#Smurf
"Smurf" by Kaniosek [Moderate]
DDNet 10/01/2025 4:56 PM

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@prezes3333
DDNet 10/01/2025 4:56 PM
DDNet 10/01/2025 4:56 PM

Map 🐞:

.cammo. 10/01/2025 5:13 PM

are there smurfs in this map ?

ililja 10/01/2025 5:16 PM

pls no smurfs they ruin games :c

ililja 10/01/2025 5:16 PM

but this an incredible map design wise

prezes3333 10/01/2025 5:16 PM

it actually should be mod 1*

prezes3333 10/01/2025 5:17 PM

ium sorry but no haha

.cammo. 10/01/2025 5:17 PM

$decline

DDNet 10/01/2025 5:17 PM

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ililja 10/01/2025 5:17 PM

xdddd

.cammo. 10/01/2025 5:17 PM

false advertising

.cammo. 10/01/2025 5:17 PM

i have been scammed

prezes3333 10/01/2025 5:24 PM

Where are the testers? Because tomorrow there will probably be another map

prezes3333 10/01/2025 5:24 PM

😂

ililja 10/01/2025 5:24 PM

they sleepy

ililja 10/01/2025 5:25 PM

there was a large scale test like 2 weeks ago you missed it

ililja 10/01/2025 5:25 PM

now live with no test for 2 months😈

ililja 10/01/2025 5:26 PM

myabe make design for es_1 instead? pls its got so much potential

ililja 10/01/2025 5:26 PM

but it looks so meh

prezes3333 10/01/2025 5:33 PM

no time for it

prezes3333 10/01/2025 5:33 PM

;c

ililja 10/01/2025 5:33 PM

:cccc

prezes3333 10/01/2025 6:41 PM

idk, tell me if this could be nov 5 or mod 1

prezes3333 10/01/2025 6:42 PM

first part for sure will be deleted or fixed

ililja 10/01/2025 6:47 PM

id say this is fine as nov 5*

ililja 10/01/2025 6:47 PM

but id ask a tester they know better

prezes3333 10/01/2025 6:51 PM

I think the last map released, "diversity," has a similar level of difficult, or even more difficult. It's hard to say. It would be best if a terster commented, as you say ;D

.cammo. 10/01/2025 7:01 PM

how to decide if map is novice: step 1. figure out if people without brain can finish it step 2. figure out if people with the reaction time of a brick can finish it

wee.tw 10/01/2025 7:09 PM

what if brainless guys with the reaction time of a brick can't finish it

wee.tw 10/01/2025 7:11 PM

wait why it's in wait but not in the test huh?

.cammo. 10/01/2025 7:13 PM

map bug = auto wait

.cammo. 10/01/2025 7:13 PM

that means it should be 1* or they have to play another game

ililja 10/01/2025 7:15 PM
  1. make it so you dont have to walk left to get him out novice will mabe walk into freeze
  2. maybe make this block hookthrough so novices have an easier time hooking the one down there
  3. this is quite confusing for novice maybe add indicators
  4. novice will have a hard time grabbing this
  5. this again is quite confusing for novices
  6. myabe lower this so they have an easier time hooking the other person
  7. make it so they dont fall off while hooking the other one
  8. novice will struggle putting one person there and not immediately think off this
  9. this is quite hard to understand for novice
  10. indicate that
ililja 10/01/2025 7:17 PM
  1. make it so you dont pull him under
  2. remove a few tps its quite tight a really good map i love the design, gl!
prezes3333 10/01/2025 7:20 PM

From moderate 1 is it already required to use your brain, or only starting from 2 or 3?

