#shotgoon
"shotgoon" by Welshi [Solo]
DDNet 05/03/2023 3:51 AM
@welshi

this is your map's testing channel! Post map updates here and remember to follow our mapper rules: https://ddnet.org/rules

DDNet 05/03/2023 3:52 AM
welshi 05/03/2023 3:54 AM
welshi 05/03/2023 3:59 AM

fixed the to-tele and added time checkpoints

welshi 05/03/2023 4:10 AM

this image is broken btw

welshi 05/03/2023 4:10 AM

in the website as well

welshi 05/03/2023 4:11 AM

website especially

texnonik 05/03/2023 4:18 AM

Last part i think is bad . Over all looks fun . But i would try to add 1-3 intersting parts . Feels a bit short

fjp123 05/03/2023 5:26 AM

Agreed the last part looks annoying. There’s definitely room for more but I don’t think the length is an issue. Cool idea

pipou_tw 05/03/2023 10:03 AM

Delete those, they are the same as 3-2

pipou_tw 05/03/2023 10:08 AM

Before/after

welshi 05/03/2023 10:44 AM

Can't, shotgun will show up randomly at any of those, meaning you could shoot at point a that uses it, and the shot comes out at point b that uses it

welshi 05/03/2023 10:44 AM

that is really nice, any chance you could send me the file and I work off of it? (if not that's fine)

pipou_tw 05/03/2023 11:13 AM

That's true, I don't know what I thought of

pipou_tw 05/03/2023 11:14 AM

Sure, I'll send it after

cyberfighter 05/03/2023 11:15 AM
pipou_tw 05/03/2023 1:22 PM
pipou_tw 05/03/2023 1:22 PM

I redesigned it, reorganized your layers, optimized the images

pipou_tw 05/03/2023 1:23 PM

Now it's up to you to deal with the gameplay 😄

pipou_tw 05/03/2023 1:27 PM

That shotgun here is useless, make it so it's necessary

pipou_tw 05/03/2023 3:07 PM

The jump refill is useless

pipou_tw 05/03/2023 3:07 PM

I don't get the blocker here

pipou_tw 05/03/2023 3:09 PM

You die if you do it perfectly, also you can cheat and do it without it

pipou_tw 05/03/2023 3:10 PM

As they already said, the ending is awkward

cyberfighter 05/03/2023 3:10 PM

its 0 jumps tile

cyberfighter 05/03/2023 3:10 PM

not refill?

pipou_tw 05/03/2023 3:11 PM

Oh true, just remove the jump from the start then maybe ?

pipou_tw 05/03/2023 3:12 PM

For some reason I thought it was refill

pipou_tw 05/03/2023 3:12 PM

Too much testing

pipou_tw 05/03/2023 3:12 PM

that part isn't really interesting

pipou_tw 05/03/2023 3:22 PM

tele 14 and 3 are the same

pipou_tw 05/03/2023 3:22 PM

maybe add 1 turn off entities at the logo

pipou_tw 05/03/2023 3:22 PM

$waiting

cyberfighter 05/03/2023 3:24 PM

u dont even need the swing

pipou_tw 05/03/2023 3:29 PM

You could place the shotgun in the ground

pipou_tw 05/03/2023 3:37 PM

Cheatable too

pipou_tw 05/03/2023 3:38 PM
pipou_tw 05/03/2023 3:38 PM

Either make a simple shotgun map or use the weapon tele in a better way

pipou_tw 05/03/2023 3:42 PM

Or maybe make it so you can't shotgun on any wall and only in the "vortex"

pipou_tw 05/03/2023 3:42 PM

You could also try to tweak laser_bounce_delay

tristonic 05/07/2023 5:54 AM

design is a little hurtful to my eyes, maybe try varying the color scheme in some way or something, other than that its a good map. mayhap be good plan to make it less faily also feels hella cramped

pipou_tw 05/07/2023 9:01 AM

The colors are pretty saturated, it shouldn't hurt your eyes. Have you tried with a different screen ?

pipou_tw 05/07/2023 9:02 AM

The idea of the map is good but the gameplay isn't as it is since most of the parts don't work (you don't have to use the portals)

pipou_tw 05/07/2023 9:03 AM

The map isn't so dangerous

pipou_tw 05/07/2023 9:03 AM

But adding more tele wouldn't hurt

pipou_tw 05/07/2023 9:03 AM

It doesn't matter much since it's short (unless it becomes longer, which we hope)

welshi 05/07/2023 1:55 PM

Am making it longer yes

welshi 05/22/2023 12:27 AM

getting ready to repost. Just wanted to let y'all know I'm still working on this diligently

welshi 05/22/2023 12:27 AM

kinda remade the map though

welshi 05/23/2023 12:37 AM
@pipou_tw

how did you use 4 blocks in the quad to make a repeating pattern (as one quad)? map is larger now and need to extend it

