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Add time cps

It's not possible to touch the back.

It would be more convenient if the tee were already positioned on the left, instead of having to go underneath, line up, and only then hit the tee.

This is death

This map bothers me because the parts are so short

Can someone explain me why, on ALL submissions, this message is here

yes but why they all forget ?

yes xD

Well, people tend to forget things, and mappers devote all their time to gameplay and design, and such little things are simply forgotten in the process

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Peeeenis map

some problem?

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1. Some parts have become cleaner and more understandable.
2. Deadly corners have been removed.
3. Bug fixes.

1. Skip fixes.
2. Design fixes.

Personally, when i play drag maps, it's usually with another friend in 'chill + chat' session

so it's annoying when dragee has to un-afk to do simple hooks like this. I would just remove this move.

I'd also rework this. No need to make it faily if the top guy lags.

put tele12 a bit above the ground + add a speeder

ending here feels weirdly spaced

it would be nice to be able to hold hook out of the right hookthru

put arrow in entities + in design for parts like this. (one earlier too)

plz put the laser outside of wall here

1. Add arrows.
2. Change 6 part.
3. Change 8 part.
4. First hook more understandable on 9 part.
5. Hammer on 4 part become better.

1. Remove stoppers from all parts.
2. QoL changes.

Small changes:

1. Back is easier.
2. Wall is now flat.
3. Remove tp.
4. 1 HT instead 2

not a bad map, but the parts are so short and simple, i don't see much creativity and anything new, there is no way it meets the new "barren style maps" standard, or maybe it doesn't matter because it's moderate? would be a great map if there were at least some fillers between the parts but apparently no one cares

1. 5 part was a harder.
2. A little change ending in 12 part.
3. More comfortable hook in 14 part.
4. Also comfortable hook in 16 part.
5. Double nade in last part.

1. Add 1 part.
2. Balance changes.

the kbs 💀

this setup for the diagonal bug does not give any value gameplay-wise and i think it would be confusing for some players

also i would add some black shadow from below to make it clear that its a death

because the color transition is too plain it feels as platforms

tweaking a bit the color and opacity but you get the idea

useless back

It is impossible to climb onto the upper platform with the hook held down

I find it strange to use hammer jumps (an advanced technique) on the first two parts and then forget about them for the rest of the map, and this is a kind of unbalanced because the next parts are much easier

This back is also kind of useless

It's better to remove these tp, otherwise dummy often flies into them even when the part was do correctly, and in general, the beginning of the part, I think, is too confusing for moderate

another useless back

It's a small thing, but I think it's better to put a tp here so that it's immediately clear what to do, otherwise I got a little confused at the beginning on this part

It's better to make more space for throwing dummy, otherwise it's quite difficult for moderate now and there is often not enough height

In my opinion, the last 4 parts with the grenade are much more difficult than the others, especially the second to last one

miniskip probably

very good map

I disagree, with that. I didn’t have any problem with understanding the part and I think it’s more fun if you have to think about it a bit. But each has their own little preferences I guess.

I also didn’t like this first climb. ^^

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1496157334341292222/1496233915638349926 Seems like you ignored or forgot some feedback here. Would be great if you move all the weapons so that they are visible.

turn off entities sign could be placed a bit higher

idk why cto marked as cp xd, seems a bit misleading

x: 63 y: 113

x: 93 y: 165

x: 69 y: 239

x: 91 y: 260

x: 107 y: 273

x: 109 y: 410

grass, Bush and FrontBush layers should be marked hd

uhm, then you should extend the BehindBush layer to the map boundaries

Whats ur name ingame?

1. Remove 3 back.
2. Design fixes.
3. Skip fixes.

1. Design fixes.
2. Bug fixes.

1. Skip fix.
2. Finish higher.

govno ebanoe

1. Corner fixes

hello the spawn blocks need be at least one block of high

and here can add some indicator of laser obtained imaggine if any play with autoswitch weapon and dont see what weaponds have

1. Spawn block higher. 2-4. All weapons are visible.

Good map, i found a few things that might be changed:

I can't read the logo

Move this shotgun more down so it's easier to see that you got a weapon

This section felt quite hard and unbalanced compared to the other parts. Nerfing it would be nice.

This section was really hard to understand for me. Maybe removing it would be better (or changing it somehow). It also looks like the other player is supposed to use grenade.

