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corners

Corners are handled differently in these places, so please standardize them.

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what means?

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red:tiles yellow:useless

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Very nice map ,but why does that map look a bittle like.... ...Mint?

Cuz all new novice maps are almost the same

Don't tell the truth

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yea istg this is the most average novice ever please stop releasing maps Like this

im not a big fan of this map tbh. at the moment it feels like the difficulty level changes in the middle of the map - not drastically but noticeably. some parts are mapped for absolute beginners, some parts require a lot of attention for novice players, be it through failspots or reactions, etc. imo map should be more balanced

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mapper say waiting

@Wartoz waitings

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move down a bit

can skip if tee get enough speed

what is this stoppers for?

player can stuck here

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make both player use laser + narrow platform

u used this tile before

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there are entity bugs:

weird mark

Crazy test

weird game asset 💀

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good map (part-wise), but there are still many bugs

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make more space here

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entity bug

grass is bugged

bug

block which cut

corner bugs

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move the stopper mark to the middle

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gameplaywise map seems to be decent like i told you before but still nothing new or innovated (didnt looked for any bugs rn) designwise there is some improvement needed for sure

for instance... the start looks empty, there is nothing going on. it just looks boring

also your colors doesnt really match to me, the colors between background and grasmain/tilesets are a bit off

your logo is fine to me, but with a bit more creativity im sure you will come up with something good

let me show you how it could look like with a bit more detail and time playing around (for sure its not perfect, i did it in 10 minutes :D)

the small lamps are a bit more inviting, also the different gras layers and table

the logo is a bit more creative and will be noticed, also memorable

the moon is a bit bigger and replaced, also the colors have changed that they match eachother but everything is still separated while playing (so no one would get confused)

for sure there could be much more stuff you could fit into empty spaces like this, but its a bit more welcoming imo

lets talk about the gameplay a bit you should add unfreeze to every totele, no one wants to wait for getting unfreezed in novice maps 🙂

check your map again; there are still a few missing corners you didnt catch

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why map is so heavy jeez

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designwise it looks way better now! but there are still some changes needed:

• your logo doesnt match the color of the credits
• you used 2 different layers of the table (1 before startline, 1 after finish). one would be enough, just use another quad for it

your logo may not be perfect since i see some outlines, some stretched chains, weird star-like figures. but ig its fine for me as it is now

if u change something now, use this version

do you really need this whole tileset? as fas as i can see you only you this one block for ht

im pretty sure you dont even use 33% of this stuff

this tileset is almost 1mb holy

move the spawn i tile up

the map is way to heavy as

said pls optimize it

this hammer it might too hard for novice

here he can just jump in

no need for the ninja

make it easier for the player below to slide his partner

too close

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your channel is doomed

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xD

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There is a cooldown guys, you need to wait in betweeen commands

haha

thank you for your patience

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there is no chance for the mapper to see in every screenshot you posted what needs to be fixed, pls post them once at a time and describe the problem (or write it on the screenshot)

also dont post 9 screenshots in a 1 picture collage, if i would be the mapper, i wouldnt download them to zoom in, i would ignore them

i think he is just showing parts that he has done changes/bugfixes (he is the mapper)

i got it

im so stupid 🤣

Why hasn't there been any news for so long

design bug

is there any reason why not every unfreeze is marked? I was confused and noticed some tiles are marked, some are not, in the whole map. Do it in the whole map when you already did it once. It would be better anyway

This part is also confusing. New novice player wouldn't know that both need ninja and fail when one goes up and leaving the other behind. They gonna touch the shield pretty fast

All in all its a very pretty design and pretty small parts.

ah and idk about this no hammer zone. ye maybe when there are more ppl in t0 u will notice but for the parts hammer is not relevant at all

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this star looks scuffed

nouisstar ?

move timecps to cps

maybe totele like this ?

maybe could make little bit different part ( not long same short but just something little bit more interesting , then just hook left ) . maybe pic 2 ( but it's just idea )

1st player does two parts but other guy do only one hook jump part ? (make something more ) also 1st player 1st part is same as 2nd , but only in 2nd you have to hook at end again .

come on , you make better then this

cp one layer right ?

