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@markus777777
godlike design
but gameplay is very short and easy
celeste reference
3.63 mb
the new map abyss is 8mb, or at least the version i got
ha.. yeah.. 8mb
you'd wish
(enough off-topic)
rookie numbers
well, theres a lot of short solo maps, like: jajpack, taser, Volt and Mud
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1.slightly changed logo texture 2.merged 2 tile sets 3.added missing tp 4.added high detail support
this map really has no gameplay (this is +- half of the map)
each part can be completed with a double jump and 1 hook to the ceiling or just hooks on the ceiling (except for part with jetpack)
for me this map can't be released with such parts and I don't see any way to improve it except rework and coming up with more interesting parts
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@markus777777
is it possible to change the map mode to fan and release it for this category if you don't have enough gameplay?
honestly the map could be worked with as you put a lot effort into the map already ( design wise mostly ) one of the biggest issues is to differ hookable from unhookable due to their colors and as the map seems very 1* like, you should maybe get rid of the unhookable instead. the parts like jetpack would be broken tho if you had hookable there instead, but you could rework the parts a little to fix that.
the map would also be better if you added more parts. the map is definitely not bad. cp3 and cp6 seem harder than the other parts tho and should be more balanced. cp3 more space for example as its really tight. and cp6 maybe half of the bullets.
you forgot to mark start/finish as well
Hey, I also had a very brief look at your map. While this was being reset I'd probably recommend to you to not get your hopes up too much. As a solo map I personally think that this won't be able to work out but you might think about reworking it to a novice map (preferably 1*) which I could see being decent gameplay-wise if done correctly. Design is great!
is there any chance i could use the design?
mmmm
I wouldn't want that.
But since these textures were taken from the game, and not made manually by me, I don't see a problem using them
But if my map release, I don't think you'll be able to use it :)
you should probably ping him again just in case he doesn't see the other 4
it's just celeste assets, theres tons of themes in celeste u could steal if u wanted
i personally dont like the borrowing of other games assets 1:1 for normal maps but i dont think we enforce anything 🫤
imo map could be nice to play if it was just longer, gives Hook It vibes
It would be at least a little interesting if it had some cool swings or other speedrun strats Rn I dont see how it can be released cuz there is literally nothing to do
it looks like the map is made for total beginners, so ofc thats why there is no complex parts or swing or smth at all
Do we really need this many 1* novice maps? People already play 5 stars in a crowd so I doubt that you need another Linear type map (which arguably has less stuff to do than even Linear)
i dont decide whether we have enough 1* or notðŸ«
i just think the map could be worked out better
Imo this would have to basically be a new map for it to be a nice 1* novice
its solo map
Read the convo above (btw Linear is a solo map as well technically) Doeant matter which category - this map need a total rework in gameplay imo
ah sorry
bugs
just if you didn't know, you can also load quad art into the editor since 19.2(?) under
, might be helpful in some cases, especially if you experience annoying texture bleeding at times
implementing shotgun here instead would be cleaner
i didnt like this gores section since it was gores, could do something more interesting here
its a little weird how the brown dirt is used at the start and barely anywhere else
this can be changed to make picking up the shotgun more comfortable, plus its blocking the checkpoint number
the start section is awkward
i think this would be better
thats basically how it is in celeste
main gripe is that you could actually put Celeste mechanics in the map
especially these blocks and the feather item, also you could do a dash with a really high hook pull and wall elasticity on those blocks with faces idk didnt play celeste
dash = ninja?
the problem with ninja is you can't really restrict its usage without cancelling speed
which is a huge problem
let me state more clearly though, I think this map is fine despite being a bit boring, I just think it's a bit unfortunate that it uses Celeste tileset when you could literally make a Celeste map in ddrace xd
limited jumps is baked into a single tile already
wouldnt it be better to not use hook overall and just use speeders?
aswell as adding those crystals refilling dashes?
I've been thinking about adding mechanics from Celeste or something like that, but I find these ideas questionable and difficult to implement.
Doesnt need to be a 1 to 1 copy of celeste mechanics. Actually its better if its a unique take on them, cuz otherwise I would rather just play celeste
This actually made me think if tp laser has a setting to not lose momentum after teleporting
so, a ninja dash?
Not really, how i see it is you wont change the speed direction after tp
Just imagine blue tps interractions but here you choose where to tp
Sry but, It looks like your 2-year-old is showing you how well he can build a sandcastle
Rude
no i said sry wtf
the shoutgun is not even needed, it feels like walking simulator
i found it hard to tell hookables and unhookables apart while going by fast, maybe a color change would help
these spikes are annoying for shotgun
plus the setup itself is bad, roof on the left can be lowered
its still very easy to miss this shotgun
also you can make it so that the text appears when standing on the memorial
instead of fading in and out
how?
😢
you set para to such a high value that you only see it when standing at a specific spot
we tried, but it looks weird
you can play around with clipping too and try to have it look acceptable
you can just mess with hook tune or ninja with some wall bounce
$change_server fun
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Not fun😕
Not much of a gameplay to look at, feels mostly like hook it but even it had some swings and speedrun strats, here it feels repetitive and kinda raw (just 1 part for jetpack, 2 shots for shotgun). Not a huge fan of copying textures 1 to 1 from a game that is commercial and releasing it on official servers, couldn't find what is the license for the textures in this game but still feels wrong. All in all feels like gameplay could've been better and design is straight up stolen from another game which is weird to me, would've decline but people don't seem to agree on that.
The gameplay is just overall just bland
And the assets seem like 1:1 from celeste
"seem like" they literally are
start area is an exact copy
I have not gotten a close look on this map my bad
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@markus777777
hi, cool design and all, very faithful to celeste which i liked
tho i think the stone tiles should also be unhookable
the gameplay is a bit plain for and 1-dimensional, but with enough polishing it could be good. try to make intentional parts intead of just hooking the ceiling / wall most of the way thru the map (i.e. swings or hooks that you have to plan before-hand that require some cool movement or thinking)
also remove the shotgun and jetpack parts if you're only going to use htem for 1 part
if u want me to clarify more lmk
as i said
1 month ago
Okay, I already realized that the map is bad in terms of gameplay. But is it possible to make it a fun map? Just so people can play and enjoy the music and decor from Celeste.
Just buy Celeste xD
fun maps have gameplay standards too, so it would still need changes. it's not necessarily the category where any solo map not good enough for solo gets put
okay