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Pls delete penis Tower

Omg

ok?

this teleportation color is basically invisible because of the map background

this , does not need the hookthrough, why that it is useless

I make all that unhookable?

in this part yes

Please Change contrast of the background

It hurts my eyes

Yellow: Mark the unfreeze for the whole map except the ground unfreeze. Peeps wont know what or how they got unfreezed.

Red: Entities bug (unhooks instead of hook)

White: You added 2 separate mappres of blocks + different colours (no need + it takes mb).

Some ppl will skip this + u dont really need it cause u can edge and u dont get to use it much

You dont need so many shields. 1 tile space in between its the max you can add

This part you should def change. Whole maps is kinda a 2 and this throw is like 4-5. + need mark unfreeze but imo u need change this part

Red: Entities bug (Freeze where there is no freeze design)

Yellow: Mark unfreeze, this kind of unfreezes are important

Also need slightly change this part too, 3-4* prob, a bit hard. You can think of smth

Red: If you land there u basically dead. And nobos can really hook and keep holding, alot of them they release the hook cause they dont know. So need fix this part too

Everything that is in blue means that it is not used for mapping. You can remove them

Map is not bad, you really need to change design of almost everything.

Freeze has to be black with Alpha (transparency) (most maps use this , but you can try different colours ofc) but you cant make it same colour as bg and if u want to make it white make it brighter.

Unfreeze has to be marked as i mentioned. The important ones.

Doodas (decoration). green grass here doesnt really match, try different colours see what fits better.

Also, you can map with only 1 type of unhooks with same colours.

Gl on the changes ^-^

Come up with someone else because we have seen it before

its ok to take inspiration from other maps and parts can be similar, but if it looks and plays almost the exact same then its not ok because then players will feel like they already played the map before. also, i get it, it's novice and novice parts are all pretty similar, but u can at least have some originality and not make some parts almost exactly same as another map

😮 good spot louis, agree too then. You need change them abit then

This is a bootleg sunny side up ngl

Yeah, I want it to make the map like sunny side up, that style. Later I'll change all that

Thanks for feedback

Only I had to change the white circle or the whole part?

only white circle but as Louis mentioned, the part behind it its similar so maybe you should change whole part

Oh right

This part that can be skipped, I change it?

i dont know, up to you and the testers 🤷‍♂️ but i know some nobos wont stop at that and they will continue passed it so... idk

green grass doesn't really fit in current design

Lol 50% of the map is copied

Today I'll send the map with all changes

no need to yet

wait till some tester check it, imo its not releasable, too basic, boring, unbalanced and half of map just rip off of sunny land

someone other from testers will explain u better

dont waste ur time on fixing all QuiX stuff mentioned

Only I made different parts

Maybe with the new parts that I made, probably will have another look

why is this a part

the map design is weird and this hookthrough makes no sense

time with dummy

everyone putting hate on that map

id suggest you to decline this and rework it as good as you can and keep in mind what others adviced you would be nice -background doesnt fit with the freeze color -takes into account the size of parts -don't map repetitive stuff (jump trough freeze into a unfreeze, thats overused) you have the capacity to do better, do what seems best to you with what I proposed 🙂

Thanks

but, if I already made changes on the map. Can I send like and update of the map here?

definetly edit: but keep in mind what ReZee said

yeah for sure

Map update

-Changes in the bg, added more stars -Changes in the color of green doads and deco stuffs -Similar parts to sunny side up mapped different -Added more grass deco

undeep and freeze should have different markings and not same

stoppers here are quite useless, having a way to go back is always great, and they don't have any function here

current generic hook and unhook doesn't really fit in map atmoshpere, i would play a bit with colors so they can fit in current map pallette

the part feels nice but i don't like that it's faily comparatively to other parts, i would add a path so in case if a nobo fails he doesn't have to restart from begginig, but can save him (just a personal prefference)

i don't really like the way you made freeze, in my opinion square freeze + a corner would look better

like this

looks a bit ugly, probably making undercover for stoppers would look quite better (personal preferences)

whats undercover for stoppers

prob like design behind them? or smth

yeah

xd

sorry my english sometime sucks xD

same about this, i would make a path in case if someone falls here, so it wouldnt be that frustrating at near finish for nobos

i would do something like that

i like changes tho, the map feels better comparatively to previous version, for me atleast

x2, still need to be pulished abit

but yeh, nice improvement

Big thanks!