1st tee have to do a lot more then 2nd tee ( make more parts or longer part for 2nd tee )

same for this part ( but here the difference is not big , but i would make 2nd tee something more to do )

gaps

have made small animation for logo , ill send you in private the map ( very simple animation ) if you want to you add it .

anyways i like the map

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there is no tele

we are waiting for fixes ( if not busy )

ok

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gaps not fixed

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do this

instead of this

The map is a bit weird at the beginning you can see that is bad mapped, but if you keep playing the map gets a better structure xd

here i would use just 1 tile, the first part has have a characteristic which is has to be done fast

1. move the tele outside the freeze, and use 2 separated from eachother (with unfreeze ofc)
2. delete that
3. Move that a few tiles down
4. Move that a few tiles to the right

there is no reason for using cps on this map, so pls use normal tele for everything on the map

move this some tiles on that direction

make some orientation

Instead of stoppers you could use speeders so the part is novice friendly 🙂

The map is not perfect or unique, the gameplay is decent enough imo

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basic rule : when it's not needed dont put cp but normal tele

only this part need cp change all the others + on the right this stopers is useless

sorry i forget them

for me it's good, just a last thing for qol, when it's 1 player only 1 spawn is needed + for tele 2 you can put the spawn closer to the first hook of the part

move them closer to restart the part faster

closer and only 1 , the other tee is up

here for a better setup

better setup

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put decoration layers in HD

ad one unhook there so it will look better

sus corner

gap

xD

there's more actually

where xD

here

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• corners

• bad corner

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corner here

bug

idk. is this intended ?

looks better

pliz fix bugs

little bit faily i think ( but probably fine )

no unhhok here

tee gets stuck in this stopper each time

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this is a screenshot on skip

GOOD JOB Ceeper !

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yellow:delete red:add unfreeze (tiles) blue: add unfreeze (no tiles)

This kind of unfreeze doesn't have to be displayed / moreover 💀

This kind of unfreeze doesn't have to be displayed

If you want to keep this, then all similar unfreezes should be displayed

map i think should 4 ⭐

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First ready set by Trial Tester. Map needs to be tested again by an official tester before fully evaluated. Suggested Difficulty Rating:★★★★☆

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first screenshot: unfreeze ismarked, second screenshot: unfreeze is not marked for some reason

i think this unfreeze also needs mark

this unfreeze is useless

imo unfreeze should be marked in places like this

in places like this you can leave it unmarked

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no freeze in tele 1 compared to the rest of the map

unfreeze corners

i guess gameplay and design are fine, map is ready after finishing touches

this part can be really annoying with ne players, because you have to play alot again when you miss the hook on the left, imo this is not good

this is too faily for novice imo

can you put unfreeze like this? it's better in air, since 2 tees drop and the upper tee wont hit the unfreeze on ground, i also think it's too hard with freeze there, since novice players can't hammerfly properly

the marked stuff should be unhookable (important at the bottom, not sure about the place next to ninja), because you might fail if you miss. i don't really like the part on novice, because it can be confusing for new players to understand the timing, to act quickly and to go back if their teammate was too slow. i would prefer an option to help your teammates after the ninja solo

i don't really like that you can't see your teammate from here without zoom, idk it's okay, imo this setup is weird, it's hard to position yourself in the right way, new players will jump at the wrong position and bump into each other after the hook (and doesn't really offer gameplay)

this drag is like high novice because you need to aim for rehooks etc

this drag is low novice (you don't need any complex mechanics, just aiming) also the hook at the end is hard and it doesn't make sense to me, that you have to do easy stuff for one hard hook at the end without a checkpoint

overall i think the map is a bit unbalanced, but maybe that's just me (it's hard to explain without tons of screens)

i edited some messages, because i played it with esckiller and changed my opinion a little, also some more screens soon

this part close to spawn is really annoying, if multiple tees are inside, it's really annoying to do the part

if you land here u are just dead?

can you move this down? now it's a bit annoying for new players, because you easily fall too far down to get the rehook

this is an easy fail

this catch is really tough, it's a high distance and a hard catch, too hard compared to the other parts

if you fail this one catch you have to restart the whole part? imo too annoying (especially with the hard catch above)

you can easily fail if you press a here while hooking (new players can do that, because they don't know the tw physics)

it's easy to fail here, you hook and you walk into freeze

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don't write in here bot commands pliz only map related stuff

I thought this was general I won't do it again, sry.

