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chinese maps for chinese noobs

pretty ez map for new players

lol

ok played it through seems nice

some parts are hard if this is your first map

also some faily parts that could get frustrating in the beginning

I think you have to add ,,turn off entities'' when there are indications even if most new players don't play with entities

wow thanks for test

Added some turn for entities & arrows in entities

considering reducing the difficulty of some parts

Make layers size to same and some small changes of parts

Here when 2 tees go together they can fall down like it happened to me

mb just need to add infinite jumps down so he can solo again or get unsolo somewhere else

Or just a stopper

yeah

when there is one without entities

the unfreeze should be recognizable

they are

when you need to see there is a dot

Hello there ! 😄 ive gone through the map with Welf and found some stuff to point out, starting with this pic, you can add Hookthrough (blue line) so they can save a bit easier. Also move it 1 tile to the left (white line) so they dont have to be right at the edge to hook and (red line) add unhook so they dont hook the ground and fail.

Here maybe add some hooks (green line) because 1 tile hook can be reeally hard for news and also is really faily if they miss that grab.

Here you cant hook top from those stoppers + they can slip off the edges or make a wrong dj and fall again, and they need to part again.

This is just not that important but a suggestion. What about adding a Hookthrough so they can help others if they really cant do it 😄 doesnt destroy the gameplay, just more fun in t0

maybe 2 hookthrough tiles in the middle

I think you should remove the unsolo and make the room not that tight, keep the infinite jumps so they can learn how it works but if they are in solo and really tight they can struggle

about that prelast screen, i said one sided hookthrough so you can hook from the bottom and hook through from the top

but that would be hart to mark

i just think grapplin is one of the hardest for news to control xD and this map has some hard climbing (not that bad imo but still)

also here, if they are coming from the right they will learn that they will get unfreezed if they jump through. And probably they will end up jumping in the last one and not get unfreezed. maybe put unfreeze on the ground or mark it smthg.

this ofc is possible for news, but its still hard to grab that and get unfreezed + quickly use the infinite jump

here is also a hard climb + its 2 tiles at the bottom, they can fail easily, maybe just make 1 freeze tile :3

maybe add some unfreeze here? so they dont have to wait all the time if they miss

interesting design, I like the unhooks

nice map! i like the subtlety of some smart part design choices.

would mark these unfreezes since they are different from the rest or put them on the ground? (i assume they're vertical for speedruns)

unfreeze up here as well?

the difficulty seems to get a lot harder after the inf jump solo tho :/

hey thanks a lot for all of your advices

the unfreeze should be recognizable for novice players

agree with coke

idk about this map... 80% solo parts... hard movement parts... i think when this map got 4 or 5* u have to add more parts

unsolo + infinite jumps unmarked

fixed & new unfreeze mark

maybe add a speeder with 1 force here?

i felt these two parts were still a little harder compared to the rest. for the part with the stoppers, maybe give 1 tile more space? and for this part where u need a good angle, maybe you could try putting some hookthrough to the right and a hookable so they can just aim thru that instead of having to use the hookable on the left

I don't think its too hard for new players . it could be a bit hard but its easy to save. this could help them learn hook and teamwork

will fix the speed

test

sorry wrong map

I made this map for new players. According to my observations of chn server players in the past few days, this map may be a little challenging but it should have fun for t0 players. is it too hard？I'm not sure whether to reduce the difficulty

its probably pretty hard for new players but i think they will get thru it

if theres someone in the server that's good at the game it will at least be easier than most of the maps ppl are playing now

its novice, not novice + pro

dont think every new novice map has to be super beginner friendly now they will eventually get better and they'll need harder novice maps and thats what this map s for xd

i think the hard solos compared to the parts ..hmm

need more 2ppl parts

yea i saw many of them playing multimap, they failed again and again but keep playing it，so I think new players are willing to accept challenges

oh

tbh i think this map is good as it is, as louis said they can get through it. Its really easy to pass the part with more ppl helping each other but its good

yeah just change the stuff that feels unbalanced for us and where they can fail too easily, people also need more good maps like this after they finished the 1* maps

working on it

I finished Kobra 2 with guy who was new (finished one map), so I think this map is good for new players

kobra maps way too hard for new player

xd

I remember that I spent 80mins with someones and failed before the endline in one of the kobra map when I was new

added 2 2tee parts and others small changes

kobra maps way too hard for new player

I was trying to say that this map is good for newbies

you can skip part by doing this solo with a nice swing O:

Looks liek its intended, but if not, you can just go left without going up. Maybe put unfreeze on the right o:

There are 3 parts where u need another player to do the parts, the rest is possible solo.