prezes3333 10/01/2025 7:21 PM

If it’s from 1, then start testing it in the mod category

prezes3333 10/01/2025 7:21 PM

😂

ililja 10/01/2025 7:21 PM

i looked at it from novice point of view i also think 1* mods should be obvious not requiring much to think

prezes3333 10/01/2025 7:21 PM

damn

ililja 10/01/2025 7:22 PM

a few parts would also need to be adjusted but far less if mod 1*

ililja 10/01/2025 7:22 PM

up to you

ililja 10/01/2025 7:22 PM

your map

prezes3333 10/01/2025 7:22 PM

ye then just change it to mod 1*

ililja 10/01/2025 7:25 PM

also why is there a no weak hook option you can do all with weak i just tried

ililja 10/01/2025 7:25 PM

its not needed

prezes3333 10/01/2025 7:26 PM

cuz i just copied design and all server option from another map

prezes3333 10/01/2025 7:26 PM

and forgot to remove it

ililja 10/01/2025 7:27 PM

xdd

blaiszephyr 10/01/2025 7:27 PM

our standards for novice maps have risen a lot btw

blaiszephyr 10/01/2025 7:27 PM

I'd annoy you about every pixel I don't like

prezes3333 10/01/2025 7:27 PM

yeee i know that

ililja 10/01/2025 7:28 PM

he doesnt even want it novice aymore xddd

prezes3333 10/01/2025 7:28 PM

that's why I adapt it to mod1

blaiszephyr 10/01/2025 7:29 PM

I personally don't find this gameplay style to be fun anymore, hard for actual beginners, boring for regular players. They're only fun if you're interested in speed running IMO

blaiszephyr 10/01/2025 7:30 PM

we need a new meta :(

prezes3333 10/01/2025 7:31 PM

I never thought about making a novice for old gen players

prezes3333 10/01/2025 7:31 PM

but ok

prezes3333 10/01/2025 7:31 PM

generally, I would be happy if someone made these maps

blaiszephyr 10/01/2025 7:32 PM

It's more that I don't think they fit new players even while labeled novice

blaiszephyr 10/01/2025 7:33 PM

but thats not an issue with your map, that's just my opinion:p

prezes3333 10/01/2025 7:33 PM

It's not about the issue, every map has problems

prezes3333 10/01/2025 7:34 PM

oke meybe not every

prezes3333 10/01/2025 7:34 PM

I'm just saying that there seem to be fewer and fewer maps being created

ililja_ 10/01/2025 7:35 PM

Its not that less get created its more get rejected

prezes3333 10/01/2025 7:35 PM

oh yes, I forgot about the standards

prezes3333 10/01/2025 7:39 PM

it comes down to one thing

prezes3333 10/01/2025 7:40 PM

that there are no maps

ililja_ 10/01/2025 7:40 PM

Thats right

ililja_ 10/01/2025 7:41 PM

And that not gud but thats a discussion for another time

prezes3333 10/01/2025 7:42 PM
DDNet 10/01/2025 7:43 PM
ililja 10/02/2025 3:45 PM
  1. floaty mushroom and annoying you jump at the stone above
  2. another floaty 3-4. you can go bith down
  3. another floaty
  4. lower this you can fall into it
  5. more hookthrough
  6. its soloable
  7. add more roof
  8. floaty :3
ililja 10/02/2025 3:51 PM
  1. lower this so you dont need to dj
  2. annoying dj
  3. you still pull him to you
  4. i missed this hookable maybe just remove a few tps and force dj
ililja 10/02/2025 3:51 PM

gl!

prezes3333 10/02/2025 3:56 PM

thanks for test and you feedback

prezes3333 10/02/2025 3:57 PM

for now this map needs little reconstruction

prezes3333 10/02/2025 3:57 PM

cuz now its like novice/mod

prezes3333 10/02/2025 3:57 PM

50/50 xD

ililja 10/02/2025 3:58 PM

parts are ez but need thinking its a mix but it would be fine as mod 1* 2 star its too ez

