good map

<3<3

did you read the mapper rules?

sum up is:

• less gay shit
• make parts more understandable without texts

• apply mapper rules

ah yea

is this ok now for first part?

if you aim for "ok", then yea

if you aim for "good", then no

Imo first parts should be spacy easy and handle much tees so there is no Chaos in Team 0

Or is it a teamgorce nobo map?

Its dummy xD

its dummy yeah xd

new version

ofc i didn't put the freeze down

does it seems good to you?

looks messy mapped

but its okay

messy mapped?

what do you think ? 😄

idk it’s a very basic part

yeah

like that everyone can do it right?

so nobody won't give up instantly

but my question is : is it better than the other one?

yes

ok good thanks 😄

I think i've fixed the problems

Update 1 - Changed parts and applied mappers rules

Is second part is possible ? Map looks good ! fix cp

What do y mean by second part ? ^^

nevermind , i was afraid to go more left :/

Ah okay ^^

and cp44 part looks like part from tee swap xD (simular)

Is it?

Whats CP 44 already?

Ah

Yea

I didnt know there was somethin like that in teeswap ^^

i failed

How

dummy teleported i fall down before getting cp

in word and , letter N is weird ( with zoom out)

Ahh shit fail xd

Yeah some lettres are weird idk why

why you need drug dummy down if you can do it up to ?

dummy is teleporting :/ from this teles up :/

you can go just teleport after you get shootgun

flying .... delete speed ups

teleported my dummy back

how to get back ?

how they need to know to hook go left or tele down ?

tele with blocks

bug i teleported here with teleport gun ( not your problem but client /server problem ) but fix it . I just found that i can teleport any blocks :/ only not tiles 98 :/ glitch ?

Wow thank you for having testing that much :D

Ok so i didnt get ur second screen

And the last one i cannot do anything

I dont have this prob

And I bet on the official DDNet server there isnt this problem

And where you are "flying" you can just sg down

But thank you

for the other bugs, it helps a lot ! 😄

Ok, new update, fixed things

told me (except some)

after that teleport gun glitch ( maybe becuase i used super ) i dont wanted to test :/ it confused me

what?

xd

didn't understand

i used F2 super and unsuper maybe thats why i get glitched teleport gun

yeah probably

Ok

New update

fixed things that have been discobered in Open Test yesterday and changed a part that was skippable

Sould i put doodas ?

Tiles fix

?

just to make sure u see ^^

Fixed a useless thing

don't embed vanilla tilesets

and remove unused ones

instead of such constructions, use timed switches

such markings are really pointless.. literally the only way to go... useless markings + entities off signs aren't a good idea, otherwise people won't actually care for the important ones

what's the point in playing parts if you explain every single step? this isn't a novice tutorial map.. let people use their brain to pass parts. that's part of the fun too

invisible telegun marking

you should probably mark the stoppers in case someone is stupid enough to not see the finish and tries to go <<<

(which is technically possible)

btw design and structure is really messy. it doesn't necessarily make the gameplay worse but it makes the map less attractive to play

you can skip first part (and thus hammer-off for dummy, you can use

to disable deepfly)

I think you have parts that require switching to dummy; should be avoided if possible

thank you so much

for testing

so

i don't have good graphics to show that the wall is teleport wall

i tried to create them but i'm not a good graphist xd but i'll look arround how I can fix the fact that we don't see them (mayb put them white?)

on pure telegun maps using a different colored unhook/hook seems to be the way to go

i don't think there's any part where you need to switch to dummy; i changed every part that required dummy to press any key

if you only use it in single parts, that might be confusing tho

ok i'll do that then

ah yea

not sure what's best

and thanks for the

tip

maybe put a glow effect on top of the unhooks

oh yea thats a good idea ^^

but i don't get what do you mean by "design and structure is really messy"

I should keep the "where to aim " right? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/532640575908741141/534362672158867486/unknown.png

dunno, haven't played it

if it's something that you can't figure out yourself, then yes

btw this part is only an example

yeah

you can figure out by yourself, you just need brain to know where to shoot xd

i did that, is it better? ^^

I think the "TO" is reduntant

and I would give it a flashier color

but not a bad idea

flashier color to the text, the back or both?

to the shadow

ok

thanks!

