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$ready 2
my honest reaction:
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wow nice test there pipou you're really efficient at this
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thoughts?
$reset
the parallax on stars feels strange to me, they move more horizontally than vertically
also I think the map is definitely harder than 2*
good map
2-3*
one of few coke maps that is playable and fun
My decision was to make it a little harder but unfaily than easy and faily..even that would be too easy imo
I never hit that freeze by doing the part, if u touch it u do something wrong
(it's not the right way of doing the part as I said) For me it is ok that it is hard to jump past there. It's also ok for me if someone makes it, the jump is hard enough.... For me harder than the normal jump. There are many places that are unfaily but also faily places and places where you fall back parts, as well as parts that are not clearly recognizable ... But that's just the map, so I kept it short
As I already said, there are many places that are unfaily but also faily places and places where you fall back parts, as well as parts that are not clearly recognizable ...
For this idk, it was the best for me
I remember back at sketch when I showed a skip, you also said that it doesn't matter because it's weird and hard so why shouldn't I just leave it like that
I'm afraid that's a wrong map xd
dont be afraid!
i would name as jaomp
maybe jao.mp3?
It's ok, u can use edge or go fast left without edge, there are many parts where u can use not just one way to do it. u already notice it, if I add freeze.. Nothing change, just make the part worse
the "real" way is harder and less intuitive, no reason to not fix it for the people who will play it this way
I explained yesterday why it should work as a save way since there are several ways to mess up and if you do, you go back several parts, it already looks like an intended save way but then you get screwed even harder if you try it
that's not a reason to add some fake stuff that looks like you need it in the part
cool map
cool map
witch part ?
u dont need that much swing at all
i think everyone is happy now
That was the only relevant information here
What did I have to do to have people testing more actively
The map was already great, that one small fix was only to bring some more comfort
Resetting it was pointless
Anyway
$ready 2
a lot of people agree with me on this
imo its not hard like 3*, its the problem with having only 5 stars
its more like 2.5
I checked a dozens of 2 and 3 stars maps
And it feels like a 2* to me
guess we are getting a 10star ranking system next🙂
It's short enough and not really punishing
- the map only relies on 2 mechanics
some of the moves are really tricky and it's quite faily
and it's not THAT short
1:30 is short
it's not 1:30 for 2-3* players
Take jungle rush for exemple
It's about the same length
relies on 2 mechanics + has weapons
Doesn't have tele and it's 2*
- parts feel more punishing
jungle rush is maybe 2 bcs it feels not that hard for me
i rated it
Anyway, go on a server
vote random 3*
and try to find a map harder than jomp
You won't
then its ok i guess
Of course it won't be for beginners but that applies to any map and any length. Novice players will always take longer and even a short map will feel giant
it's harder than any 2* I've played
Maybe im delusional
But I keep voting random 2*
And it's about the same difficulty
maybe
Or maybe you are
idk
take into consideration that this map is faily, most 2* maps with same difficulty are at least not faily
There is a lot of faily 2*
yeah but the parts are simpler
I disagree
If you want more exemple
Take a look at Loopie
honestly that feels like a 3* map to me too
It's not easy but it doesn't feel hard enough compared to any 3* I voted
if it's somewhere between 2 and 3 then I'd rather make it 3
better slightly overrated than under
It feels closer to 2* to me
And I don't think overrating maps is a good idea when the average skill keeps increasing over the years
xD bro made a discord account just to randomly complain the exact same thing as ravie lol
I said it would happen to people and it did
i wonder why still nobody find the useless skip in this picture
Missed one line
Testing at its best
forum wasnt that bad afterall..
I'm assuming figuring out the correct path is part of the map's charm cause this feels like a maze
Ofc
btw u just said that jomp is harder than every 3 star
so 4 star map?
MB
I meant the opposite
good cool map i approve even tho im bad at solo 👍 do think design is a bit goofy looking, seems cramped or something but prob dont matter(just my humble opinion)
The tight parts are part of the map's design (gameplay-wise)
The graphic design is quite simple and easy to read
i think it's him, as you can see he has a problem with every design 😄
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I wonder, what's a good design to you ? (a map for example)
I like the design, simple and not confusing
yeah prolly just me idk. something like vagrant or destoros maps have cool design
behemoth has lit design
Rerate to 3 stars
Anyone here able to do the shit?
Its not even hard and its short
Why 3 stars
And if u fail to do most parts, you fall down and get to try them again
1) Its hard (harder than pogo for sure) 2) There are a few hooks which are super precise for some reason 3) When you fall 70% of the time you die or lose so much that you might as well restart 3 stars is just right for this map
pogo is harder, i didn't finish it maybe rerate pogo map?
Be seriously
Yes it's short. But its tricky map, u need to learn timings, but before them u fail it 100 times. This map absolutely 3 stars.
Get good . Aoe finish it less then 10 tries . Maybe rerate map to 1 star
I do feel like this is more of a 3 than a 2
But I don’t think it’s a high enough difference in difficulty to be complaining about it
This map is barely over a minute long and all of the parts are easy if you run them in /practice. Even if you do fall you will most likely be able to redo the part. I don't really see how it could be 3*
problem is that rating for solo maps is very bad, for duo maps we have 20 levels of difficulty (nov,mod,brut,ins) and this while it is clearly not enough, at least between brut5 and ins1 should be at least 3* additional difficultis (brutal+ or something like that) for solo maps only 5 :/
so have to choose between "⭐ ⭐ -hard" or "⭐ ⭐ ⭐ -easy"
so you now discuss useless stuff like "blue and black dress" or "yellow and white"
Map is easy its just skill issue
You guys for real dumb if you cant compare 2 and 3 star maps
Also lenght of map does no affect difficult. It could have 2 parts in whole map which 5 stars, and map will be 5 stars.
This map will stay as 2 stars, nothing more to add.
"Also lenght of map does no affect difficult", since when lol
it definitely does its a combination of failyness, part difficulty, length
doing a hard faily part once is easy with infinite tries
doing 10 in a row without being allowed to fail once is not the same story at all
Do not really remember who said that but one of testers. Maybe arrow or louis idk
Thats different, 10 4 star parts is 4 star map, 50 4 star parts is also 4 star map.
We talk about map lenght at all, not only about part
thats not true especially wxhen its faily
1 run antibuguse part would never be 5 star race
and 1 memento mori part neither
So this logic works only if parts faily
not really
part 1 run antibuguse map wouldnt be 5 stars
its hard but its 1 part)
It would be, if ddnet would release 1 part map
Difficult is difficult
Run antibuguse show off u thats its hard from first part to last, its difinitely 5 star every part
i think it should still affect it a bit, especially if its well mapped (i.e barren with 5 parts would probably be brutal 1 or even less, because difficulty is increasing)
but yes its mostly true on faily maps
i glad we get general opinion
According to my expirience (especcially on solo maps and solo mapping) i'd rate it as 3
that raises a question tho
in most maps the length is "similar" and doesnt impact much feeling of difficulty as long as its not faily
but at what point does a map become so long or so short that it could impact difficulty feeling
i guess u are right
since we have saves and swap and all this shit now
even if its 5 hours long u can just save
it doesnt feel hard just annoying long
1+ min enough to be 3 stars, theres much timings, fails, and annoying swings, some edges which does not fit for 2 star maps 4 me
You baised to me, little piece of cake. Who are you to decide for all?
Worst moderator i ever saw, offended on me cuz i judged on race maps releasing and gave me mute for no real reason
Look at players opinion then say something instead of self-affirmation. Did u even played this map?
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