For new players it should be a good map to start with. Its really easy, not so faily but new players could stuck in freeze if they cant hook properly. Should not be more than 2-3* novice.

Design is rly beautiful and I dindt find any bugs o:

Looks liek its intended, but if not, you can just go left without going up. Maybe put unfreeze on the right o:

cool for pros

thank you

I fixed and added unfreeze

yea .the hook to left is for pros , noobs can go right

idk what to think about this map

How did you make it ?

hookthrough is hard to see for me exactly

thank you！ Fixed the bugs and changed the color of tiles a bit.

How did you make it ?

what do you mean with the weird screenshot

weird animation lines (probably everywhere where is this freeze tiles) above or under freeze in 144hz

blue and purple color

its probably just ur monitor

its called 144hz bleed or smth

its only in this map xD !

off course i had different black shadows with out configuration but i fix it ( when i bought this monitor )

I hope it has been fixed

or I cant do anything for it

We had a quick walkthrough. In my opinion this is a cool balanced "advanced" hook training novice map.

i don't like the arrows here because some players might assume they can cheat this with falling down at different possitions, i would rather add freeze or something like that.

We suggest to add freeze, so people don't try to hook their mates from here.

I suggest to remove the corner at the top left, so every hammerthrow works (it can be annoying to bump in, but if you want it like this, it's fine). I also recommend to add hook at the ceiling, because some might want to use the hook at the right side and eventually block other players for that, so the hook would just add more space to your part.

We suggest to remove 1-2 freeze tiles here, because it's faily.

I suggest to add an unhook block here, because:

1. It's easier to anticipate, that holding a while falling down is enough (it is enough in this version, but it's hard to know that).
2. It will be easier to rescue your teammates, the hook is kinda close right now.

Maybe this is too easy/simple for a last part, you can try to make it somewhat more special. Finish after this feels kinda surprising.

thank you

fixed all and made a new last part

looks rly hard :o

really

make last part easier

Hey bit 😄 just 2 things to suggest ^^.

1. i think this is pretty empty and prob 1* compared to the maps dificulty, you could idk probably add some freeze underneath the blocks (and unfreeze down) to make it idk more interesting with some things to dodge atleast.

also this is pretty haaard for newers, like you have to do so much. you hook right, hold a perfectly to get in that gap, release prob, then hook and dj to the top... hm idk it seems hard to me for newers.

ty

suggestion: maybe this freeze is a good spot to explain how to respawn, well maybe his map is too hard if you don't know how to respawn

suggestion: i would prefer if you could help your teammates from here, i guess jumping back is okay, too

suggestion: looks hard to hook your teammates from here, maybe use HT

this is still too hard in my opinion. the platform is small so tees might wait there and block the hook, also they will block each other in the beginning of that swing.

ty

modified these 3 parts

the 2nd screenshot looks hard now :o, the last part looks still too hard

OK how should I do about your first screen，the respawn one

i thought you would come up with a way by your own

if you don't know how to make it in a way you like it, maybe don't do it

idk if it would work, you can put a tune zone in the freeze and do like tune_zone_enter 1 "press f1 and write bind k kill to respawn on pressing k" (oh i also think k is the default kill bind already xD)

or just add a text to your map

i wouldn't say thats needed ._.

but if u want it to look good and not spam ppl in chat just put text in ur design and give it a para y so when you hop into the freeze it pops out

or something similar

Seems not very necessary

also changed a bit in last part. its easy enough now in my opinion

thought own

spawn?XD

still think last part is too hard

maybe smth like this?

idk u just need a lot of hook control and aim skills

in any way it looks like the players would block each other while trying to swing

ty

Did u fix spawn

fixed

yea

xd

Also deleted the one at last part?

yea

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-boo-isee-you-watching-you-silly-face-gif-15449279

entity bug here

entity bug

😊 ty

🇭🇲

ht alpha now 170

noobs cant see the differnts between unhook and ht

$ready 5

thanks for calling me noob

https://tenor.com/view/montana-black-smile-you-tuber-gif-14543785

we all are noobs

Not me

ok, ty

Please rework

half map is solo

solo parts -8 2p parts +8

ty , fixed

$reset

Map feels kinda weirdly balanced, there are a few parts that seem more moderate than novice. It was interesting but I feel parts might need to be made a bit easier for the novice server. Also I don't really think the start is good for team 0, I think there would be quite a bit of blocking there.