yaccre 05/23/2023 2:00 AM

pos x = tiles 32 tex u = new pos x / old pos x 1024

welshi 06/26/2023 8:33 PM

fuck it we ball

welshi 06/26/2023 8:34 PM

redid entire map in three sections, added a livefreeze section, extended map by various parts, + more

welshi 06/26/2023 8:34 PM

wwait shit I should add more time cps

welshi 06/26/2023 8:34 PM

anyways

welshi 06/26/2023 8:34 PM
welshi 06/26/2023 8:34 PM

unlisted vid of the current map

welshi 06/26/2023 8:34 PM

current known skips are

welshi 06/26/2023 8:36 PM
welshi 06/26/2023 8:36 PM
welshi 06/26/2023 8:37 PM
welshi 06/26/2023 8:37 PM

all 3 of them flow better than "intended" way, making them better for speedruns, hence why I'm okay with them

welshi 06/26/2023 8:39 PM

reworked time cps

welshi 06/26/2023 8:50 PM

not 100% on the map btw, but figured we got enough changes I'd like some tester feedback

welshi 06/26/2023 9:01 PM

corner

welshi 06/27/2023 2:58 PM

more corners and a tele misplaced

welshi 06/27/2023 3:58 PM

moved one weapon tele cause it was in the way

coke1465 06/28/2023 12:35 PM

u should use stoppers for all parts like this

coke1465 06/28/2023 12:35 PM

u run easy in freeze while doing part

coke1465 06/28/2023 12:44 PM

imo u should make the tele longer to keep the old move, skip was easier than normal way

coke1465 06/28/2023 12:44 PM

idk if u know it, u can shoot 3 times there to go perfectly down

coke1465 06/28/2023 12:46 PM

at this part i used 2 shots, feels nice, maybe u want to add that way

coke1465 06/28/2023 12:47 PM

i saw in video u shoot one time there, but actually its not needed, u can just swing without sg

coke1465 06/28/2023 12:48 PM

in first part u can also shoot there

coke1465 06/28/2023 12:50 PM

cool map

coke1465 06/28/2023 12:50 PM

last part feels lame

coke1465 06/28/2023 12:53 PM

$waiting

welshi 06/28/2023 9:46 PM

i don't really mind this

welshi 06/28/2023 9:52 PM

was trying, I think I'm doing something differently cause I keep hitting the wall to the left, can you show me in game/in a video?

welshi 06/28/2023 9:52 PM

ik, that's both cause it looks better in vid (lmao) and because it makes it more consistent for me for some reason

welshi 06/28/2023 9:53 PM

was aware of this before, seems way less consistent and harder to do though

welshi 06/28/2023 9:53 PM

did the other things though

welshi 06/28/2023 9:56 PM

going with this design for these stoppers (also realized I had @ on sorry about that)

coke1465 06/29/2023 12:20 PM
welshi 06/29/2023 3:49 PM

thank you

welshi 06/29/2023 8:28 PM

Don’t really know hot to force it

popcorn181 07/02/2023 1:28 AM

Put weapon tele on the ceiling

welshi 07/02/2023 1:43 AM

Normal way would still work

coke1465 08/09/2023 4:32 PM
@welshi

what's going on here

welshi 08/09/2023 5:09 PM

I apologize, buncha shit happened to me irl so haven’t been working much on it, I’ll try to get it updated later today

welshi 08/10/2023 1:55 PM

added the stoppers to stop you from going backwards by accident, also modified the last part to feel cooler to play

welshi 08/10/2023 1:56 PM

If I make shotgoon 2 I'll probably make an edge section

welshi 08/10/2023 1:57 PM

but that's unlikely

b0mf 08/10/2023 2:11 PM

whats the intended difficulty?

b0mf 08/10/2023 2:28 PM

part 1 feels a bit strange - i went back and watched the preview and its because i was doing the part incorrectly. this part can be done 3 different ways idk if thats intended part 2 should not be fail i think it needs some sort of dragger to let you attempt again part 3 is very good part 4 is also good though missleading part 5 is very boring compared to previous part 6 is super easy compared to earlier maybe make it so you need speed? part 7 - i like the idea of part 7 but the execution is very confusing i had to watch your preview to understand what to do part after 7 with weapon teles - this part feels super nice all the gameplay here is very good tele 18 is really easy those are my opinions as someone whos quite bad at sg i think this is a solo 2 star :D hope it helps! overall fun map

welshi 08/11/2023 1:51 AM

Glad you enjoyed it

welshi 08/11/2023 1:55 AM

Wdym with part 5 btw?

welshi 08/11/2023 1:55 AM

Which one is it?

