#Space_Mission
"Space Mission" by чмоня & Mirfay [Dummy]
DDNet 02/17/2025 2:42 PM

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@_kkrs
DDNet 02/17/2025 2:42 PM
vena6080 02/17/2025 3:15 PM

structure and space is fine, gameplay is basic but work well and i think it's good to have some easy basic dummy

_kkrs 02/17/2025 3:17 PM

i do easy dummy map, if some parts unbalanced i fix this parts

vena6080 02/17/2025 3:17 PM

going back here is not smooth and the speeder is not a great utilization

vena6080 02/17/2025 3:17 PM
vena6080 02/17/2025 3:17 PM

it's balance i think

vena6080 02/17/2025 3:18 PM

and even if it's slower, you can go with your dummy on the right pass

_kkrs 02/17/2025 3:18 PM

for this short map i think slow parts is good, if i wrong i fix it

vena6080 02/17/2025 3:18 PM

i don't think cp are rly necessary here, it's more messy

vena6080 02/17/2025 3:19 PM

i mean it doesn't give a good flow, part can be slow with flow, or slow because it's more a puzzle like or other reason, but here it feel weird

vena6080 02/17/2025 3:22 PM

better connect all the parts, tp for a little distance is useless and the way to fix the skip with switch is not good (in many parts) better find a way to use the dummy or else so you can't go both up

_kkrs 02/17/2025 3:22 PM

These checkpoints are so that you don't have to go back when you fall.

vena6080 02/17/2025 3:24 PM

a bit tight and the switch problems

_kkrs 02/17/2025 3:24 PM

what are the problems with switching here?

_kkrs 02/17/2025 3:25 PM

i test this map all good work

vena6080 02/17/2025 3:25 PM

switch are not needed, map can be more clean, (but yes it works)

vena6080 02/17/2025 3:26 PM

1 spawn only, because it's 1 tee, and you don't need a 4 and a 5 for the same spawn

vena6080 02/17/2025 3:26 PM

same here for the switch it's useless

vena6080 02/17/2025 3:27 PM

and again,

  • the speeder is not great, you can put tele on the border
vena6080 02/17/2025 3:27 PM

cheatable

vena6080 02/17/2025 3:27 PM
_kkrs 02/17/2025 3:28 PM

ok, I can remove tp 5 and put tp 4 instead of tp 5.

vena6080 02/17/2025 3:28 PM

the speeder and switch is again the same problem and the antihook is not well used, and still can be cheated (taking grenade)

vena6080 02/17/2025 3:30 PM

even if it's made to be easy and basic, it can be a bit more developed on some parts

vena6080 02/17/2025 3:30 PM
vena6080 02/17/2025 3:31 PM

hard to see the diff between HT and unhook

vena6080 02/17/2025 3:32 PM
vena6080 02/17/2025 3:33 PM

i think i'll decline for now but map can be work and repost, maybe just reset if it's done well before the channel will be archived

DDNet 02/17/2025 3:33 PM

Mention:

@_kkrs
itom6176 02/17/2025 3:33 PM

Imo map is tooo basic, doesnt have any special or cool creative parts. Still was fun to play. Design is also okay. Its not a bad map but its not offering enough for a release rn.

vena6080 02/17/2025 3:34 PM

also miss some command in server setting, you need to force 2p and restrict the deepfly

_kkrs 02/17/2025 3:35 PM

idk how fix it

_kkrs 02/17/2025 3:35 PM

i fix misstakes

vena6080 02/17/2025 3:37 PM
vena6080 02/17/2025 3:38 PM
_kkrs 02/17/2025 3:55 PM

thanks

_kkrs 02/17/2025 4:50 PM

typed commands

_kkrs 02/17/2025 4:52 PM

made the part more universal

_kkrs 02/17/2025 4:52 PM

deleted door

_kkrs 02/17/2025 4:54 PM

need more universal part or more hard?

