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NYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU 🫶🏻❤️ 🐣

YESSSSS

wil look at it after work

removed the freeze here and placed unfreeze there

🚬

tested all relevant parts i remember with

and had a glimpse over the entire map again

spacing on a few parts could theoretically be improved, like the attached screenshot which forces a weird hammer IMO

other than that, map seems unchanged and ready to ship

you had an issue with a hammer which you felt was kind of hard/random, mind rechecking? - i only tested it with dummy which is obviously much easier XD

swing part in question:

Whats with this part?

I love that Hammer 😂

I hate it

, your choice to keep ofc

IKU on its first submit didn't like that IIRC, so I wanted to ask him about it because it's untouched

I actually never missed it, even without dummy. And if you miss it you can just try again

Yeah it's not even punishing, but better safe than sorry

Alright

^i personally wouldn't rate it higher given its t0 aspect. I also think there are only a handful of actually difficult parts 2p The only thing that may push the difficulty up is the gores tbh

Brutal 3?😂

If insane then I would even rate it higher than 2 star 😅

I rated it at 3* insane.. didn't I

Insane 3 is good

Looking at the screenshots I feel like the unhookables could use slightly more contrast in comparison with the background no?

I had no issue whatsoever playing with design on

Insane 4 is extremely long no?

insane 2-3 map is not so different than sus2

tested the map with

fixed a couple smaller stuff

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rls tomorrow ok for u?

nooo pls im not home snail

release on Sunday

💔 🥀

Do next weekend😇

im asking the mapper lol

cant please everyone

or release it around 7pm 😇

is fine?

I'd suggest postponing it for 1 week too, we just had a big release with Abyss and no maps ready besides this

This

ye that makes more sense

when release

mapper can choose 👆🏻

Next week ideal. Abyss is still hyped and 2 insane maps within basically 1 week is a lot

👁️ 👄 👁️

no one is playing Abyss tho besides 6 players

That’s not true

rest is just afk speccing the map

Nyu will reply in 3 months anyway

What about this sunday 20:00 (8 p.m.)? If not then next friday 20.00?

Tomorrow im not home 😦 and next saturday too

8pm is crazy

Next week Friday sounds better in my opinion so people can play it over the weekend. Not sure about the time.

does 6pm work on friday or is that too early?

Sunday around 6pm would be fine or not?

People will have one evening to play instead of 3?

Max and Me not home 😔

Sunday 18 is good, next friday 18 good too

lets do next friday then

A few design bugs (thanks to Tropo and Cor!) you should fix, preferably before release. Please note that it's not a good habit to lazily place design inside blocks as you couldn't see it anyway (especially freeze, and chains) but this is just a note for further maps and doesn't require fixing here. 😄 The kill tile design bugs are obviously up for you to decide on whether you'd want to fix those - there are more like that than on the screenshots.

i spent 30 minutes looking for design bugs

gg i'm useless

Thank you! Im gonna fix them today after work. And I will Go through and take a look at all killtiles to put them the right colour. I appreciate it!

ugly ahh map

Map was so long in testing that we have abyss design standards now

If you have nothing constructive to add it’s best to not write anything at all. Especially with the inconsiderate wording.

Fixed the design bugs and changed the wrong coloured killtiles

stfu, its ugly, I think its ugly, what am I supposed to say, its not ugly? that would be lieing, I think its ugly, take it as you will

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dont bother cats ^^

bro check out this cli oh wait wrong type of ban

Sorry but you seem to have missed one

(absolutely crucial for maps success!).

2. Picture some "Spike holders" have the wrong color (just an example, you dont have to fix those unless you really want to

).

3. Picture Entities bug

Now in all seriousness gj. Really tried to still find something but map is already pretty much perfect!

Thank you for those advices. I dont have an eye for this, cause I am a bit colourblind. Really helps me out when you take a look over it 🙂 also thanks to

❤️

So I think this is it

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best map ever releasing?!?!?!?

:O

sybau

took a final look and found a missing kill tile

ahh shit

Added the killtile. If it will be updated, it would be nice, if not then idk 😄 Its still ok i guess

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your map has just been released, and you now have a 2-week grace period to identify and resolve any unnoticed bugs or skips. After these two weeks, only design and quality of life (QoL) fixes will be allowed, provided they don't impact the leaderboard rankings. Be aware that significant gameplay changes may impact and lead to the removal of ranks. Good luck with your map!

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/420565311863914496/1388188472086626525 aint he called Nyu tho?

it is Nyu

This will be in Stormas iceberg in a few years Btw when Yeyou 7 bit Nit?

Yo just few things i noticed when playing that could be improved on a potential next map, apart from that the map is really creative and good: This start section is pretty hard for 95% of the players and i see a lot of struggle already there xd And it could be a bit more narrow Hammerhit or some more variation maybe. Often its 3-6 tile deep freeze down and a lot of free space. (Its just my personal preference)

yeah teh start is too faily

should be failier later than at start imo

becasue starting in teams is annoying

i guess the entire map is faily

starting in 20+ tees team runs is always annoying on hh maps, wouldnt say its the maps fault

yeah true

kinda similar to sus2 i guess, both ass for big teams at start

idk you have a lot of killtiles and holes here in the beginning. Its just a feeling when i played t0/ big team

The map is 3 insane, the free space on some places could've been narrowed down I agree, but it's hard to actually get it just right* without actually having 20+ people to test your map

I enjoyed the tight hammer hit, better than bit3's which is just open space everywhere to me

But this is all personal preference of course 🙂

Didn't seem that bad to me. Maybe if it was brutal but it's insane for a reason!

you are the better tester, when new map ?

