testing can be done by anyone

if you feel like a map should be released faster you should test yourself also if one map gets tested by someone it will in my experience get tested by others too

quality difference is very notable, pls put a higher resolution hammer

FJP left all teeworlds related servers, he won’t work on this anymore I guess

Everyone's leaving one by one

lol? why

i can ask him

Nobody knows

When?