_kkrs 02/17/2025 4:55 PM

remove

_kkrs 02/17/2025 4:57 PM

He put up shields so that he couldn't be outsmarted

mirfay123 02/17/2025 7:36 PM

i didnt say anything if u said thats on me btw^ i didnt even say post the map anyway

mirfay123 02/17/2025 7:38 PM

going right is slower so its not rlly a skip

mirfay123 02/17/2025 7:38 PM

i got stuck last time and to top things off i finished with 15mins cuz no cps

mirfay123 02/17/2025 7:40 PM

harder than intended

mirfay123 02/17/2025 7:41 PM

from far ig

mirfay123 02/17/2025 7:43 PM

i agree with other opinions elsewise.

mirfay123 02/17/2025 7:46 PM
@_kkrs

from dms tho; said upload the map to me, not here :/ but i kinda have a feeling this can make through

mirfay123 02/17/2025 7:46 PM

VéNa alsoo if i have enh time imma make an obstacle course whete u drag

mirfay123 02/17/2025 7:47 PM

keep in mind that i dont rlly spend alot on this map so 87% not making onr

mirfay123 02/17/2025 7:50 PM

i already typed commands in the secret unknown first ver, but maybe he just made a new map and forgot

_kkrs 02/18/2025 11:43 AM

Do I need to make it bigger?

itom6176 02/18/2025 11:55 AM

Iam not a tester, but i really like short maps. But than every part needs to be creative and something more special imo. You have like a few straight gores parts and some basic drags seen a hundred times. Make it a bit more unique. In germany we say: Das Salz in der Suppe fehlt.

_kkrs 02/18/2025 12:05 PM

ok thanks

mirfay123 02/18/2025 12:30 PM

no

mirfay123 02/18/2025 12:31 PM

just fix all of the above

kamyls 02/18/2025 6:11 PM

Fun short map but unbalanced. Some parts are novice (and a little bit boring) and some are main/brutal

balami. 02/18/2025 6:18 PM

we don't have main here 🤓

mirfay123 02/18/2025 7:12 PM

yeah we have stars in dummy

_kkrs 02/18/2025 8:56 PM

Please show me which parts are not balanced, I will balance them.

kamyls 02/18/2025 10:23 PM

This part is too easy i think

kamyls 02/18/2025 10:25 PM

This part is too easy too

kamyls 02/18/2025 10:26 PM

This part you can go down innstead of doing the upper part

nixuslegendary 02/18/2025 10:50 PM

Short and Simple Map This map would be really good if it had been released before Dummy Chamber or Caventure

nixuslegendary 02/18/2025 10:51 PM

I found this a bit uncomfortable, when picking up the dummy I hit the wall and the dummy falls

nixuslegendary 02/18/2025 10:52 PM

There is no unfreeze in some parts where it should be (for me at least)

nixuslegendary 02/18/2025 10:53 PM

Isn't it easier just to use the tele 5 instead of the tele 4?

nixuslegendary 02/18/2025 10:56 PM

I can't believe this is done by 2 people generally maps with just 1 mappers are already big, if they are not big they are cool this one is a simple map with nothing new maybe one made the map and the other made the design

mirfay123 02/19/2025 6:36 AM

harder than intended

mirfay123 02/19/2025 6:37 AM

we just split work but now im working on desing and quads more often

mirfay123 02/19/2025 1:57 PM
@_kkrs

send map

_kkrs 02/19/2025 2:00 PM
DDNet 02/19/2025 2:00 PM
mirfay123 02/19/2025 2:12 PM

made some qol and buffed a part

DDNet 02/19/2025 2:12 PM
mirfay123 02/19/2025 2:13 PM
@_kkrs
_kkrs 02/19/2025 2:13 PM

?

mirfay123 02/19/2025 2:13 PM

approve

mirfay123 02/19/2025 2:13 PM

checkmark

mirfay123 02/19/2025 2:14 PM

1 sec

mirfay123 02/19/2025 2:14 PM

idk

mirfay123 02/19/2025 2:15 PM
mirfay123 02/19/2025 2:15 PM

the new ver doesnt upload

mirfay123 02/19/2025 2:21 PM

made that part less harder

DDNet 02/19/2025 2:21 PM
anthonyyx 02/19/2025 2:42 PM

is the tileset a public tileset? looks very much like planet9

mirfay123 02/19/2025 2:48 PM

idk ask that guy

anthonyyx 02/19/2025 2:48 PM

you should probably have talked with your co-mapper

mirfay123 02/19/2025 2:49 PM

why

mirfay123 02/19/2025 2:51 PM

added a ht to that part seemed hard af

DDNet 02/19/2025 2:51 PM
_kkrs 02/19/2025 2:52 PM

Planet 9 has uneven blocks, but these blocks are also smooth.