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really nice map, i just think that this part might be a bit too hard compared to the rest

I agree the map is good, also thank you for changing so much after my test 🙂 i still think you should change some parts (screens soon)

also both players can go up and just skip this part, not sure if you are okay with that or not

seems to be slightly faster but also slightly harder

entitie bug

you dont need the unfreezes now 😅 but still it's often better if they are in the air and not on the ground, so both tees get unfrozen if they stack (for future maps of you)

a hammer sign (indicating the groundhammer) would be nice imo

just for your information, i'm pretty sure that you can go top if you have 3 tees here

i suggest to put unhookables here to avoid awkard fails 😅

lol

the structure is a little confusing (it even confused us a little), but i think it's still okay (you don't have to change it)

can you lower the ceiling a little? the groundhammer is much less annoying then

with weak hook on the bottom, it's easy to fail here (if you hook and press d, you hit the freeze before your mate hits the unfreeze) there are multiple ways of editing this (just examples):

1. more space on the bottom (e.g. less freeze)
2. stoppers on top, so the tee on the top gets to the right quicker
3. adding hookthrough tiles where the freeze starts, so the tee on the bottom bumps into them instead of freeze (and only freeze at the top, i can explain further if you want)

can you move the unfreeze a little? it's scary that you don't see what comes next (which is the case with default zoom)

i would add some unfreezes here, so you can go back more easily here

this hook + hammer + jump mechanic is very tough, i suggest you to remove the teles and put hookthrough tiles (yellow) so there is another solution for the part, which doesnt require the hard mechanics, also maybe extend the hookable wall (and maybe make some unhookables at the bottom for better gameplay), so you can't fail here if you remove the teles

stoppers here for faster gameplay?

same as above (maybe also change the size of the part, hard to explain what i mean in a few words)

i recommend you to simplify this part, souly and me were confused about what to do, it also can be failed, if you get it wrong, which shouldnt happen in a novice map close to finish 😅

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not really a problem but maybe you don't want it 😅

small design bug

I can throw it

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and I think there's no 3 time checkpoint (or I cant see it in freeze)

Did you gameplay test it? If so it would be nice to tell us that you found no major issue or something like that. Pointing out minor design bugs (excluding missing tiles) indicates that the first testing phase is finished.

i can test it tomorrow

👍 Try to focus on gameplay before design issues, it's more important. :)

Skip still works:

Some notes from me:

1. I would remove at least on tile of freeze from this wall since it is fairly easy to hit it as a beginner.
2. Why no unfreeze here? Try to keep it consistent.
3. You introduced the ninja here but then nothing comes after. Either remove it or make more parts using ninja mechanics.
4. If you fall back while your partner is already inside it's a fail. Maybe you can rework the part a little bit? An indicator if the player inisde the freeze should hold d would be nice as well.

You took these assets without permission. Please remove them.

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situation for skip?? (I understand that it doesn't speed up the passage, I just noted)

i think smth wrong with this part for novice, maybe im wrong

compared to other parts

By the way, it feels like almost 3/5 of the map consists of such elements

delete this map please

Just ready it

after we invested so much time, it would be sad to decline it. you don't want the map to be released?

why

i decline it because it seems like the mapper is no longer interested

Your map submission has been declined.

Thats very sad, u take much effort to work in the map 😭

yeah it's sad

testers cant go releases?

😦

It would be kinda weird to release after the mapper asked for a decline (asked the wrong person but still)