I totally agree. I dont know if I can still change a few things to make the beginning a bit more chill. Is it possible to still change some things?

you're in your 2 week period, yes you can :p

ahh okay

but keep in mind it may or may not affect existing ranks i.e if you make things easier/harder shorter/longer existing ranks may be affected

but afaik no legit player has yet finished? :p

ye

i understand

but while I played it yesterday and while i was watching ppl playing it i noticed some things that I would like to change. Testing the map on Testservers and playing the map public is sooooo different. Thats crazy

Like filler parts where I had no idea that ppl would struggle with it are completely hard xD

xD yeah i imagined the gores to be on the harder side but a few fillers were super interesting to see :D

Nyu keep in mind that this was just the release day

Most players didnt know the parts etc

I dont thinkt that its necessary to change any parts atm

And a 3* insane map can also have some punishing parts

the swing?

But the first part was already a mess. Cause its so faily

Yea the two swings

I worked on it the last 1 hour and made it a bit more easier / less failier

I think its important that you start a map and DONT die again and again at the first part

i honestly think its fine for a 3* insane map

(the swing)

Hm i mean up to you but i wouldnt nerf to much

I didnt nerfed many things yet. I just made the first swing less failier and lowered some freeze at some parts of the map. Sometimes the high freeze killed the whole team at a relatively easy filler

i didnt changed any parts itself

Can you show screenshot about what you changed? Im just curious

Sure

Was war nochmal die Taste für Screenshot? xD

F10 xddd

easy danke

Can also check in settings - controls

ah true

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let me know what you think of this. For the "flow" I think the changes i made for the first parts are good

if you have another opinion or advices let me know

I just noticed that ppl struggled with those things

Yo, I didnt want to pressure you to change things🙈 But changes looking good imo

I wanted to change some things 20 minutes after release 😄 So dont worry

i dont think the last 2 changes are necessery (where you lower freeze for hh) but the rest are good

Yea maybe you are right. Should i changed it back?

if you already uploaded it i think its fine xd

Alright

I suck at mapping :c Tried in the past and was never really happy with my maps. Also looking at wrong spike colors didn't help me at improving xD (sry for offtopic)

I agree with iku, last two changes are a bit overkill, nerfed that one part (faily hf) from insane 3 down to brutal 1 xd

But overall good changes

make this thicker so its not just an aled part

Good changes to the start 👍🏻

agree

w changes

Maybe you want to consider the feedback? (https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1381789982586310796/1388482379471126608 / https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1381789982586310796/1388520810414870618) If you are happy with a version let us know so we can optimize again.

Im Fine with it

Lets Go

I understand but I still think ist okay for the second „Part“

Doesent affect it too much, cause the other way of the „part“ is also Not very hard, it just costs time

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Should I upload this one?

yesss

but its much more effort than actual tester as u can see, not even such simple easy things were pointed out 😄 long time in testing and not even one complete test

Yes, please.

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Let me know what you think of it

this spike seems awful

im 99% sure u can hit it with any amount of speed

its just becomes less common with higher speeds

Agree with IKU

Is skipping whole part with hh even possible? Or is it just to get more right?

should this be fixed too? looks like they did everything right

they hit the unfreeze tile and held space+a

should prob also ask to remove the block u died on yesterday with me where u swapped with baumwolle maybe

Ouh yea, lemme fix this

Oh really? I tried it this night so often, but I will check it.

Ye is possible. But I will fix it

remove this block maybe or make it saveable

took 3 tries

ye troll tile

Ok wow 😂

Then I was just lucky while trying this

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nice 😄

Im done now T.T

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I assume all screenshots meant to say 'can't' ?

Was wondering as well.

is crazy

hahahahahha

my fckin weed brain

fckin swimming

yep ofc 😄

1st part

for real it feels like the map is so big, with every save there are new fails xD

just be more tedious with your gameplay changes

make sure to place design

You are right, I'm a bit sleepy in those things @.@

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^ Checked and approved changes

👍 Don't forget to optimize!

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I was asked to approve it ad hoc, the version is unfortunately already online 😅

wtf

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Its a never ending story with me. Im so sorry for this

thank you

Im never gonna map again xD

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@prince

noooooooooooo

Best hh map since Aincrad

The current map size is 2000 KB, and the optimized version is 1700 KB. If I upload the optimized map, people will have to redownload it, but instead of saving 300 KB, they’d actually be downloading an extra 1400 KB. 😄

Oh nevermind, map fixes too, Ignore the above

to upload or not to upload

you'd save 300kb for everyone not having downloaded it yet. which is probably >50%

Makes sense, except it doesn't, we can't measure a ever growing playerbase, so your >50% becomes infinite 😄

So we're both wrong!

nope. if we have a growing playerbase then say 800 (50% at this moment of time) people have already downloaded it and infinite players haven't

so you save infinite kb of bandwidth by switching to the optimized version

^ from tater

I'm saying you can't quantify a playerbase with an arbitrary number or a percentage in this context

(Btw, even if you were able to quantify our playerbase, we'd break even if 85% of the player base hasn't downloaded the map yet, only then it would make sense to reupload the optimized map)