welshi 08/11/2023 2:16 AM
@b0mf
welshi 08/11/2023 2:17 AM

if you mean this, I kind of like it, it's simple and a little bit faily, but it also has a skip that's a little failier too

b0mf 08/11/2023 8:55 AM

Part 5 I mean as tp 5

b0mf 08/11/2023 8:56 AM

I also like this part :D I counted this as part of part 3

welshi 08/11/2023 11:54 AM

Thank you for elaborating <3

arrowastaken 08/16/2023 4:41 PM

nice map

arrowastaken 08/16/2023 4:45 PM

i dont like this, you are going too fast here, maybe add a freeze like at the start

arrowastaken 08/16/2023 4:46 PM

the rest seems fine

arrowastaken 08/16/2023 4:48 PM

after what i mentioned should be ready as 2 star

arrowastaken 08/16/2023 4:49 PM

$waiting

welshi 08/16/2023 8:49 PM

If you mean that you can die from the speed if you’re not paying attention I’d rather put a platform to catch you on the left, since I think it flows well

arrowastaken 08/16/2023 8:51 PM

me refiero a que podrias aprovechar la velocidad que ganas

arrowastaken 08/16/2023 8:51 PM

y usarlo para pasar un freeze de 1 tile por ultimo, o usar el hook para pasar algo junto a la velocidad

arrowastaken 08/16/2023 8:52 PM

no se

arrowastaken 08/16/2023 8:52 PM

lasdkj

welshi 08/16/2023 8:52 PM

Aaaaa

welshi 08/16/2023 8:52 PM

Hmm

welshi 08/16/2023 9:01 PM
welshi 08/16/2023 9:01 PM

did a thing

popcorn181 08/16/2023 9:01 PM
welshi 08/16/2023 9:02 PM

It’s a 1x2 freeze tbf looks kinda scary but it’s pretty consistent

arrowastaken 08/22/2023 11:04 PM

$optimize

DDNet 08/22/2023 11:04 PM
arrowastaken 08/22/2023 11:04 PM

$ready 2

thortillat.d.m 08/22/2023 11:12 PM
pipou_tw 08/22/2023 11:16 PM

We are supposed to vote

pipou_tw 08/22/2023 11:16 PM

The rules aren't official yet, but they apply

pipou_tw 08/22/2023 11:16 PM

I remember the map wasn't ready, there are a few parts that don't work well

pipou_tw 08/22/2023 11:16 PM

$reset

arrowastaken 08/22/2023 11:40 PM

do we? i thought wasnt ready yet, but ok

arrowastaken 08/22/2023 11:40 PM

should we do it on the channel or here?

pipou_tw 08/22/2023 11:41 PM

In the channel for now to avoid votes from non-testers

welshi 08/23/2023 8:51 AM

o damn

welshi 08/23/2023 8:51 AM

I don't mind doing more modifications up to you guys

_nehr 08/23/2023 12:36 PM

I still don't see the point of these blockers, you could just remove them and make the platform 2-3 unhookable longer so you cannot cheat

_nehr 08/23/2023 12:37 PM

Same for those blockers, I don't know why it's here

_nehr 08/23/2023 12:38 PM

Beside that I like the map, it has some flow and the parts aren't bad

_nehr 08/23/2023 12:39 PM

The only flow related problem for me is that part, when you get out of livefreeze you have to back to the hookable to hook INTO the block otherwise you can't make it under the platform with the hook on top

_nehr 08/23/2023 12:39 PM

But imo it's fine, you don't have to fix it

_nehr 08/23/2023 12:39 PM

Should be ready after these changes

_nehr 08/23/2023 12:39 PM

$waiting

welshi 08/23/2023 1:53 PM

Agree with this, it’s why I had the previous skip but it just happened to be easier than normal way which had me going crazy

welshi 08/23/2023 2:03 PM

dealt with the stoppers as instructed

welshi 08/23/2023 2:04 PM

I don't mind readding the skip

welshi 08/23/2023 2:04 PM

but it's up to you guys

welshi 08/23/2023 2:04 PM

WAIT

welshi 08/23/2023 2:04 PM

visual bug

_nehr 08/23/2023 2:04 PM

‼️

welshi 08/23/2023 2:04 PM

still looks like skip is possible lmao

welshi 08/23/2023 2:05 PM

fixed visual bug

_nehr 08/23/2023 2:06 PM

didn't manage to do it

welshi 08/23/2023 2:06 PM

and this was the skip in question

welshi 08/23/2023 2:06 PM

yeye I mean like, the visual wasn't updated with the fix

_nehr 08/23/2023 2:07 PM

oh

welshi 08/23/2023 2:07 PM

it's fine now

arrowastaken 08/23/2023 5:59 PM

according to votes is ready

arrowastaken 08/23/2023 6:00 PM

so

arrowastaken 08/23/2023 6:00 PM

$optimize

DDNet 08/23/2023 6:00 PM
arrowastaken 08/23/2023 6:00 PM

$ready 2

popcorn181 08/23/2023 8:11 PM
@welshi

congrats

welshi 08/23/2023 8:42 PM
vappy19 08/25/2023 1:27 PM

Wenaa

misstrip 08/26/2023 12:38 AM
lukov. 08/26/2023 3:20 PM

🥳

b369_ 11/07/2023 3:22 AM

I loved the map

coke1465 11/12/2023 8:41 PM

$released

coke1465 11/14/2023 8:56 PM

$archive_imm