I wouldn't make this too faily, because with a small lag you can die here. Also, since the design is in front of the player, it's hard to see your tee when you fall down (so it's hard to recover from down here without entities).

you can reduce the map size if you want

should

Hey, some things from me as well:

1. One more hookthrough here would be great. (CP 7)
2. Same here. (CP 19)
3. Here as well. (CP 23)
4. I think it would be better to remove all hookable inside the parts since you barely use them and don't actually need them. (CP 10)
5. Going full speed here you often are already past the hookthroguh. Extending it by one or two tiles would be great. (CP 19)
6. It's possible to hook the other tee too high into the tele which is a bit annoying. Would be nice if you can move it up a little more. (CP 26)
7. This is the only part where you kind of break the flow by having to full stop. I added a suggestion at

(also CP 26)

8. ^
9. Read

about all hookables inside the parts being kind of unnecessary.

10. ^

1. Corners fix.
2. Change size.
3. TP under finish.
4. Last descent has been slightly changed.
5. Remove all hookable block(except start).
6. More HT on some parts. 7-8. Little part changes.

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1. Unhook behind hookthrough, making it impossible to see the laser. I would also add a hookthrough on the corner in the middle of the screenshot since you have that everywhere else.
2. I still dislike this as well. I don't think it's a good part and doesn't really fit in my opinion. Please rework it a bit, just a simple drop would be good enough.
3. Weapons I think you already fixed.
4. ^
5. ^
6. Change the

of the 'Game' layer to ~120 to fit the size of your map.

7. Same with 'BehindBush' also to ~120 please.
8. Some of the 'FrontBush' is missing here.

1. Added 1 HT.
2. Changed last descent.
3. Fixed weapons. 4-5. Changed size.
4. Fixed tiles.

1. TP fix

1. Fixed HT.
2. Changed pixel jump.

3. Removed some blocks.

played the map, cool map! but some parts feel tight af for me

• u can skip laser (idk if its that useful)

on this part the dummy some times dosent go into the hole, u have to release a bit early and imop feels kinda unconfutable

this one feels kinda tigth without double nade

i realised that it works with a proper rocketjump timing

you have to rj instantly after hooking then the timing should work out, it's close yes

fair poits

im just nobo

but overall map its rlly cool i love this drag style maps (without fillers)

1. Little changes on last part.

1-3. Skip fixes. 4-7. Made more understandable moments.

6. Freeze 2s -> 1s.
7. Last part a little easier.

1. Added back.
2. More space.
3. Removed 1 TP.

1. this just was weird. felt meh, It would be nice if you came up with something else there.
2. passed the hammer by a small margin. would be nice if you fould lower the teles by 1-2 tiles.
3. this part is alot harder than the others and very tight. I like the concept but you need to nerf it a bit.
4. this part is very tight and got no flow. you should rework this part completely or keep mechanics but make some room.
5. this hook is very tight but cool concept.
6. this 2 hooks are very tight.
7. I dont get this segment to work.
8. very tight hook
9. also very tight

in general this map is cool but very tight. imo you should take every part and rework them to give more space, to get a better flow. look on some new drag maps to get a better understanding of what makes a map tight and what makes a part good. every concept of your parts is very solid, just need tweakings in flow

to get a better understanding on what I mean.

this is a part with good flow and alot of space to move around

pretty sure he made that as well :D but yeah, a lot of space is needed

The ghost helped me and this is what changed:

1. Better hook.
2. Added back. 3-4. A little easier. 5-7. Platform will removed.
3. Added 1 HT.
4. A little easier.

can take a look ^^. we can go through the map together if you want. easier to point stuff out than messaging

i understood what you meant, but some points seemed meaningless to me

1. Removed marks 1s-2s freeze.
2. Fix corners.

Yeah, but it's important that the flow is consistent and smooth, without too much stop-and-go movement or interruptions.

and with alot of space to move around or it become a ddmax/oldschool

I think it's pretty close to being ready.

1. Maybe move this down a bit since it can be quite close.
2. Similar to here, could move the hammer spot up a bit like PRO_Gaming1921 mentioned.
3. Moving the hookthrough more to the right or adding more hookthrough would improve the flow here.
   • I think if you line up all these drops with the to tele below it would improve the gameplay.

1. Small change in 2 part. 2-5. All descents lead to a CP. 6-8. Some block slightly shifted.

1. Bug fixes.
2. Corner fixes. 2-3. Add arrows.

1-2. A bit change hook and wall.

3. Added arrows in entities.
4. Roof 1 block higher.
5. TP -> UH. 6-7. Added/Removed some blocks.

maybe have a more intressting way to go down here

hey just a little detail: the one in blue i think it should also be like the ones in red, and that would make the wall in image 2 look better

this hook to get him up is a bit tight for me anyways

also here and there. that way all parts will look the same :D

and this is very subjective but if you make this square i think it will look better, and also, will look more similar to the other parts :D

you can only do this part if you rehook when the dummy is next to you. maybe indicate that more or make it forsable so you cant just run <<

maybe lower this a bit. seems tight

i never rehooked here

fr?

in general I see this map finished(with some minor tweakins). I also think I did some parts wrong before, hehe

1-3. Walls have improved.

ending felt a bit abrupt if you do want this instead of giving the other tee cp 39 place another cp and put it here so if you fail the fly dont need to walk all the way to end of part

1. TP 4 on finish.
2. Number TP clearer.
3. Design fixes.

1. Marked 4 TP.

Ghost says to me remove TP 4 and fix corners.