Here are the parts that I think are a bit hard for novice players (Tested it with some novice SA players)

No turn off entities sign here

This hookthrough seems to cause confusion on how to do the part, I don't think it has to be changed but I think players would be less confused if it was hookable/unhook.

I think here you should remove the stoppers I have marked and add unsolo, it would be annoying if you go through and your partner fails.

we can move this map to moderate?

can you move this to moderate?

can i just edit the channel and then it's moderate?

nvm i can't edit this one anyways xD

mods should have the ability to edit channels :P

Powers gone after one guy abused

😄

well than that guy should have been removed as mod but not take the ability away from everyone else

part is a little hard (maybe move unfreeze 1 down) and if u go into stoppers without helping other might fail

thanks a lot of testing this map again. Made parts a bit harder to fit the moderate

those two parts are fine imo

Yes they were ok in the old version, now they look lame in contrast to the other parts

cool map! had fun playng it

fixed boring and lame parts (maybe)

parts a bit weird but ok xD

ty fixed

thanks for

's work

an example how to make the endless jump part more difficult. so i would suggest to make it shorter and a bit harder instead of long and novice/boring ^^

i suggest to remove some stoppers (with weak hook this is a bit annoying)

suggestion: yellow: move freeze 1 up blue: add unhookable

you will have more time to accellerate here so the catch is easier. i guess the part is fine. your choice if you want to nerf it a bit xD

all fixed by your suggestions

thanks a lot🥰

Not readable in entities

Also, this part is faily

There was already another part faily like this and there were speedups. Don't you want to add it here to?

I would make part with ground hammer look something like this, to not distract noobs by not actual freeze corner. As I can see, a lot of noobs (who is this map for) often do not understand ground-hammer parts

Everything is your choice here I guess. Nice easy map. Lovely design (as always). One and only mapper who's maps I can play without entities

(also finish feels empty. I would like to see your logo there

)

The speedups do not necessarily have to be seen in the design, as they are only anti fail. All other 'bugs' are ok for me, I think the map is ready now

Thank you for your advices and compliment

changed the ending part

Added the speedups here

This part changed a bit and its tested

This is not faily so i think its ok

Also fixed the corner

I agree with Coke so didnt mark the speedups

Ready

release now

$ready 1

Wow

Can't do part with weak

$reset

part works with weak

can confirm that it works

though its a little tight

i did it with hammering the other tee up a bit

its just with hammer and fast dj

nothing special

With strong is possible with out hammering , people in team 0 was trying to do what i did ....

i think the part is ok as a moderate player you should be able to think a little bit more

yea it works

coke top 1

xD

and brutal player was not able to figurate it out lmao

for me it was also tedious + counterintuitive

?

i think speeder need to be nerfed a bit

best demo name kicker

XDDD

big bug

coke existential crisis

i wrote it before map was published no one cares

I am sorry for the bugs. Now fixed.

Lol map isn't ready anymore xD

And I think this is the right way

its weak hook.

Idk what to do now

$ready 1

speeders are rng sometimes

2 insane players didnt realize ur right way on mod1 map so mb its fine if speeder will be not so strong

Do you really think it should be changed? I think it is difficult for many people because this part is rather untypical

But not that hard idk..

2 bobs decided to play in team snd reached this part

Rq

It's moderate not novice 😁

Its mod 1

Its not a big deal to lower speeder by 1-2

I think then the part idea is broken

It works with strong hook with way i tried in my clip why shoulndt it work with weak

Well your way is also a bit different than the normal way

f3 speeders are so strong in that part

Sorry for this confusing part. I decided to decrease the speeder but I can't use my computer now.

ok fixed. but part totally changed. and it's not random any more.

Use laser dragger replaced the speeders

what about this

$ready 1

https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/746059267827826756/774640796494069770

stop testing maps

i am not right now :/