Pretty nice simple map. Will definitely need some changes but I'm in favor of releasing it. More about it after full test 😀

Thank you so much the message. 😀 Yes it is necessary to improve a few things.Today night I start to correct things.(On the test server I saw some thing that was not good)When I'm done,i send here for you in the chat?Or the first time wait the full test? 😀

I think u can start to fix errors u have seen

Make a changelog every time u upload a new version of the map

Okey,I'm done.Now i reupload the map.

Oh

U have to upload the new version of the map here

Not in

Oh... I'm so sorry

Don't worry it's fine xd, just upload the map here now c:

is it big deal if we can skip startline? xd

I don't really understand, but no problem xd

startline has to be unskipable

otherwise you can do 0s times

then fix because this startline is skippable xd

and also you need to force teams

not necessarily

server has that settings anyways

oh ok

but startline is definitely skippable

oh,okay I understand

Like this?😀

You should always use red teleports instead of blue, use blue teles only if it doesnt work with red, all parts here works with red so change it

add more hookable here

unfreeze

delete this freeze, only wasting 3 sec

unfreeze

unfreeze

unfreeze

more unfreeze, with average speed u just missing it

stupid part, i would change it

add wall which u can touch for fall or add more space here

more hookable

add unfreeze in totele 2

useless freeze, only wasting time

less freeze here, too faily

delete this line of freeze, too faily and not obvious that u gonna die

add team unlocker tile

okey thanks, I'll start the repairs, I think a half an hour and I'm done

bug

dirt shouldnt be inside of this ht

very good improvement since ur last posted map here, agree with Ravie, nice simple map

Thank you very much, that felt good.If you managed to correct everything, there's a chance to get in?

do something more with the shotgun part

its so slow and boring and shotgun is used only to move the tee

second half of map is really boring

you can probably cheat weapons

i deleted the shoutgun "part",and insted i maked switch part

boring

Cool

👍

ye its boring

you just move your tee around, jumps through freeze and keep waiting for unfreeze

you have to wait 18 times to get unfreezed

add unfreeze tiles

you lose almost a minute in freeze

i added the unfreeze tiles

too boring?

yes

Okey.Next time, tomorrow I'll continue, I'm tired. I'll be back tomorrow.

switch part was fine imo

you're not really being helpful "boring boring boring boring"

y, switch part is fine

this map no need to have something crazy

it was repetetive, you are going 18 times through freeze no fun parts, you just move your dummy to get to boring map

dont get my wrong, its good map but it needs as kicker said something crazy

maybe you should recomendt some part for him

dummy 2* no need something crazy

its chill map for bobs

It's actually kinda refreshing to play something simple, these days mappers are fighting over who can use more switches and other stuff

should I map the map for him or what

or should I explain why an ultra basic part is boring

It's not boring, not all maps need to be full of new parts

?xd

To a beginner mapper it's hard to make a part more interesting anyway, he can try random stuff and it will likely end up bad, saying "boring" is only gonna confuse him. So if you can't help then better don't say anything, especially since the part was alright :x

ofc it’s confusing

there is a learning process

not working on it isn’t helpful

Then explain what he should learn

To be honest,I do not know what to do I.Anyhow,i added the unfreeze tiles,and I maked the switch part.

E

upload updates here not in

😄

This part is boring?

And this?

Updated version**

delete this freeze

move this block or make hole bigger

add > stopper

would delete freeze and kill tile from marked area, its stupid imo

replace all blue teles with red

lame jump, recalculate it somehow, now it works bad

Okey,thanks

I'm done.

Changed the part,added all unfreeze's,and deleted the freeze,below I put the block.

I clean forgot to add this,don't they know to cut off.

Fixed the weapons*

pls just remove the weapons. its looks like u cant make them uncheatable

Okey.

Removed the weapons

wrong name

Sorry,I'm just a little tired.