Can I make some other decorations in this style? Looks good

Looks good

Make them in more random patterns but yeah

Map update

-Changes to the color of hooks and unhooks

-Added other type of grass and deco

-Changes in the color of grass

-faily parts saveable

-Changes to all freeze corners

-Design behind stoppers

dont really focus on design 😀

Parts are better, game play is decent for me as a novice, it has a chance for release, so why not? 😅

one wall is unhookable another is hookable

some design errors, there are also a lot of places where corners are missing, is that intitional? xd would be cool if you can add edges for unfreeze a stoppers design too

would be better to replace with stoppers which doesn't allow you to go trough them, because i failed like a dumbo XD

you also could also put unfreeze under them so it would look cleaner in entities

remove unused mapres

also the new design parts looks amazing, would be cool if you add like those to more places, because some of them feels really naked :D

Alright

Well, some corners are intentional

Idk why when you guys send screenshots it looks so bright. Now the hook its like the same color of unhook

that still looks terrible to me

if it would be my map i would've do something like that xd

this part is way too boring and you have to do same thing for like 4 times, you could've put here an actual part. RN it just feels like a random part to fill the map

don't use same stopper markings for every kind of stoppers xD

this part feels quite harder comparatively to other parts, you can change it to something better, where laser would have some function rather than just unfreezing teammate untill he hits the edge, considering that this is easily soloable xD

The opposite, you should use for all stoppers same marking but use "arrows" instead of a line. Cause u dont know the direction its facing. FeaRZ

well i meant that he used same kind of stopper design everywhere, meanwhile there are parts where might be confusing for other players. The places where he made stoppers with same design aren't even needed, i don't think the line is a bad idea for marking stoppers xD

i would move shields to blue marked spot, also i would put a laser here down for safety, in case if hook doesn't reach the first player

i would put stoppers and unfreeze design in front of tee to make it look cleaner

unfreeze here wouldn't hurt, but up to you

stoppers at next part aren't needed

also in this spot unfreeze corner design is missing, same as in last part, if that's intentional then ok xD

Well, for stoppers I would use same marking so people will know what it is

if you do, use arrows instead, but you don't have to spam it

Okay

tu mapa este no es malo 10/10 de que lo aceptaran confiemos 😄

Te quiero <3

Jsks

this map is good man

i loved the design

gameplay = 9/10

design 10/10

Thanks

need to pulish some things

ye

aguante fearz

Aguante deivid!!! Aqui tratando de sacar el mapa

all of these need detail on yes

i think the first part you chose is pretty bad for this map, for three reasons.

1) i can see many newbies just blocking and falling down there. 2) you made it so that the wall stops before they fall down (orange) and there's potential a lot will pile up here. 3) you can't get people from blue to fall down left (even with hammer and holding)

and putting this part at a later stage seems to faily for 3-4 stars, so I'd just get rid of it replace it with something more appropriate

the map style is like that of Sunny Side Up, Harvest &Co. so you aren't adding anything new, instead you want there to another kind of this map. there will be a point (or already is) where we are saturated with this style of map so any new submission should add to the experience (quality map) instead of just being another map. I think you do you know what you are doing, though and this has a good potential to be released but I would like to see quite a few more parts

because right now i can count 13 essential parts and that's really few. people would play this in 2-3 minutes and think "that's it?"

I would say at least 20 parts and at best 25-30 parts

yep, couldnt agree more with ReD :), i went yesterday night with him over the map and also told him to change most of the parts, he is working on it.

Instead of changing this first part, can I do like a saveable path in what I marked with blue and hookthroughs in what I marked with orange? or it's necessary change whole part

If you do, it will be blocky af

Just change it xD

Change the colors too maybe its so annoying pink & purple

It would be better with a Night bg and blue tiles and Yellow hookthrough

--Map update__

• Changes on most parts

• Changes on colors of unhook, hook and background

• Changes on desing a bit

in parts like these add a corner on the freeze

make background larger, on my monitor it's above the screen

hook and unhook blocks are too similar

raise ceiling here

unfreeze skip

cool bg

the map start is able to be done solo, so make it a noobfilter or smth

this part isn't really interesting

catching the tee here is hard for novice

this entire part can be skipped

and this part

using hammer throw

skip

generic

remove 2nd endline

no, why? its just design looks cool

i liked the 2 endlines

its cool

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I bearly reached here (normal jumping) meaning that the other unfreeze its useless.

