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welcome back i guess

lost 1 freeze

unfreeze please and make 1 block higher, if possible please also consider make it more space

for those hookthrough you may also consider to let it have border for more easy to have a look

like how you did here

same for these tele 1block higher

to avoid this kind of bounce

make unfreeze longer

please make sure all totele you put unfreeze

also consider to put unsolo here, cant save other tee if get in too early

border

nice map but, there are a lot of unfreezes missing

i would say on the noobfilter but i think that one is intentional

here would be appreciated to have unfreeze

there too, and as cheeser said, put the toteles one block higher

unfreeze here too

not really necessary but it would feel better and quicker

maybe add the jetpack remove tile

so people that backtrack don't have it easier

resulting in shorter times being achieved this way

not even need to get up there

most of the totele he didnt put unfreeze inside

and also if you targeting the low level novice player to play this map, try to think about what skill is annoying(gay) for them. from my view, your map got wall hammer and long range freeze swing (low level player need more play to know how swing and speed mechanism work) skill is not suitable imo.

idk maybe you can make that freeze swing shorter

true, map took me around 15 minutes (i'm bad heh) but it still felt kinda short, maybe making the jetpack part a bit longer would be just right

this map feels kinda... inconsistent with the difficulty, not too inconsistent but just enough where it doesn't feel right

overall, this map slaps, i really enjoyed playing it

it just needs a bit of polishing

ok,thank you for your advice,i got the weakness of this map ,and need to improve it

add the blocks‘border,and put unfreeze into the totele ,reduced the difficulty and extended the map so it is longer

hell yeah!

that's what i'm talking about

now this feels like a releasable map

that last part was fire

now, i don't wanna sound picky

but

maybe unfreeze there and it's done

this really feels like a complete map, if you want to add more go ahead but in this current state it's a nice map

still more can be improve imo

true

it's that i don't wanna feel picky heh

this map still feel squeeze, hard to understand when spec before run

i mean when you zoom out, it really like a maze

in my honest opinion, it feels draggy and slow at the start but the more you play it's actually a pretty fun and interesting map

yeah like, some parts at first glance are confusing

once you get there you understand it quite easily

both have cool ideas, but are bad mapped, with too much space in some parts and in others aren't, as it is isn't releasable, you could make another map with the cool parts, also try to improve the cool parts

dont make noobfilters in novices maps that is why are novice

should be on the back of the tee

if u make this part more simpler could fit on novice

make that a lot bigger, not just the part if not the whole site

if you are going to use deep make it as simple as possible, in this case better delete it

also that part is overused, a bunch of novice maps have the same movement

not fun to play

cool idea, butt needs more space

red: u can cheat the part yellow: you can hook a player making the part annoying

not need for that big space you can just swing him to the unfreeze, think how you can prevent that

jp solo imo felt boring

cool part, again need a lot of space

this skip imo its ok for novice map, player upper can just hook and drag to left unfreeze down tee, then down tee swing himself

1.- it's nicer if u do this types of parts as HT, prevents stupid death, like hooks errors 2.- this part doesn't fit at the end of the map

overall as i said there are some cool parts,the design is not good, parts felt quite tight, I dont really think u will manage to fix all of the stuffs, so better start a new map from scratch with the cool parts

This time we make a map for the last time, no matter what, we will release it as much as possible.

So we will modify it as much as possible.

In addition Arrow You are really a very good and strict player. But do you want to think about what we think most of the time? We'll fix most of your questions.

It is expected to finish at 6: 00 tomorrow evening or sooner.

$waiting

Or later.

We've taken your advice and are working on a new picture. There may be no problem this time. XD

what time zone

I'm sorry, everyone, because we have to modify too much, so the revised version of the map will be issued at 8: 00 p. M. Beijing time tomorrow. Please understand.

I know I'll let a lot of people down, but there's nothing I can do about it.