anthonyyx 02/19/2025 2:55 PM

the design on the tiles are exactly like those on planet 9

mirfay123 02/19/2025 2:56 PM

1 sec

_kkrs 02/19/2025 2:56 PM

by bit

mirfay123 02/19/2025 2:56 PM

it does say it is from bit, yet i dont think they are

mirfay123 02/19/2025 2:57 PM

so maybe it is from planet9, but who cares anyway

anthonyyx 02/19/2025 2:57 PM
@blaiszephyr

the type of tester to riot because of stolen design

mirfay123 02/19/2025 2:57 PM

no u

blaiszephyr 02/19/2025 2:59 PM

most things are released CC-BY, e.g you're free to use them but give the creators proper credits and/or ask them beforehand.

tho in general i wouldnt recommend taking the design of others, otherwise maps would just look like mere copys

mirfay123 02/19/2025 2:59 PM

also added his logo, so yall dont get mad (smwhere on the start)

mirfay123 02/19/2025 3:00 PM

this map has other color, it aint brutal, and it is kinda easy

mirfay123 02/19/2025 3:00 PM

i didnt take the desing, _kkrs did

mirfay123 02/19/2025 3:01 PM

also you have any idea why checking that message doesnt do anything

mirfay123 02/19/2025 3:01 PM

reset the map like 3 times idk

mirfay123 02/19/2025 3:01 PM

this

blaiszephyr 02/19/2025 3:02 PM

did kkrs approve it? - only channel owner and testers can approve it iirc

mirfay123 02/19/2025 3:02 PM

yeah he did

mirfay123 02/19/2025 3:02 PM

on all of the vers above

blaiszephyr 02/19/2025 3:02 PM

maybe the bot has a hiccup idunno

blaiszephyr 02/19/2025 3:02 PM

yup worked when i did it

blaiszephyr 02/19/2025 3:02 PM

y'all such beta testers its crazy

mirfay123 02/19/2025 3:03 PM

it doesnt upload on the server btw

mirfay123 02/19/2025 3:03 PM

alr gtg

blaiszephyr 02/19/2025 3:08 PM

it does - it just takes a while.

mirfay123 02/19/2025 3:08 PM

it didnt with his version

blaiszephyr 02/19/2025 3:11 PM

you.. changed the name.. of the map file...

blaiszephyr 02/19/2025 3:11 PM
blaiszephyr 02/19/2025 3:12 PM

reuploading this version with the proper name

blaiszephyr 02/19/2025 3:17 PM

jumping here will freeze you - annoying because you usually jump out of habit

blaiszephyr 02/19/2025 3:17 PM

this could be solved much cleaner with regular TP instead of walls of CP

blaiszephyr 02/19/2025 3:20 PM

maybe this could be solved a little cleaner aswell, i pulled him right out of habit, dragged him the entire way and while that isnt dead (because you basically skip the other part because of it) - it's just meh.

blaiszephyr 02/19/2025 3:20 PM

this still spreads across the entire map :/

blaiszephyr 02/19/2025 3:21 PM

the idea is good, we need dummy maps accessible for newer players

blaiszephyr 02/19/2025 3:24 PM

and ofc - obvious skips

_kkrs 02/19/2025 3:25 PM

I can add a button that opens the door when pressed.

0x314 02/19/2025 3:26 PM

sounds like a lazy fix

blaiszephyr 02/19/2025 3:26 PM

^

think of a different way to structure a part instead of fixing it with special tiles.

blaiszephyr 02/19/2025 3:26 PM

for every unneccessary tile - a twinbop dies.

mirfay123 02/19/2025 3:32 PM
_kkrs 02/19/2025 3:33 PM

I did it on purpose so that in the next part he would activate the door in the desk by pressing the button, but I was told to remove it

_kkrs 02/19/2025 3:33 PM

here

blaiszephyr 02/19/2025 3:49 PM

need to tell vena why you chose to do that instead of just removing it - maybe vena just didnt think theres a reason because he missed that you could skip it alltogether

_kkrs 02/19/2025 4:43 PM

do door for no skip part

_kkrs 02/19/2025 4:44 PM

I couldn't think of anything better than adding a door in 5 seconds.