I think you can add something here. Feels abit empty

Try not to do rooms or paths like this. Looks like 2015. maybe add another part in between that? or just make it bigger

Maybe make another space on the left and add a ht for others to help

You should mark that there goes undeep.

What is ht?

hookthrough ^^

O

Do you like newest parts

? Haha

Yes, map is improving. Needs a bit more pulish but yeah going well ^-^ keep up.

I disagree xd they can throw, they can jump by getting speed from ground

At some point it opens multiple ways of doing it and not just by a simple jump. It also might be very annoyng for speedrunners.

Nice xD a 2* novice that they have joined the game will know how to throw GG

it was just an example that it isn't useless.

Thats from the view of a good player. Novixe you should see all the possibilities and what they do the most. And they always hold their keys, hooks and jumps.

that doesn't say that you should make for that part only one way, and the one which is a jump xD

But that doesn't mean you have to make it a throw or hooking ground for speed

Its a 2* map

i play mostly novice servers, and nobos actually use such spots to training their throwing skills lol. atleast i do force them

i didn't say that he should make only those ways, that fix is just unnecesary in my opinion xD removing unfreeze from there won't make it better, why not just leave 3 ways so nobos can also practice in such spots xD

I didnt said remove unfreeze

?

it basically means that it should be removed because it's useless

Ofc its useless cause you don't reach it at all

atleast that's how i got it

No hahahah

It means just useless cause you don't use it. Therefore you do what you prefer.

sure

putting a throw or a hard movement right at the beginning of map.

xDD instant chaos.

1. Throw is the hardest movement for noobs to do. You have to aim, grab tee. Precisly move so he gets near you, while keep holding hook. Hammer at the right time and then release at the right time. While other nobos doesnt know the movemnt to and start moving which makes it impossible to throw cause they move and dont wait.

2. The hooking ground for spee too. You need hook down, move left, then get the speed, release at the right time and then jump at the right time to not get freeze.

if they wanna learn that they can go on novice 5 or kobra as they all do rn. They have those maps to punish themselves and play for 2 h to finish and not enjoying the map. If u wanna make it good then think as a noob and try make the throw or the speedy thing look like it so they know they have to do that.

and trust me i know this cause even on my map "firewatch" at the beginning of map is just 1 small hook

1

xD and they couldnt do

maybe GER players yea

but i went on chinese srv, was a disaster xD

1. i didn't says to make it isntant throw, I do agree that it's one of most hard movement for nobos, it was just an example why it's not useless as you said, since it opens more ways to do the part.

2. This argument is nonsense to me, i played with a lot of newbies which first time opened game, it's pretty much a 2* novice movement for me and that isn't something hard to learn, as the ones with who i played seemed to learn that pretty quick.

Newbies aren't only players playng novice maps, a lot of good players does too, some of em trying to teach them some basic stuff, and this part fits perfectly for that purpose. Removing a part of "useless unfreeze" will not make the map better and will just annoy most of the times xDDD

every map can serve as learning purpose, you shouldnt be forced to go playng annoyng maps like kobra to learn something

🤷‍♂️ he do what he wants, but that part is bad executed. Testers decide i just give suggestions

i kinda agree with that, it doesn't really fit to be a first part especially when it feels blocky

i think the unfreeze is placed correctly

he can make throw parts but maybe mid map or smth, and make it look like a throw so they know what they have to do or "learn"

its not a throw part

it is place correctly agree but it looks like a normal jump so i just said make it just jump and a reaction to jump down cause thats how it looks

you can hook the ground and get extra speed

so speedrunners have to run slow because its a normal speed jump

that was one of my points which was ingored

:")

and you cant do it faster

guys is 2 map not 4-5

what u will add for 4-5* novice maps. No tele all faily? lol

so? because that's a 2* star map other ways shouldn't be executable?

yes ofc!

nobos still will do the part as in intended way, the players who will try to speedrun will feel annoyed bcs "usless freeze" was removed and they have to slow down to fall directly into freeze

agree

but dont make the jump for nobos also annoying, just add 2 more unfreze to the left

as i mentioned u reach only 1 tile (on the 1/2 unfreeze)

everything else keep it what i just said its useles for nobos not for spr xDD

make part cleaner

tha'ts a better solution than removing half unfreeze bcs nobos wouldn't reach it xD

xD

i still think that the first part needs a revamp xD

should I change that part?