We have not only modified the level, but also modified the logo. The finished product definitely does not have as many bug as before, at least the map is not crowded with XD.

take your time no need rush

theyll wait

a new map

impossible part

layer size much bigger than map size

way too much kb for this empty map, delete the image 1 and add a normal colored background xd

unfreeze

ok

can just jump without hook

fix please

OK

You can pull back from the left and try again.

k

literally fails: "fix please"

im blind XD

for most of the time

XD

use novice brain to test novice map XD

Nothing

extend unfreeze incase they hold the hook

okok

make it higher

I really didn't notice this.XD

unfreeze here?

it could be as a skip

for speedrunners

texture error

instead of making it higher, remove freeze there

any of the 2 solutions would work

the ol' fake unfreeze that coke pointed out

solid map

both should think in do a better desing in general

ok,but i want to konw is it importan to design a theme,if only changing a normal bg,could it pass

What do you think the map is missing?

change a background

start

In addition, just also modified the question raised by NouKex.

I think we are $ready

testers havent even commented on this yet, dont get ur hopes up xd

tbh not that fast

OKOK

the testers have to roll u into a ball and kick u across the room, then take turns trying to score goals on each other.

it is a very customary and traditional thing, but be patient

So it will take more than a month at the earliest?

someone will test it eventually

'' one day.''

XD

remember that like mods, testers have lives

ok

imagine having a life

did a couple runs, searched for texture errors or missing blocks and stuff and found nothing wrong

it seems that this map is ready, we'll have to wait for testers now

skip

opinion: unfreeze there would be better

skip

corner

forget to post this xd

bug

Uh?

bug

Isnt necessary a theme thats up to you, but, a theme should help a lot tho, you could improve it a lot, just feels empty,

Make the stars smaller because looks blurry also add them a para x, maybe add some clouds

As Coke said the map still have lot of weight for what the map is

Spawn is way to dar from the start

novice maps needs larger spaces its fine

imo the speeders makes it a bad part

ehhh is it just me or is this logo very aliased

i just looked in map viewer tho not ing

if you did blur+sharpen it might be a little more normal looking

or glow effect idk

We are revising some things such as logo, and we will try to keep him as close to the meng as possible.

new logos

In fact, we are still perfecting this picture, at least to make things like "fall asleep", "go into a dream", "wake up" and so on. IDK

$change name "Meng 1"

ddnet_walls_rounded Can you lend it to me?

do you want the .png?

nonono Just asking.

I want to use this map in the map.

yeah you can use it anywhere you want

its free to use

Thank you very much.

new

the map isn't in the test server

We are modifying the map

no he mean this map cant be vote

in test server

i said it to the mapper

post the new map file with new name

its now on the test servers

1.- down that like 2-3 tiles 2.-put a block there

1.-would be cool if u change this transition because is not good 2.- a lil cheat just to mention

you can just throw trough the freeze, this cheat should be fixed

maybe add indicators (like an arrow or smth) here because novice players could just fall in (2) without helping the other player, or replace that top spot (3) to not make it confusing

delete

the hook colour imo its quite bad it doesn't match with the bg

no

`

Ah lol

just in case you guys didnt know, 梦(meng) means dream

xd

cloud should be behind imo

"turn off entities"

nice part

the design looks ok but those rotated stuffs are weird imo

• rotated doodads

intentional?

here too

$change name "SeMang 1"

Preview of SeMang

$waiting everyone

We are in the process of revising. Please wait a few days.

😦

Have a nice day. everybody Even though we're already at night, XD.

$waiting

We are modifying the connection problem of the map.

plz $waiting a span

delete endless hook and unlimited jump

down 2 tiles

the last part

色盲还行

Dont spam entities off sing

automap index error?

*inser(t)key

maybe should manually change it to random

design error?

ok now im colorblind

gj

insertkey

fix

delete one entities off thing xd

毕竟我们不是第一次做地图了

Just is a little busy, so I have to fix it.

some design bugs

some stuff that could be changed

consider useing time checkpoints

fix

add some doodles

some time checkpoints

entitie bug

delete

same, check every tile that is unused, there are a few

1.- pls change that transition its not good 2.- delete

delete

u forgot freeze desing

maybe you want to add an entitites off sing here

deleted unused

fix

freeze desing

thats not how i meant it :o the 2x2 or 2x3 style of blocks was ok but one of it used 1x1 style which seemed wrong now it looks worse :/

ok,xd

ye looks better

don't bother posting stuff in walls, it doesn't matter and just spams channels

unfreeze marked like this would look way better in the other parts aswell ofcourse

that freeze is now very hard to see because of the bush behind it remove that bush

im unhappy with this if you do the part and go to quick in the hole on the right and not watch if the other tee even made it its fail and that in the last part would be very sad

i don't know how to fix it for now but im sure you can come up with something

you want that area to be like this now ?