Does this looks better?

or with more space

I think the "TO" is redundant and not intuitive

color is not my thing but works

ah but how to make it more intuitive than "TO" ?

maybe TP ?

not sure if you need to make it more clear

and what if i remove it?

it's ok for me

someone should make a nice telegun marking

yeah, someone good at design 😂

ok good for that, now does it really matter if the first part is skippable ? Because since now i'm using

I don't think its a big deal, furthermore its not that simple to skip cauz you need to put dummy right wall and go left wall

so

i still don't get "design and structure is really messy"

you didn't follow a clear design philosophy, shapes aren't natural, generic unhook is just spammed weirdly, tight spots containing a lot stuff

wow

so i should make more organic shapes with more space?

you should look at other maps to get an idea of whats good

i thought I made enough space

I think aurora is similar style

ok

oh ok i see

didnt read what others wrote so maybe i got the same as them

i'd add the speeder on the upper wall, because it feels weird hooking your dummy out from the speeder down.

add timed switchers everywhere u did something like this

this feels really hard, i'd suggest to lower the teles a little bit

i'd move totelecp 37 a little bit to the right so it's not annoying to do the run back there

tele in wall

you can hit the shield and loose your grenade but not hitting the switcher resulting in a stupid situation

entities off (basically every care sign)

freeze in unhook ( looks stupid with entities )

you sure you wanna do a faily edge jump part like this - in an otherwise not so faily map?

there are many cases like this where you put freeze on teles, either you put freeze on every tele or remove every freeze on every tele

again entities off, also this part feels really caustrophobic, it's also kinda hard to hammer dummy in that place, i'd suggest you remove the unhooks above the hooktrough

when you land on the cptele you land in china, i'd suggest you add a seperate cp here and replace the tele50 with cps aswell

you can remove the right layer of endless hook i guess

dont need endless on in tele (keep endless off tho)

stupid fail if you land in freeze since the wall is kinda small chances are high you land in the freeze

remove stoppers from teles, also this part is kinda annoying and hard to compared to the rest of the map

unmarked endless jump and a little bit to the left unmarked stoppers

pretty sure there are some more points than that, i just briefly looked over the map

some really great parts, but also some kinda annoying parts, all in all with a little bit of rework it could be a great dummy map, good job :P

ok so first of all thank you so much

!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/532640575908741141/534458595425648660/e8a55ff6bbe14108b67ce05324d806c4.png

said that if you are at this state there's no need to put an entities off sign since you should know that its faily

but for the rest I pretty much agree 😄

but

i don't get ur first screen ^^

Ok, so

Almost everything that

said is fixed Fixed everything that

said Changed the shapes to be more organic and added doodads Added a logo + mapper name

what i meant was you can move this speeder here to the upper wall, because it feels weird/clunky hooking your dummy out of that speeder

to this place

just a minor thing tho^^

Ooh ok thanks ^^

fixed

Oops, forget to add the secret way at the end

Should be fixed

small fix

fixed bugs at last part and changed it a bit

release ? xD

want to play it released

😄

still waiting ^^

release faster i want to play new maps ! Release my maps too !

😂

||hoya||

Any updates?

|| zero ||

Nice 😂

update incoming

new stuff

( many fixes thanks to

)

fixed graphics

some fixes again

good map I would say..

did you used super ?

Oh i see problem xD

This is no more in updated version ^^

but thanks

^^

i did before but the jumping in and stuff was not with super, my dummy fell in and touched the switches so i got dragged weirdly

Can it be put on TEST Server pls? 😄

should be up

thanks 😃

pretty cool map. maybe it needs some more balancing but i already told archimede what i dont like. rls when

Ok, so new update:

• some fixes thanks to

• changed bits of parts

so basically i need to recreate the map, but better mapped, shorter and smaller?

you don't need to

but if you redo it with a clear structure and everything, it would improve the map a lot

Yea but if I need to redo it then its recreating it

But i'll make it shorter and everything

tu dois fix tout ce que je t'ai montré aussi eh

Btw i played the map with the mapper and I liked it , even if balance is kinda bad as corneum said

3* would be ok i think

just a question, where can I find the tune zone parameters ? Like hammer strength etc?

https://ddnet.tw/settingscommands/

thanks!

new version incoming

new everything

• new parts
• clear structure
• clear design
• better mapped i guess?
• not that long

and a big thanks to

Very good map, much better than the old version imo i found some mistakes i think

remove tele

up this cp

we can just swing dummy in and let him fall down

up these cp

and maybe put these switch upper cuz we can fail if dummy is dead

i hope my english is understandable >.>

and maybe put turn entities off here

Thaaannnkss

!

Your advices are good ones, thanks a lot 😀

fixed bugs

said + some others 😄

stoppers next to start are skippable with enough speed

logo isn't dilated

why grass_main_0.7? you can't really see much of it anyways

you can probably just use 1 section of the unhook tileset, make it white and then get rid of the other 2

Hmmm

what is the pb with grass_main_0.7? Unused tiles or something?

And what is a logo dilated?