I'd remove those starts, annoying to walk into

move up so switch and deep is visible from up

move the floor up so it's visible to people standing up on the platform with default zoom

that way they can see the part is faily and where they should put dummy*

I liked the old version of this part more

is this freeze just to punish people who dropped their dummy? maybe it should be a bit shallower

use correct tiles on start design so the squares match

put grass in front of the player

hookthrough should be transparent like this

would look better if there's always grass under generics

weird hole after finish

try to match spikes color to generics a bit better

should be marked as endless-off, looks like unfreeze

Thanks Ravie

New startline

I did above

New spike color

more shallower

deleted the wrong entites

dimmer

weir hole improved

added grass

changed part

I meant spikes should match unhookables, and grass meant the tileset, doesn't have to be literally grass 😅

Ops 😅

Like this,

?*

no no

like that

oh,i understand 😄

Done*

Deleted again a wrong entites,where lost the infinity jump.

ups

design or entities problem

these entities should be indicate

Okey thanks Dark,but i dont have a time now. I and my family going to holiday.

Very nice map 😃

Why would there be double freezes 🤔

I'd move the switch more down, this hook could be more exciting imo

Little skip I guess?

Thank you!😁 when I get home from holiday I'll do it all.

Deleted the freeze,and added "fake desing"

longer ht

below switch

entites

sorry,but i dont know what do you mean in the first picture:s

add 1 block here and delete markings

part too faily compared to others, add more hookables here

throw is hard and if u fail it, its not saveable

make it easier and saveable

delete sv_pauseable from server settings and add "sv_team 2" "sv_deepfly 0" "sv_max_team_size 2"

added more hookable

added 1 block,and i deleted the marketings

changed the part

now done lol,I messed up the config

added more unfreeze's like this

better use 1 sec freeze for that, not unfreeze tile

add unfreeze for possibility to go back if u dropped dummy

mark unfreeze tile here

add more hookables

cheat

done all

Thank you

This good?

using doors to fix tiny cheats is a bad idea

removerd the doors

and this?

$ready 2

thanks

🔘

3* kthx

rls when

balega more like baegay

your maps arent better

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fixed more design bugs and bit balanced 1 part

this is below our standard

no real parts

everything forced with doors

feels like castaway but 100x worse

Dafak

?

Ja

I mean its a decent map with basic but original parts, might aswell release it

it's an enjoyable simple map, I'd rather release 10 maps like this than another insane map just trying to be unfinishable

TRUE

wut?

Endless hook is not rly necesary here, easily done without it

map is cool, i really enjoyed it

it’s not good just because it’s easy

wtf is that argument

but its enjoyable

and whats wrong with doors btw

its not like they are skipable or something

in this case

🤡

is it u?

nice make up dude

i know ur main job is being a clown, but put a little effort into testing maps

it’s really poor mapping to force every little part with doors

example: bomb raid and bomb raid 2

you mentioning another bad map to justify this one is the exact reason why it shouldn’t be released

come on, bomb raids were pretty popular after release

ive seen a full server with these maps after a couple months

ddmax maps are full too sometimes 🤡

bomb raid 2 made 2600 finishes by 1600 tees in just 6 months, thats a lot for a dummy map, u cant just say its bad because u dont like it

u can’t say it’s good because u like it either

yea but i can say its good cuz of the statistics

people wouldnt play it if it was bad

stats tell nothing about whether a map is well made or not

sure they do

as i said above

no one in their right mind would say ddmax maps are good

but they get played too

i got ur point here, but one thing i dont understand is why this amount of doors is bad

if it works then why is it bad

is that ur mentality

yes lol

whats wrong with doors

how am i going to argue about quality with some who thinks anything that works is inherently good 🤡

u abusing the clown emoji is annoying

stop it

it only makes u look stupid

it makes u look like a clown, not the other side

not saying u cant just explain why its bad

because it isnt

imagine being triggered by an emoji 🤡

maybe ravie will explain it, hes the smart one here

I tested the map

Half of parts are really fun, it's original and not that hard

It's a good point

But another half is boring

With really basic parts

I understand what Jao said. Lot of parts looks good but the end of the part is an useless door. It's like the part isn't finish and the mapper didn't take time to make an smouth part

show me an original part please 🤡

Okay

That's is commun part but the way is original, players 'll enjoy it

Advice for the mapper :

Here remove endlesse, it's useless if you take more time than the commun hook, you fall on freeze. It's stuff for nothing

what’s original about that

do u know what original means

Here maybe do something for the hole, if you got unluck you can fall on it and then fail

Yea I know (take look to my maps

) Nothing is crazy on the map but it's not copy past from another map

Then it's original but not crazy

I told that half of the map is boring

these parts existed before

I agree with you

they aren’t original

Not all but some parts yea

all

show me a truly original part

When I said original it's not something crazy

But how the part is work

nothing original about that

That's part might be good. But the part looks unfinished. The beginning of the part is good but that door make this part not so much enjoyable

how does a door make it less enjoyable

u don’t interact with it

Yea it's what i said

The part isn't finish

no it’s the opposite of what u said

wtf

??