Fun map.

agreed

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Hey! as a suggestion maybe you could use "sv_no_weak_hook" since it will make a smoother playthrough for everyone

i'd put a back after the cp 39 or fix in someway the last part above

why would you ask, is very likely that faster/better players do the same way as i did here. They'll drop the dummy and do a quick rocket up (2) and the dummy will follow (1) insted of (3)

it seems that you regret the fix that you did about what

said. I would suggest to do something different but on the same path

ofc do the fix as you please

did they finally allow it?

use "turn off entities" signs every time this happens pls (when you give Gus), in some point i started to uste entities and didnt know how to do the part and found out i needed shotgun

i was told, is not supported yet 🙁

If you do the part the intended way, there's a chance that the player passing the other tee to the next section releases the hook too early, causing them to fail completely. I don't think that's a good way to die, although I'm not sure what the others think, since it's ultimately more of a player mistake than an issue with how the part is designed

if you look at the 2 sections before, you first pass the other tee first and then you put through something

besides mentioned i believe is a nice map, fit to release

1. Added back and grass.
2. Marked weapons.
3. Changed last sg.
4. Added 1 block.

1. Bug fix.

1. Changed last sg.
2. Removed rectangle.
3. Moved little up.

1. Bug fix.

1. Small changes.

1. Design fixes.

1. Changed logo.

1. Replace logo.

1. Added animation.

better :3

I'd suggest removing the entities off signs, ready for me besides that (tested with

, thanks!)

the other one was like a puzzle to figure out where each letter was lol :D

1-3. Changed weapons placement.

game assets looks so good can u send to dm pls :)

Any opinions on the weapon placement being upside-down? Personally I dislike it as it just doesn't look right to me so hence the question

I feel like is more cleaner to show it like this

Yeah maybe looks a bit weird but at the same time I don't think it matters.

i think it looks cool, it makes a difference and that's always good :D.

I think its just what you used to. Wouldn't it look weirder if it clipped through the wall

?

teles here so you can b fast

I still feel like this hook and grenade is really tight. and even more tight with weak hook

1. Bug fixes.

it's equally fast to go around

use nade

To me is ready

this took me like thrice the time of any other part too

logo is not centered (as the entities off design)

you have marked the ctos like CP but they are not. To me is an unnecessary thing to mark, but if you like it change the "CP" thing

i would move the shiled some tiles up just in case the player above shoots, and it has to restart all the thing again

there are a lot of this empty spaces, and i think it doesnt look good. Tho is up to you

small design bugs

you'll have to check for this things, since the fault is the autorule for sure

some more also I'm not entirely sure about orange, it looks ok to me but it's essentially bugged based on the tileset

Not equal, feel like the b will be faster and smoother but thats completely my opinion :D

I mean you never go close to a wall there, so it's pretty much the same, you would probably lose more time by having to walk all the way left than you would gain from tele

But when you hook the guy you get speed to the right?

you roughly hang out in this area, doesn't matter if you jump to the left and hook from afar, or if you jump into tele and walk all the way left from tele 15

1-2. Visual changes.

3. Bug fixes.

Yeah but when you are down there and misses the hook. You need to walk backwards jump and move forward. Instead of just walk forward and jump in

. Thats my opinion and its so little nitpick that it doesnt matter. If mapper want to change he can^^

1. Bug fixes.

Corner bug at the start

Couldn't find anything else

1. Bug fixes

it seems like you removed the credits from some tilesets, which is not cool considering this is a game that lives from work from the community, if you used patigas tool, place the credits into your map before applying (they don't have to be visible) it so the tool doesn't delete the credits

not sure about "generic_lot3_edit", is it from you?

I don't know about the "start" and "generic" credits because a friend of mine set them up, but I can revert the credits only to "tiles1".

1. Tileset fixes.

This isn’t my tileset, but there were no credits here. I think it's Themix tileset

ohh alright!

something seems broken here with the bot I set it to r4r again and it's marked as such but there is no new bot message for it (relevant cuz I rated it as 4* and probably just a bug in general)

any preferred date/time for release?

I would prefer July 15th

at any time

k

decent map

fire map

Horse map.

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map.