I agree for the unhook, i didnt think of that :)

I'll see for the stoppers

grass_main_0.7 adds size because you have to embed it

to dilate the logo drag and drop the image on dilate.exe (in ddnet folder)

rework is a lot more clean, but still has quite some problems

Oh yea i forgot about it

Thanks

And i'll try to use the default grass ^^

In fact, what are the skippable stoppers ?😅

next to spawn on the left

horizontal ones

Ah

Ok

you need to use a distinct marking for hook tele

wrong color

what does this color mean?

unused + selected

ohh 😂

thanks xd

did u notice other bugs?

didn't look for bugs

i fixed the ones u told me

upload fixed version then

fixed stuff 😃

bad tele

wut

nice map !

working on some fixes

• reduced file size a bit
• fixed telegun off skip
• changed unhook color to be a bit brighter
• fixed some other bugs

fixed 2 little bugs

• fixed infinite corner design bug
• fixed another design bug

part should end here

cp 33 is too long

would remove shield on cto 37

what are all these stoppers for also, you can use 1/2s freeze to make waiting less annoying

laser is easy to keep here since you can align on the ceiling

nvm there is a shield below

which means the shields below cp 43 are superfluous

unfreeze in both game and freeze layer

no way to know you have to go left first; and if you don't do it, you're dead

don't mark good to teles

use blue arrow instead of entities off

pretty cool map and part ideas. but as jao already said some parts are a bit too long

map it like this and hint the tune zone somehow

actually better use hookthrough instead of stopper

Hellooooo! Thanks for having tested :)

The only thing i do not understand really is the "laser easy to keep"?

But for the other things I pretty much agree and will fix them this evening 😀

ignore the laser thing

Okay ^^

"all these stoppers" are to force the player to use laser when he needs to drag the dummy up (right part)

and what's "don't mark good to teles" for?

why would they be marked

which one?

can you show me an example ? :x

before finish

ah yea ok

but i think its the only one?

ah no

there's another

• fixed jao's screens

(except the stoppers thing)

• fixed design bug
• added some tele's

• fixed the stuff

told me

• should be ready 😄

okay

, i'm free from today until this weekend, tell me when you wanna test to see if there's still some things to fix 😄

• changed normal freeze in laser part to 1s freeze
• fixed the freeze inside the "no shoot area" in telegun part

pls dont delete

Nice map, I liked playing it. I only spotted a few little things that should be fixed: checkpoint #17 should not be skippable, "back" teles should be made with normal tele and not checkpoints

if your dummy falls into this spot the save system doesn't work and it's the most likely place to fail

move marked ground up or down 1 tile, it's in such a place that if you drop dummy it's possible to save but very hard

missing endless hook tile

Thank you a lot

😄 I'll work on these fixes as soon as possible ^^

i need to put the back tele with CP's because if he falls into the tele of the previous part he needs to go back again so its a bit boring no?

No, it's just a bit weird if you get checkpoint without touching cfrm and then go touch another cfrm somewhere else

oh ok

its all fixed then

• fixed bugs that Ravie find out

if you could just fix entity bugs in this part, map should be ready

oh yes of course i didn't see them xd

• fixed entity bugs

$ready 3

fuuck there's a bug

this is not working 😦

• fixed freeze (sorry about that 😦 )

?

When does that happen

And why

xDD

Oops

• fixed this lil bug

and

normally the telegun makes you tp on the tee so you bumb up

Yea

I did exactly that

Yet it failed me like that 1/3 times

you have to do it while the dummy is mid air?

It wasn't midair

But the 2 times it worked it wasn't midair either

I actually did manage to replicate it on test

For example if you dj before your gun hits

But on my screenshot I still had dj

this is strange

i guess you really need to do it carefully

Also if you fall down and shoot the feet

You bounce off to the right

xD

sounds more like a telegun bug than a bug with the map

Yup

Tried like over 200 times on test could only get the same fail once

you can send the demo if you have it

• fixed a stupid failable thing

which is?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/295908390956433410/574646355843350543/unknown.png?width=1208&height=676

these '4 FROM' tiles looks wrong

y map not well tested xd

map very well tested

u crazy

i tested it once

so yeah it is very well tested

• fixed '4 FROM' tele and replaced them by stoppers

dang it - we cannot see everything

• fixed an entities mistake

this was hookable xd

did you take the live ver?

looks like no

please fix it in the version on the servers

Okay, just why is it different ?

Or how?

I fixed something too

Oh ok, what was it,? ^^

a missing cp

Oh ok

• fixed from live version

wtf is happening here

Skyventure has been released a little bit fast>.>

There's just little bugs that we do not necessarily see right away

amm ok

?

what is the point of this screen ?

i cant see a ll tees on the picture. distance matters

oh

my dummy is too far

why you jumped in tele lol

where is ur dummy ??

if you are here that means that you wanted it

there's no other way to get to this situation, unless it's a bug then you need to tell me

...

what about switch ?

just look when its open or not?

waited too long :/

that's ur fault

not map's fault

bad cp 49 i always tp 33

u dumb then