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original name, why not 5 minutes?

Cause its the concept of the map

I would like to play on it, but now I can't, but I see in the photo that there is already 1 aled on your map (maybe more I didn't look at it completely). This is not good

try not to add KoG, especially in 2 titles, we wanna play ddnet

a lot of unused space

Well i can change it to 3 tiles but i think a lot of maps have Gores parts and its only 1 part

yes, it is better to avoid using KoG parts on your map

I think I'll send more feedback later when I get to play it.

idk if I'd call a 2 space pass through "kog" necessarily, didn't look at the whole part though if there's like a lot more then oop

plenty of great maps have small hook parts like that

Gores parts are fine in maps unless a whole map is gores then u might aswell send the map to them xd

that, u said it better than me thank you lol

xD

Okay what about this

xD if you wanna call it gores. I mean then its 2 parts still okay imo

I don't wanna, I say it well

Put them below, and make them more

OMG

would've been perfect opportunity to use the super cool quad cutting tool

the glaze1 image is really not visible, a simple dot would be just the same xd

otherwise make it bigger or sth

im not a big fan of the 4min concept, but the gameplay itself looks pretty good 👍

okay, I will fix that soon. And I believe there is still no map with time limit or? So I thought the idea is quite exciting.

i think a big time limit like 4min is frustrating

cuz imagine u do map in 4min 2 sec and habe to start over again

as in, a time limit for the whole map is not fun imo

but for individual parts it could be fun

4 min time limit is basically the same as having the last part faily with kill tiles so i dont see a problem here

Restarting far into the map ia nothing new

maybe try to make it a bit different

when looking at the map i had an idea, mapping a longer map and build in finish lines with doors again and again, if you are fast enough you can reach the finish quickly, if you are slow you get one of the next doors. with this map you could maybe build in 2-3 doors and one finish at the end without door

was thinking this too

Thank you for the feedback. Well i can change it, the multiple door idea is good i have some concepts in mind. I was just thinking , as Gazebr brought up. There are also very long maps that have faily parts 2 hours in and this map is pretty short itself. But ye you have a better sense for that 😄

like whats the point of the time limit if you can just speedrun the map without the time limit

its a noobfilter

https://tenor.com/view/drake-clap-drake-clap-drake-meme-nba-gif-23631290

instant release

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-my-honest-reaction-gif-25652576

-Changed/added 2 parts

• changed ending so speedrunner have a little advantage, everyone else can deactivate door with a little extra part ( i don't know if this is perfect but that came in my mind - i can delete the door and change map name also if its wanted, if the map has any chance of being released gameplay wise)
• fixed missing freeze
• used quad cutting tool and changed clockhands 🙂
• didn't change glaze1 yet (if its the same why change?)

Well idea was to put player under pressure to do the parts fast. But ye i see the points from all of you xD.

Hi, I have discarded my idea of 4 minutes. So I changed the design a bit and added some parts. Can the map name be changed to "Under Pressure"?

$change name "Under Pressure"

every diamond in my chain is a milestone

Unused envelope

It looks like the map could go down to 400-500 kB

The door at the end is kind of awkward, you can even fail if the tee you threw falls back on an edge

I'll test the gameplay tomorrow

$waiting

You can already optimize your map

Yes, i fix this until evening. You can dm me if you test it 🙂

👍

-Changed ending

• changed robot(Iam still not 100%happy, just learning how to design models) -all envelopes used now
• got file size a bit down

I just have time until 5pm today for potential testing 😦 maybe tomorrow

fixed a skip

corner

wrong corner

• fixed corners(ty PapotaV)
• added 2 platforms

Pushing down on me

map is simple to understand and challenging, i enjoyed testing it

no idea if you can get a better bounce here and skip 4-5 parts

here you can keep the laser and skip some parts later (but I didnt try them this way so idk if it would be faster)

Thank you for testing 🙂 I fix the laser skip, bounce skip shouldnt work(I tryed it 20 times and not nearly reached unfreeze)

-Fixed 3 skips -made 1 part more comfortable to play

Are you available ?

Design bugs

1 jump refill should be enough

Time cps should be in the freeze too just in case

No glow here

No glow

No glow on hookable and unhookable

Talked to

in-game

$waiting

Reminded : should be about 2*

• changed design again
• hopefully fixed all designbugs you mentioned
• reduced file size to 500kb

Why 2 rockets

You can swap them in-game

Also export them in white so it weighs less

Same for the logo

It could all be 1 single image

Do you really need all those tiles ?