prezes3333 10/02/2025 3:59 PM

ye put in on wait

prezes3333 10/02/2025 3:59 PM

i need few days to fix all

prezes3333 10/02/2025 4:00 PM

meybe ill replace a few parts also

DDNet 10/02/2025 4:00 PM
wee.tw 10/02/2025 4:01 PM

talked with kaniosek ingame, idea is to make it harder and push it to the mod 1*

wee.tw 10/02/2025 4:01 PM

waitin

prezes3333 10/02/2025 4:01 PM

yea, thanks for your feedback

prezes3333 10/02/2025 4:02 PM

and ililja_ also 😄

ililja 10/02/2025 4:03 PM

ty :3

prezes3333 10/03/2025 6:36 PM
DDNet 10/03/2025 6:36 PM
prezes3333 10/04/2025 1:59 AM
DDNet 10/04/2025 1:59 AM
ramirok_ 10/04/2025 6:37 PM
@prezes3333

put changelog

prezes3333 10/04/2025 6:44 PM

ye so

prezes3333 10/04/2025 6:44 PM

i almost changed whole map

prezes3333 10/04/2025 6:44 PM

xD

ramirok_ 10/04/2025 6:46 PM

wrong entities

prezes3333 10/04/2025 6:59 PM

Can you guys change it to mod ?

DDNet 10/04/2025 8:04 PM
blaiszephyr 10/04/2025 8:04 PM

done.

ililja 10/04/2025 8:53 PM
  1. such a long walk to the first part
  2. and so much unfreeze
  3. reduce the amount of drag here it feels quite useless 4-5. you can still go both down
  4. solo way too ez for moderate
  5. if you dont catch him here he goes into the pit
  6. both can go top with a good bounce i got it after like 5 attempts + this is not novice anymore its quite ez with out the stopper
  7. remove this so you dont need to hook the roof
  8. add more hookthrough this is the best angle i could find while at the block which is the first instinct
ililja 10/04/2025 9:01 PM
  1. this part is a bit harder then the rest of the map, atleast the 2 hooks
  2. maybe give a lil more space
  3. you still pull him under add more hookthrough
  4. this feels akward a lot of map space is used for very long transitions where you just walk
.cammo. 10/04/2025 9:01 PM

like 80% of the images can be downscaled and compressed with no real visual difference

.cammo. 10/04/2025 9:01 PM

like do you really need to have it be this big

prezes3333 10/05/2025 1:37 PM
DDNet 10/05/2025 1:37 PM
ililja 10/05/2025 1:39 PM

you sure hate changelogs xddd

prezes3333 10/05/2025 1:40 PM

Changed start/end line to animated one

prezes3333 10/05/2025 1:41 PM

Changed/upgraded these parts 👆

manikoo 10/05/2025 1:41 PM

kaniOS

prezes3333 10/05/2025 1:41 PM

Now everything should be fine

manikoo 10/05/2025 1:44 PM

should it really be like this? i would prefer this pink one above grass

manikoo 10/05/2025 1:45 PM

like grass would not grow on this tile you know ||🤓 ||

manikoo 10/05/2025 1:46 PM

anyway, i see its same on a lot of parts so maybe thats a part of your design

prezes3333 10/05/2025 1:47 PM

not very important and very subjective

prezes3333 10/05/2025 1:47 PM

i like it this way

ililja 10/05/2025 1:47 PM

you havent addresed most of the things i mentioned :c

manikoo 10/05/2025 1:48 PM

this one looks really like a bug

manikoo 10/05/2025 1:48 PM

isn't it?