The door is too much because that means the part isn't finished

It's too simple

He can make a nice way to get back dummy

But he only put a door to uncut and then go back to take dummy

It's not really the door who make the part enjoyable but destroy the flow of the part

Because that part can be really nice

I only share my feeling about the map, It's look unfinished map because there are too much basic parts and "unfinished" part with door. If I was a tester or the mapper I should rework some part because there are lot of good idea but bad implemented. I'm only a player then I told you all of that, if this version is rls, the map 'll be play only for points

kinda unfair fail here, you should cover this hole

add unfreeze

if you want tower here then remove unfreeze

changed some part,added new finish part,added more unfreeze

I dont know why not update the bot

fixed

Changed some part again

So parts MUST be original to be fun and good ?

Damn

We gonna run out of good maps really soon

when did i say that?

in the part that Pepe mentioned endless was fine, now that move sucks tbh, I would bring endless back

Too faily tbh

I just said its kinda useless so the part can be a "little" more difficult

add tele, this is just stupid

remove freeze under tele

remove unfreeze, you can hold jump and skip needing dummy

change ht to unhookable, trying to use dummy here will only make you fail

think of a better way to fix this part, it's still cheatable only now it has obvious anti-cheat... that doesn't even fully work

remove freeze under kill

add tele

put freeze under switch

remove this unfreeze, can skip tower by holding jump

this part is weird and doesn't work too well

this part is too hard for this map

move Switch layer above game, looks weird in entities

Thanks

,done all

Make cheatable (tele2 part)

great map^^

really enjoyable and better than some "original" maps

agree, should be released as is 🙂

when you see this sentence https://gyazo.com/158eff571ce9ff2fad5f6f38f7ee1a56

Are you gonna post this shit everywhere?

Great meme

So funny

Facebook meme

Not facebook , no

Please,decline it.

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I was tried to re-work this map (dont be a boring parts again) but this it takes as much work as I do to make a new map

What? I dont think there s much to rework

Almost all the part's boring, the whole thing again to do it

?

almost everyone like this map like it is

it's not boring

jao thinks it is thus it wont get released

nothing much u can do about that

doesn't matter, everybody wants to see this map released

release it then

after those fixes it's ready imo

add stoppers so this is easier

either make the hole visible on default zoom or put arrows that you need to put dummy on wall

entity bug

inconsistent marking?

deep looks like tele

and tele shouldn't be 100% visible, looks weird

that's all

Done all...Thank you Ravie.

New startline..

rls

uh why did you make a skippable start line? xD

Ops xd

fixed logo and a few smaller things

$ready 3

(if someone disagrees with this difficulty rating feel free to say it)

this is never 20 pts map wtf, compare it to any 18-21 pts brutal or dummy 3*, its very much easier

rerate it to 2 then, though to me it feels a bit harder than most 2 maps I can think of

finally

https://tenor.com/view/love-gif-5105151

Why exactly wouldn't this be 3*

Its super similar difficulty to NoTeleBro

And relatively the same style

I'd even say this is a bit harder

that's actually what I thought

notelebro

maybe we have to do something about points for dummy maps

yeah nerf dummy chamber

its definitely easier than notelebro at least because of length, just finished it in 6 min with chill run, r1 on notelebro is 5 30

it's not short

your 'chill run' is probably 4x faster than mine

no xd

imo

its 2*

should be 6*

i finished this first try

without knowing the map

its not that hard

or faily

2* should fit

notelebro is way harder and more faily lol

i would compare it more to stellar

never

this is harder than darkvine imo

definitely way failier

yes

i finished this by myself

i didnt finished notelebro by myself

this is easier

NoTeleBro is ez first try map and this isnt

100%

even starkiller finished

group spawns together

Maybe make a poll

Good map

Rls

What do you think? 2 or 3?

When you get better ( or you are ) you think something is easyer , but actually if you retry old map you see that map is not hard . But when you played it its was harder ...

ye, fucking aip_gores holy shit

5* solo

rls

waiting for him to address [1:10 AM] jao: group spawns together

ops,sorry

maybe this friday?

yea sure