Same here

The 3 rockets could only be 1 image

I mean not 3 rockets in 1 but only 1 rocket that you slice in-game

To remove the trail

Sync all the envelopes if you want everyone to see the same thing at the same time

Ok, tutorial time :

1. Download Inkscape

2. Ctrl+shift+d then change as shown

3. Made a grid

4. Import the image you want to edit

5. Align it to the page (Ctrl+Shift+A or as showed). Click the image then ...

6. Creating a mask. First click on the snap tool (the shortcut is %)

7. Create rectangles on what you want to keep

8. Select all the rectangles then fusion them (Ctrl+ + (the + symbol) or as showed on the 2nd image)

9. Select both your image and the mask. Afterward, create the clip

10. You now have your final image

11. Export it (Ctrl+Shift+E or as showed)

12. Place the image in your

13. Bonus. If the image you are trying to edit is white, change the color of the background of the project (Ctrl+Shift+D) https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1088232845652263023/1103682606035386420

End of the tutorial

Leave the alpha channel at 0 otherwise the color will be rendered. Right now, with 70 in Value (V), you have a light grey that won't be exported with your image

$waiting

Thank you for the feedback, i will fix it later. And thank you for the tutorial, i would never find that out by myself 😄

👍

• changed logo
• changed all the tilesets
• i reduced rocket images to 2 ( need help to reduce to 1)
• reduced the overall mapsize to 300kb
• learned a lot about the editor and Inkscape today xD

• fixed 1 more skip
• changed rocket colors to make it look more smooth
• changed tee in rocket

The tee is a bit small

The hammer is transparent

• removed unused images
• added rockets
• changed hookthrough Hopefully everything is good now

I was thinking if we should had a "2 player map" sign

But the start is right at the spawn

The map looks good to go

$ready 2

Thank you for testing. Learned a lot last days!

You are welcome 😄

theres a pretty easy deep cheat (idk if u already know/care) not that much of a time difference, still easily doable

Tbh i didnt think about that. I will fix it, skip is too big. Thank you

Tell the players to be careful below. At first, not knowing that there is no platform from below, I died.

or make a platform from below idk

$reset

$waiting

Okay like this?

yea that should work

$ready 2

🤔

Yo i just found 1 more visual bug and fixed a little skip. Iam so sorry xD

Could you show me where?

The bug occurred after a fix (blocker visual which I had checked twice before)

Like that

$ready 2

nice tut =] please go forward with it make a pdf version or ddnetwiki version please think about it and each time a mapper with 1mb+ map with useless stuff comes in a tester could drop a link or something =] rly please think about ^^

👍

I wanted to make a few short videos to explain how to do those

nothing important but in my opinion this three (cp1, cp4 and cp7 - comparing to whole map) are wrong and the last one is correct (my opinion)

Thank you! Well i take a look at it later and consider changing it

u forgot to set the animations HD

and logo is HD rn, u can remove HD for logos

this part can be done without laser, and with laser u can cheat it

feels a bit useless to grab laser for just 1 shot

part feels a bit useless bcs u can go left

this part can be done in different more safe way, idk if u know it or want to fix it

feels a bit lame that u dont even need timing there, u can just hook from refill

part cheatable, i marked red and blue what each player does

idk if its faster but u can skip both deep's

maybe u overlooked this too, u can take ninja and go solo there

ofc makes only sens if u use the other skip too

i would make this 3 tiles longer, looks cheatable but hard

$optimize

the empty space in all layers was 6kib

take this version

I will change it tomorrow. Thanks for your feedback

prepare for new map versions

hahaha sadly im not home till tomorrw

can u update the map version before release on Django?

Done

He still editing btw

Should check channels b4 rls

why is the channel state set to ready if the map ain't ready?

@mention me if you upload a new release candidate

Ye i try to fix it after university today and if coke is fine with the changes i will mention you

Bcs it's humanity that u overlook things

Changed the parts you mentioned, added tsin's design tips

lol u just removed the whole part xd

but ok

im also not sure if its 2 or 3*

$ready 2

I thought its better to just make it new haha

Imo 3 Star

Cant vote it yet

It's not 6pm yet either

Uuuuuuh, is the map supposed to release at 6pm or 3pm? On django it says 6pm

On "Map-releases" its dated for 3pm thats why i wondered 😄

weekends 3pm week 6pm i guess

Want me to release it now?

or keep it at 6pm? ^^

seeend it

Well what fits you better 😄

Let's release it now then

kk

okey well, in 10 minutes

yes 3pm, my fault

thanks for taking care of it

2* seems odd

it is

I would imagine even a 3* would have a finish by now though no?

map hard compared to other 2*

Map could've been a 4 or 5

I think 4* is good

5 teams finished in 3 days

average 2* map

i havent played it yet

We didn't

i played the map and is 4 star

a lot of team locked maps do get almost no finishes

i would consider this being 3 but not a 4

it's 4*

Thoughts about rerating this to 5 stars? If I compare this map with Exhale, they're both equally as difficult

isnt exhale longer though

It is but only slightly, and not team-locked

On exhale if u fall you might have a chance to continue but on this you are dead

Insane 1 or 2 then ?

Insane 5

ddmax.next 2

insane? no way

its just that many good players have stopped playing/dont play atm/ dont care about this map. insane is definitely too high just cause of low finish rate

Extreme 1 ?

extreme 3 stars actually

not even ddrock was able to put out a extreme 3*