maybe add ht down so if you fail hook you can still hook the other

just do something so it's doable as intended, it's fine imo

Hmmn, but ppl can stay on edge right there

if it would be my map i would do something like that :p stoppers aren't needed tho, it just gives extra challenge

change the background, it's too bright and too pink, make it softer

f3

Wait

I'll send another update today

I forget something

Okay

why is there out of nowhere a switch part? it feels kinda offtop and it doesn't make the part better

also it's kinda strange that map is 1.16MB for nothing really. you have a lot of bushes in mapres and you don't need that big variety

you can reduce map size a bit by reducing map's height as you have unused space

my suggestion at reducing map size if you do care about it, otherwise you can just ignore that

• remove grass (i think default grass would look better)
• remove desert_doodas (not worth because it's used only for balks and 2 nodes/ropes in design)
• remove jungle_doodas (i think this one is useless, not worth it)
• remove bushes_small_white (idk why you need 2 mapres with bushes as it doesn't really gives a big impact in design)

• replace desert_doodas with simple generic balks (only use of desert doodas i see in map is because of balks and 2 nodes/ropes which is just not worth)
• replace grass, jungle_doodas and bushes small white with default grass edited by mind. All of these three basically serves as one purpose, but you have 3 of them because of variety which doesn't really matter.

you can just do trace new mapres over old ones, and after you're done just remove the 4 mentioned above.

jungle doodas edited by mind including only grass

generic balks

won't removing external mapres and replacing with embedded increase the file size

all of his mapres are embedded in editor, and as none of testers mentioned that i guessed that they have some changes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/784834749264298035.gif?v=1

Fixed everything, finally I just use two Tiles of deco, 1 for the behind and the second for the front. I delete one type of tile that was useless, thanks

for the advice!

and to the grass main, I reduce the color a bit and the background I make it more softer. idk if the colors are good for the background or nah, because I want that the top was a little purple and the bottom a little pink for the background

I add grass decoration behind freeze too, idk if it looks good or bad

the map looks way better, thought u changed grass a bit so fix all cracks

remove unused mapres

you have grass endings, and i think it will look better

than this

if you want to, ill post some places where i think more design would be good, and this ones looks a bit ugly and empty

okay

balks would be fine imo

kinda empty

micro bug

corners

missing corners and bush bug

i'd suggest in every design place where there are only grass to add more variety in it

maybe that's intentional, but i have a feeling you did miss to place grass there

yeah, that was intentional

Well, fixed all cracks and deco

This, idk how to make it more clean. Thats left

Maybe a half freeze

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Wsike typing

Ye just put rounded freeze

But when I put round freeze doesn't fill at all. I can see the background. A way for a solution that I found it's creating another tile layer with the same color of freeze and add it behind, so will fill all that. idk if doing that will consume more mb

Ill show you in some hours a example, i don't have acces to pc yet

And no, you can try. It wont consume much

You can also fix it by adding 1x4 unhokable tile + 1x1

there are more bugs like that, might be good if you can recheck through map

vers 1

placed like that (basically freeze corner + rounded unfreeze)

vers 2 with unhooks or hook, however you want

and vers 3 just by moving 1 tile <

I like more thiss

"generic_unhookable" and "jungle_midground" images should be External, not Embedded

Why

because these are default images downloaded with client

it only makes your map size bigger

wait with uploading new version of the map, I will post more screenshots to fix

Though if he embeds jungle midground would it be visible for 0.7 players as they don't have it shipped to client?

really? it's never embedded

i mean if making them external, i fk up a bit

XD

it's always external

oh my bad then

sorry for occured confusion xd

played through it quickly

seems like a gucci map

:)

qwea tu map ya lleva mas de un mes XD

esta casi ya, estoy puliendo ultimos detalles

vamosss!

idk if doing this will look cool

I can try but, I need that animation

Need a bit of help with background, I want to make it whit this two colors (Purple and pink) but i can't make it more softer

ok

like this?

