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Wartoz, bg colors don't really fit, you should try tweak them a bit, perhaps something like this. Using "Adobe palette color" can help you have different spectrum of the same color so everything fits nicely.

Also imo, black freeze with 100 alpha and a stronger blue tele color that you have fits better (up to you ofc)

• I'm sure there's gonna be a crowd of ppl here trying to do the part at once (specially nobos) and its right at the beginning

• Give a bit more space here to react and do the part, feels a bit tight

• Again this movement is hard for novice

Okey playing through it i found more and more xD why did you make everything so tight? also there are hard movements for novice throughout the map, this "maybe" is 5 stars, prob more.

• Both need laser here, you should mark it or force it both to take without going backwards

• This catch here, annoying and hard for beginners, make more room at the bottom (put tele more down)

Also it's a bit repetitive, you used the wall hammer tech for almost all parts xD its like 12 times

yes, needs signs in some places too, although that its a bit hard drag tbh but yes signs, or make it easier and noticeable where to hook.

the logo and the presentation (by wartoz etc..) are too big

there are a lot of parts of the map which i felt uncomfortable, and were just 2p

for example here, this may be ok because is a gore, but anyways

1.- more of the same that i was talking about 2.- the drag feels really weird, make itmore natural i guess

same here, quite the problem if there are more than 10 players

tele not marked

you have not putted the freeze tile on the stoppers which if you look at the entities there are freeze tiles, be accurate. Also looks really weird when the stoppers are behind the tee and not on front of him

allow to the novice player to be able to get on top faster and easier

True . Didn't think about it .

how many of the players will need laser?

really bad part, again too tight

the map looks ok, not crazy gameplay, but you cant expect more from novices. I wouldnt decline it, need fixes in most of the parts because of the space issue

the freeze sometimes it gets mixed with the background, so change it a bit

the tele tiles looks really bad like this, i mean put them some inner corners or something

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cool color plz tell me RGB/HSL?

xD a bit to late, i closed tw and didnt saved the map with the colors, i did it quite randomly fast

sure but I've already blended that color 😄

so you dont need it anymore or?

I don't really understand what you mean. QuiX

yeah i don't need

Okey cool 🙂

I'm gonna go do some reading comprehension in English. My English sucks. xD

xD gl!

hum A lot of the problems are caused by multiplayer, so I'm thinking of adding a team command to allow up to two people to play together.

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This should be easily fixable by removing these hook-troughs?

how to complete part original way then ?

also maybe more space down 1+ block at least ( not expert yet )

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Oh yeah I did not see the stoppers behind the unfreeze.

can't get up for novice maybe hook here

maybe make this room bigger ?

idea for part

second player just hooks once to get him out . need to make somethink more then just one hook .

tele here ? if you fail .

suggestion for tele here .

this part is easyer then this

skip not fixed

you can comeback with tele 15

no corner , hard to hook you can get in freeze

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bugs . part not fixed . ( both can go up )

so it's hook or unhook left ?

missing turn off entities tile

grass pixel

freeze

The ht tile here is different from everywhere

There should be a sign here to tell the players that this is the place to return

corners

look better

if you are going to spam hammer on the wall while the other player press d (a) + jump do it interesting

put this sign there too

1.- move this more to the right to fix the space issue on (2)

do something different on 1 and change 2

freeze missing

use an indication that both need laser

simpler but better executed

as i said, try different ways to execute parts, is too repetetitive to do the same thing over and over

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fix some bugs

thanks for testing

Exactly where is it duplicated?

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1183044134064369724/1201354792220495972

You mean The hammer?

In every part xd

i don't get point of these stoppers, i can guess that tee that hooked the ceiling have to hit another tee on stopper, but tee with hook can just go to right and other tee go in 9 tele without using any stoppers

don't see point in this stoppers either

imo map is fun... but some issues are there. gameplaywise i found these things:

designwise i would recommend to replace the gras main from ravie since its bugged.

design bugs:

but all in one good map, design looks very clean and friendly.

u dont want a solo way up here?

still 2x "turn off entities" at start when only 1 is needed. otherwise rdy for rls imo

not marked unfreeze

part is still cheatable

i don't think it's good , too hard part (jump from stopper with other guy hamming you ) .

• Move this like this (or only 2 blocks down) so they have a bit room for try, the way you have it now it requires tiny bit of timing.

not marked unfreeze

• I know its obvious but put an arrow there " -> "

• This down part i think its still pretty hard compared to the rest difficulty

make tele bigger so you can see it better

• This part can be confusing for novice, also they can fail like this, if the fall in the pit

• Also a bit weird totele placement, maybe redesign the area a bit and put the totele on the platform of part

more space also it's hard to get guy there out

• Again a bit hard timing, need release at the right time so it gets in hole with the right speed

• Make it so its a easier to put deep tee in

at the start stars look normal, but when you reach finish there are barely any stars left, i would rearrange them

I don't think novice players will know that they need to hold right and jump button and you used it in around all map this . I think it's big problem in this map . ( that's what i think at least )

• This is tricky part too, the catch, move teles more down, and also the totele again a bit bad placement, if they miss and miss they have to do a little jump everytime which can be little annoying

• This can be little tricky for novice, specially when they reach up and try to hook ceiling but fail and need redo xD Better add a small area to land on the left (blue), add unhookables on that corner (red) and add 1 tile of ht more (yellow). This will make it easier to time the hook for the other tee, and easier to keep dj for the top section.