unfreeze

the same problem

here add direction mark

same

waiting test

unfreeze fix

About design now, it is ok. I just have a problem between the stars and the moon. The moon should move more than the stars because it is closer to the tees, change the parallax and it will be ok. Make the clouds a bit more transparent, there are too bright in my opinion

why would you want him to change the best part of the map ?

but i agree that that many signs are not nice

I didn't say he needs to change it, just to remove signs. But if the part become to difficult for novice, changes will be needed, not necessary all of the part

remove signs and chang a little

cloud

moon para x

forget Detail now its Yes xd

:( i liked that the other tee had to help there

but its fine like this too

deleting bushes behind walls was not the best idea if you turn off quads it looks like this because the dirt part of gras_main is not flat

maybe one more hookthrough here so you don't walk into this hole

A lot of bushes were deleted. XD

Added a hookthrough

detete incompete bushes

Why doesn't anyone ask questions anymore?

so far no problem

so just be quite

xd

this part shows very well why checkpoints tele would be better in this map

if you pull him very far right in the freeze and than somehow end up failing back left in the tele its fail because you cant reach him anymore

so atleast this part should be remade with checkpoint tele so you always stay in the middle section once you get there

and it would be better to do the same for other parts i guess

if both tees somehow fall down there its very hard for normal novice players to get out of it

no idea how to make it easier without changeing the real part much :/

maybe you can come up with something

stopper and put a tele somewhere to let them able to get back if needed

sounds like bad lazy mapping to me

ofcourse you can do that or find a nicer way

or just leave it be i think its unlikely that both tees fall down at the same time

other way i guess just cp tele

fall down then go into cfrm

also easy change

already sounds better ye

add some cp tele

xd

this cp is for what situation

sneaky lol nice spotted

avoid one tee could be back if many tees are here ,but it seems impossible xd

nothing can go wrong if 1tee throw another 1back

might as well be normal tele again ? but whatever

hard for novice players to get out of this if both fall in

make it easier to get out

even suggest one more HT here if you hold A while you fall down and walk back into its fail

bugged bush

but i guess you would wanna redo all other cp to keep the order so let it stay

if you move that in the red box higher so you can hook in there from where the green circle is you could unfail it if somehow a tee ends up in there to early

or you know what just fix the bush that other thing is whatever

there are more spots like that

ok

check the bush bug

ok you still changed it nice

$optimize

$edit --shrink-layers

just some layer size fixes don't worry

$ready 5

good job with the fixes

thank you

congrats!

POV: you are colorblind

not sure if this is made intentionally

its just qed

xd

xd，it can fix now？

yes you can, but let tester know what you changed

ok，i will

i saw that too but mhh wasnt sure which you prefer

meeeh :(

more important use the latest version from here not your own

yes ，i use the latest version

good

btw for louis its lower case L

so louis not Louis

ok

freeze

delete "sssssss"

$ready 5

uhhhhhhhhhhh

why

i only commented on the logo, i didnt make this part

its just a shoutout

like wtf is my name here

yeah it's very confusing

please remove it

i didnt make anything for the map at all

ok seems like not everyone wants there name to be in the map

remove lynns name and mine too please not a big fan of it either

maybe asks others about it too how they feel about it

🤷‍♀️ unless they did that part i think it's silly

$reset

maybe u could do a list instead of putting the names in random places, bcs as lynn said it also could indicate that, that person did the part

same for cheeser0613 not C xd

actually i want to ask before

why someplace in freeze have grass stuff

but some no

if its intend then forget what i ask

since no one will notice this

i think its not because it was very rare somehow i missed a few ._.

like this place, looks a bit unnature

this unfreeze looks better imo

compare with those

i think redbox area that i point out should put tele, incase player never spec the map and didnt know need to wait and do second hook before go down

delete grass in freeze

and delete name

what i want to say is line between grass and freeze looks unnature but ok xd

It's too early, hahaha

Thanks to the players who tested Semang 1 🙂

$ready 5

$optimize

Thank you

are u guys chinese?

are u on GMT+8 timezone?

lol now i know why asian map all release on 3pm for your time

yes for them

yes

Yo