prezes3333 10/05/2025 1:48 PM

I don't think all of them are needed

prezes3333 10/05/2025 1:49 PM

ye oke meybe i will changed cuz i agree

manikoo 10/05/2025 1:49 PM

👍 gl

ililja 10/05/2025 1:50 PM

its minor things but they make the map more enjoyable to play

ililja 10/05/2025 1:50 PM

also i mentioned a skip you didnt address

ililja 10/05/2025 1:52 PM

and theres lots of things really annoying like this

prezes3333 10/05/2025 1:53 PM
  1. actually good thing - it prevents big crowds
  2. not important 4-5. not really important - its random to jump right, so its risky a bit
  3. meybe i will check it
  4. you should hook the wall here
  5. i dont really understand what u meant
  6. you should hook the roof
  7. its good
prezes3333 10/05/2025 1:54 PM

its intended way

prezes3333 10/05/2025 1:54 PM

to bring him to you

ililja 10/05/2025 1:54 PM

yes but you pull him under

ililja 10/05/2025 1:54 PM

just to put him back

prezes3333 10/05/2025 1:54 PM

then you just go > ?

ililja 10/05/2025 1:55 PM

its just qol

prezes3333 10/05/2025 1:55 PM

you can also jump to prevent it

ililja 10/05/2025 1:55 PM

yor frozen?

ililja 10/05/2025 1:55 PM

your

prezes3333 10/05/2025 1:55 PM

actually i would leave it as it is

prezes3333 10/05/2025 1:55 PM

cuz u can do pretty nice move for speedruners here

ililja 10/05/2025 1:55 PM

all these things make your map less enjoyable to play

ililja 10/05/2025 1:56 PM

so the players that are on this level have it harder cus " u can do pretty nice move for speedruners here "

ililja 10/05/2025 1:56 PM

or rather more annoying

prezes3333 10/05/2025 1:56 PM

For now, I would like to know what other testers have to say on this matter because it is very subjective

prezes3333 10/05/2025 1:57 PM

I prefer to hear more than 2 opinions

ililja 10/05/2025 1:58 PM

yea sure

prezes3333 10/05/2025 1:58 PM

ye this is kinda odd

prezes3333 10/05/2025 1:59 PM

so. you should hook him for another angle

prezes3333 10/05/2025 1:59 PM

just to aim right

ililja 10/05/2025 2:00 PM

im just saying the things i mentioned were mostly delete a few or place a few blocks

prezes3333 10/05/2025 2:03 PM

I appreciate your feedback and the time you spent, but I don't agree with everything you mentioned

prezes3333 10/05/2025 2:03 PM

thats all

prezes3333 10/05/2025 2:04 PM

although there are things I agree with and I am changing them now

prezes3333 10/05/2025 2:05 PM

and remember that one tester's opinion is sometimes not enough to implement something 😅

ililja 10/05/2025 2:06 PM

you rarely get opinions from 2 testers

ililja 10/05/2025 2:06 PM

but yeah thats true

prezes3333 10/05/2025 2:07 PM

ye but also u need two testers acceptation

prezes3333 10/05/2025 2:07 PM

so it's probably only a matter of time

prezes3333 10/05/2025 2:11 PM

-Harder solo

  • fixed skip
  • fixed grass
prezes3333 10/05/2025 2:11 PM
prezes3333 10/05/2025 7:51 PM
  • Design fixes
prezes3333 10/06/2025 1:23 PM
  • CP bug fixed
manikoo 10/06/2025 1:36 PM
DDNet 10/07/2025 12:28 AM
DDNet 10/07/2025 12:28 AM
DDNet 10/09/2025 6:52 PM
louis.place 10/09/2025 6:52 PM

talked w/ mapper, first few parts need small reworks

prezes3333 11/09/2025 9:52 PM

yo i want this map to be decline

prezes3333 11/09/2025 9:53 PM

do it plz

prezes3333 11/09/2025 9:53 PM

I don't like the gameplay

prezes3333 11/09/2025 9:54 PM

I will add a map with this design someday, only with better gameplay

prezes3333 11/09/2025 9:54 PM

thanks 😄

blaiszephyr 11/09/2025 11:00 PM

Aww, are you sure? It was almost finished

DDNet 11/09/2025 11:16 PM

Mention:

@prezes3333
.freezy_ 11/09/2025 11:17 PM

Feel free to reupload if you change your mind. 😁