• Here you can do it like this, it gives more room to player and also dont really need it as you have it right now

You have it like this right now, and its a bit buggy on the right (freeze) but i suggest make more room here, no need that thing on the right anyway

• How is this exactly supposed to be done?

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wow, i disagree with 80% of the screenshots where u guys said "its to hard", "a novice player dont know that" its not like that you get a finish for free... let them find out about stuff too.

also its not a 1 novice map where everything needs to be explained. parts imo are pretty balanced and well mapped for a 3-4 player

brother you have 0 clue how novice players plays xD

most of the movements here are hard

map is like 4-5* novice, and the difficulty of parts vary a lot. Most (if not all) what i mentioned are qol, not asking to modify parts completely, but slightly make them look like same difficulty

some 1 parts, some 3 some 5*...

You just don't remember how you struggled when you started playing . And i have mentioned few things and one hard part . The correct timing for guy to hammer when other is jumping from stopper . It's to crazy ...

disagree, play a lot novice with nobos x)

also read my message again, i said i disagree with parts u think its to hard, not where u mention other stuff x)

like this, totally fine

this totally fine

easy aswell

this cheat takes much more time, totally fine imo

As i said only tweaking, not changing the actual part, but moving down the teles 1 or 2 tiles doesnt hurt anybody, if they just stay on platform trying to catch them as it is now, they always fall in tele xD

and yeah i agree on this, texnonik xD thats totally fine parts 🙂

I sayd that's what i think at least

Again, just qol, it is not hard (for us) but if u see them trying hook others and specifically puting them in a 3 tiles gap you will laugh xD (and even more if it's deep like here)

the cheat is also fine yeah, nobos wont know that they can go back and cheat next part, which i think its almost the same lenght so idk if its actually a cheat xD

bugged tileset (grass)

corner bug

thanks

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bot is dead

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Thanks QuiX

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• Missing unfreeze gametile here

turn off entities tile here

design bug

turn off entities here too

many places with missing grass

that's not all but just to get the idea

wierd hookable design, maybe just leave it as unhook?

freeze in tele

same thing

still don't see point in this stoppers, and now tee almost always gets stuck in it

part can be executed a lot better, especially the bottom part

freeze + stoppers at the bottom completely useless and can be changed to unhookable

though both ways upper tee can hook you through

would be better to move this freeze 2-3 tiles up

i've realized that i'm not even sure what this sign here for

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hum

old bug many

Fix

• What happened here? removed the way up why?

• Unfreeze here a bit weird, if you play with design you have no clue where you unfreeze and looks weird, either just remove it or add more on the sides

• Wrong ht block

• Here too

• No grass on unhook

• There is no point for this ht if you have stoppers above

• idk if this is important/intended or not, but i didn't see in other places on the map that you can unfreeze mid air looks weird when u unfreeze like this, if you want them to unfreeze if they swing in, just move those down where is empty

• Wrong ht block and corner on the left side

• Extra freeze here (entities)

• This is not really important change if you like only (not gameplay related) but here the top looks kind of empty and slightly different grass structure than the rest of the map, idk you can add on left or right like you did everywhere a small platform with bit of decoration

• There is 2 extra unhook in entities there

• Extra unhooks here (entities)

• Extra unhook here (entities)

• Extra unhooks here (entities)

• Forgot some unfreeze here

Thats all from me couldnt find anything else (i still have concern about 2 parts but its fine). Fix all design bugs etc and wait for a tester to do some final checks to see if it needs any gameplay changes 👍 good map and good changes you made

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Thanks S1mple & QuiX Test

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check some of the images, there are still things not changed 👍

Fix

why would you want a back?

tho, if u want to keep it, use a sign that says back

how would you go back here if the other player is already on freeze?

with 2 is enoug

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1.- time cps missin 2.- this sign is just for entities, do a real one for regular design

the color of the grass doesnt match with the others. make them a bit darker

should be enought if the unfreeze is on the totele

use a back sign here too

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done

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65BC8AFF

looks better iguess

maybe you should lift the mountains

with 2 is enough

• Either try Arrow's suggestion of moving mountain ups, or try this color for grass 80E1A8FF

useless stopper

move the cp to there

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this hook feels uncomfy for a novice map

hook would feel better if the plat was lower as it is really slow right now

i think this is a great novice map with some easier kind of moderate starting moves and could be well rated at 4-5*in my opinion. pretty chill map for every kind of difficulty players :D

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dm

Thanks J$ON for testing

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$ready 5

First ready set by Trial Tester. It needs to be tested again by an official tester before fully evaluated.

The map it has too much weight

for what you have on your map, try to optimize it first

i would still make a hint here, even if is 5 star

the corner of the tele

you could make the moon a lil bit smaller so gives the impression that is far

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Include a changelog after uploading map updates (preferably with screenshots).

not that

xD

optimize it by deleting parts of the mappres

like you have not use all the freeze tiles, just use the ones that are needed

ok iam try

i usually modify the freeze tileset with the tiles that ill use

Include a changelog after uploading map updates (preferably with screenshots).

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shouldnt there be a entities off sign at x:340 y:180 ?