I'll send map file in dms

gonnacheck it

Add a white quad in the background and change the opacity of the one infront

Should get a softem color

ok, ready

i would make this ht or a easyer way to go back. Making the whole part ht is more noobfriendly in general if you want to, personally i would do so it does feel more balanced comparatively to other parts

feels out of place

grass tiles xd

same there

also i don't really like when maps starts with consecutive jumps so i made a small suggestion to 3rd part of map xd maybe it will feel more interesting so it's not 3 jumps in a row (if you think the current part on your map is ok then don't change, it's just personal preferences)

Looks good

And the 1 grass tile I put it there, it's for another type of decoration. But if it feels out of place I remove

it kinda does for me but up to you

Alright

Ready

this part, I was thinking in delete 1 line of freeze, for nobos. To make it more easy for nobos

I can try to come up with an idea if u want to

)

suggestion 1 regardless this part:

-made it a bit more interesting, so it's not one jump = one unfreeze

• restructured a bit.
• feels like same part but with + extra movement
• you also can make the freeze to be aledable to annoy speedrunners like i love to do XD
• tried to balance it a bit to fit and previous parts
• tried to clean up it a bit

a bit sad that you din't wanted to change third part of your map but eh :D

Hmmn? How, third part

2nd suggestion regardless this part:

-same part but with more movement -unfaily

• you can make wall full hookable so another player has to jump on you in order to get saved
• a bit easyer

Maybe you will like one of these suggestions and will try to adopt into your part

third part xd

aka this one

, i don't get why something which might have potential you turned into a basic jump xd

that's all i have regardless to this map ^^ good luck with it, p.s sorry if i turned to be annoyng while testing :)

But this I change it

In the update, that part

well it's not changed in current version, thats why i asked about it

Lol

Well, bug

Today I'll send again

Thanks for your feedback !

Map update, hmm I modified a bit the part

Maybe here put grass... idk you choose, for me looks better.

:p

in some places grass is still cutoff

mostly at near end

a nitpick xd, you placed worng unhookable there so it has some visible pixels

also consider adding 1-2 toteles to each spot because one totele might still cause a lot of bounces, and considering it will be played by a lot of nobos will become kinda blocky

xd

I modified the laser part, I mapped different, and fixed some small bugs

Hello and what happened to this map?

grande fruna

I need to put some stars, and idk what other fix need to make

I thonk stars are fine, and probably even ready in my opinion. Just need a real tester to take a look on it :)

Nice

Well, a tester can confirm it if it's everything ok, what left, what I need to change??

remove one freeze layer and remove the laser cause u dont need it after then

I disagree, i believe that on novice parts like these leaving laser is better, as their movement is unstable and just by leaving it it's safer, considering that the map is 2-3*

u get laser on the left

One tee might skip it, or if you want to remove it so badly i believe that making unhook wall above into ht is safer.

Because removing one freeze wall wonxt help thst much as he still would be unreachable if he is braindead and don't press jump, which happens often in novice parts like these from my experience

if you remove that freeze and he walks in u can hook him from the right

which is why the freeze should be removed

he would be reachable then

Makes sense, but the laser was placed there still for a safer save, and if they will try to save, while they hook they most likely will get into freeze, bcs when hooking someone, in that case u can get a bit to < by holding him turning into fail, which happened to a lot of nobos i saw. I'd say making upper unhookables into ht to remove laser is better rather than removing one wall of freeze, but that's just my opinion regardless to 2-3* novices, so

purple = ht; black = remove; should be okay like this then

better

there also many corners missing in design

u should check again for corners

$waiting

uwu

Should I change this part? I think it breaks the flow. For speedrun, I mean

that fall

If you want you can as it will be blocky at beggining but still can be keeped

Fixed corners, first part mapped different and little changes on design. Some corners are made intentionally, corners of the freeze in spawn and some corners at the end

you use a different hook design here, I think that's confusing. stay consistent and use the black border wall like you do everywhere else

Looks bad?

oke

$ready 3

Gratz

NICEEE

WENA FEARZ

Felicidades Fear

Gracias amigos🎉 🎉

Thanks guys for the help in testing, I've learn a lot from mistakes!

wena fearz dsp se topea

justamente👀

xd

My nickname in-game is FeaRZ, it can be changed when my map is out?

typo

sorry fixed

ty for ping

Sorry forget ping, thanks!

Hey, can you Fix R in my nickname pls. in moonlight, mapper name

will do so now