_kkrs 02/19/2025 4:45 PM

do only 1 tele for 1 part

_kkrs 02/19/2025 4:46 PM
_kkrs 02/19/2025 4:47 PM

do part more universal

_kkrs 02/19/2025 4:48 PM

there need to deactivate the door and return Dummy through the same part.

_kkrs 02/19/2025 4:48 PM

too do part more universal

_kkrs 02/19/2025 4:49 PM

I think I've fixed all the errors that caused the map to be rejected.

_kkrs 02/19/2025 4:51 PM
DDNet 02/19/2025 4:51 PM
anthonyyx 02/19/2025 5:04 PM

u can skip both platform here btw

anthonyyx 02/19/2025 5:04 PM

hope its just because of screenshot that makes the design looks fucked up?

vena6080 02/19/2025 5:25 PM

i know the reason, i always checked the reason, but he put 2 anti cheat with swtich (1 would be enough) and we prefere clean mapping, the same can be done without switch

mirfay123 02/20/2025 1:41 PM

who cares, its even easier with platforms

mirfay123 02/20/2025 1:45 PM

fixed some stuff, also i added some stoppers to the part in reply since i got confused once and didnt even notice that u have to hook dummy up.

DDNet 02/20/2025 1:45 PM
mirfay123 02/20/2025 1:45 PM
@_kkrs
mirfay123 02/20/2025 2:44 PM
@_kkrs

2

anthonyyx 02/20/2025 3:15 PM

because its a skip, makes the part faster

mirfay123 02/20/2025 3:38 PM

no it doesnt

mirfay123 02/27/2025 10:16 AM

need some1 to test

DDNet 02/27/2025 10:54 AM
mirfay123 03/12/2025 1:34 PM

...

oxyzo. 03/12/2025 1:36 PM

uuh

kickerx 03/13/2025 9:10 AM

for some reason last door is not enabled so its possible to team finish

kickerx 03/13/2025 9:11 AM

this is not fixed

kickerx 03/13/2025 9:12 AM

this is not fixed and i want to agree that the hookblocker tile shouldnt be used for such case, you should think how to fix things with basic tiles first instead of placing hookblocker or other special tiles

kickerx 03/13/2025 9:24 AM

i kinda agree with previous commentators here. map is VERY short and the parts here are the most basic ones. if you want it to be released you need to make map at least 2-3 times bigger and add some refreshing parts between simple parts

As VeNa mentioned the structure and spacing here is really good, design is cute too

you can take a look at the "Bomb Raid" maps, these maps are simple but offers something refreshing between simple drags and the length is not that short

DDNet 03/13/2025 9:25 AM
oxyzo. 03/13/2025 10:33 AM
itom6176 03/13/2025 11:09 AM

Bomb Raids=Best maps!!

kickerx 03/13/2025 11:12 AM
@murpi

^ the bot always answering this when i use any slash command. the command is still working tho, just fyi

oxyzo. 03/13/2025 12:42 PM

-# DDNet is thinking...

mirfay123 03/15/2025 9:30 AM

i found a conclusion how to fix the skip

mirfay123 03/15/2025 9:32 AM

will also fix

mirfay123 03/15/2025 9:34 AM

i litellary asked in

#💬meta-testing

if such a map is long enough

mirfay123 03/15/2025 9:34 AM

and beilive it or not, even sum testers said ye

mirfay123 03/15/2025 9:35 AM

ill fix later

kickerx 03/15/2025 3:01 PM

map is not releasable if u are not gonna make it at least 2-3 times bigger. there currently almost no content to play

mirfay123 03/15/2025 6:58 PM

ok then ima quit mapping for sum time, maybe i come back

mirfay123 03/18/2025 7:26 PM
@_kkrs

can you focus on the map? ima be off for a looong time.

mirfay123 03/18/2025 7:26 PM

when you are done dm me and ill maybe check the fixes

_kkrs 03/19/2025 10:43 AM

ok