#Gridlock
"Gridlock" by pHzin12 [Novice]
DDNet 05/04/2025 4:09 PM

Mentions:

@hamburguer8421
DDNet 05/04/2025 4:09 PM
DDNet 05/04/2025 4:09 PM

Map 🐞:

vena6080 05/04/2025 4:13 PM

this is unreadable in entities too much spam

vena6080 05/04/2025 4:13 PM

the cp in the spawn are useless, the space is not well used (too tight)

vena6080 05/04/2025 4:14 PM

the first and second parts are cheatable

nixuslegendary 05/04/2025 4:14 PM

XDDDDD

vena6080 05/04/2025 4:14 PM
nixuslegendary 05/04/2025 4:14 PM

insane map

ybivawka 05/04/2025 4:14 PM

hi, unfortunately we don't release such maps. try to avoid spamming special tiles and checkpoints, read the mapping rules and guidelines, make the gameplay more interesting. you can take the latest released novices as an example to understand what quality will be satisfactory.

vena6080 05/04/2025 4:14 PM

the jetpack and the entities placement are useless

vena6080 05/04/2025 4:14 PM

and lot of other problems

DDNet 05/04/2025 4:15 PM

Mention:

@hamburguer8421
nixuslegendary 05/04/2025 4:15 PM
#👶the_forest

pls ><

vena6080 05/04/2025 4:15 PM

it was my pause, i have my exam tomorrow

nixuslegendary 05/04/2025 4:16 PM

ooh ok

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 8:20 PM

Updated map

DDNet 05/05/2025 8:21 PM
hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 8:23 PM
@nixuslegendary

, can u see my update?

nixuslegendary 05/05/2025 8:24 PM

I'm not a tester

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 8:25 PM

alr, thx... can u talk to him pls?

oxyzo. 05/05/2025 9:05 PM

Testers do this in their free time

oxyzo. 05/05/2025 9:05 PM

Wait for people to review this

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 9:08 PM

alr thx for attention

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 9:15 PM

this map isn't even releasable anyway since its like 60x30

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 9:15 PM

takes like 20 seconds or just zoom out twice to see the entire map XD

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 9:15 PM

???

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 9:16 PM

the new one u mean?

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 9:16 PM

I'll have to test when I get home. How much longer is it even?

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 9:16 PM

bro 2 minutes 13 secs I made with my friend

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 9:16 PM

not kidding

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 9:17 PM

...okay?

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 9:17 PM

theres some tricky parts

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 9:17 PM

i just made it go from [Novice] --> [Moderate]

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 9:17 PM

i will look, im not really sure there's enough space if it's mapped in the same style

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 9:17 PM

oh boy

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 9:18 PM

I'm headed home

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 9:18 PM

nah, I increased size

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 9:18 PM

btw, being accepted or not glhf!

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:21 PM
gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:22 PM

this is not even the same map anymore?

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:22 PM

either way it's not worth releasing

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:22 PM

faily for no reason, big no-no in novice

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:23 PM

you want noobs to time a hook in a 1x1? lmao

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:23 PM

even as a moderate move, this is just artificially difficult

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:23 PM

not fun

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 10:23 PM

can I try uploading it but change the diff

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 10:23 PM

?

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:23 PM

basically just glassbox.

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:23 PM

no

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:24 PM

was both a boring solo and 0.5 seconds long

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 10:24 PM

wdym??😭

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:24 PM

this map is still incredibly small, all the parts are like 2 hooks or just jump

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 10:24 PM

that's sadly true btw...

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:24 PM

2x 4t gores in novice also a no-no

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 10:25 PM

I know that's actually not novice... I remade the map entirely, from zero.

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:25 PM

again dont like this, there's no spot to save (btw you cant just take a novice map that gets owned and then change it to moderate)

alw5 05/05/2025 10:25 PM

too short

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 10:26 PM

what if I make it longer?

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:26 PM

why do you even need the walljump?

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:26 PM

these parts are not even interesting

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:27 PM

you changed it to moderate but you're saying the player shouldn't be able to throw there

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:27 PM

every player ever would throw at moderate level

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 10:27 PM

try it with friends... playing as dummy is actually boring... I already finished it, with dummy and friends.

alw5 05/05/2025 10:27 PM

might need to make it longer and better structure

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 10:28 PM

it was lot better

alw5 05/05/2025 10:28 PM

we are

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 10:28 PM

i know

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 10:28 PM

oh...😑

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:28 PM

no place to land after the solo plus the unfreeze just strips your dj so trying to fall slowly is hard

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:29 PM

im treating this as a novice, you cant just swap difficulties if it doesnt get released

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 10:29 PM

that's what I'm saying

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:29 PM

im hopefully giving you some criticism so that your future maps will be better, im not trying to be rude or anything

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 10:29 PM

I know

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:29 PM

this actually is fine really

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 10:29 PM

I appreciate your tips

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:29 PM

but it could be mapped wider

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:30 PM

so that there's more space to land

alw5 05/05/2025 10:30 PM

i feel like the map is a bit tight but just might be me

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:30 PM

this is the only part i like basically

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:30 PM

but yeah, small, all parts are not new or interesting, needs more spacing for noobs

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 10:30 PM

yeah... I made it 100x50 so it's really small

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:30 PM

it feels okay to play but we are used to awkward maps. novice should not feel like this

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:31 PM

even if the parts are bigger, there's barely any parts to it and you can finish quickly like a glassbox. we dont really release maps like this

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:31 PM

there are exceptions sure but those exceptions have been made in the past and we've moved to new territory

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 10:31 PM

I'll increase size and redo some parts that are unfair for novices...

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 10:31 PM

Just to get released...

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:31 PM

i think it would be best to focus on more part ideas, consider testing more often and sharing in

#mapping
gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:31 PM

just spamming maps in testing category is not a good way to build rep, imo

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:31 PM

which it sounds like you really want to do

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:32 PM

i also didn't play with dummy, CurlyMorgan is a friend

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:32 PM

hopefully this helps 🙂 if you want more specific feedback i can try to elaborate

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:34 PM

most important thing i want to say is that you should not be focused on "just getting it released" you should want to make a quality map that you are proud of and submit for that reason. dont admit that you just want a map released only

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 10:34 PM

thx and just to know, if my map gets released (that's not the case) can I change its structure?

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:34 PM

no, for ranks to be preserved

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:34 PM

maps cant really change after they are released

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:34 PM

except in rare circumstances

hamburguer8421 05/05/2025 10:36 PM

alright!

gorp_tw 05/05/2025 10:40 PM

i hope you continue to map. many people who post a map here and get rejected lose a lot of confidence and then they never try again. i think you can always improve 😄

wee.tw 05/06/2025 12:42 AM

Hi, i justed tested ur map, cuz wanted to give some advices. So yeah, basically pay attention to everything that has been said before:

,

. So i see kinda "Glassbox" vibes on this map, and actually it's a bad maps from which you can get inspired, they were released hella bunch of years ago and not really cool to play today. So i suggest you to take an example from such maps as:

if u want your parts to be more complicated but easy

if u like parts with a lot of space for basically more players

if u want to your parts be creative, but kinda hard

if u want to make a speedrun-like map with easy parts I'm not saying you should copy parts or shouldn't make something yourself, no, just we have a lot of maps that is tested by time And also i need to say that novice maps have a higher standards because it should be mapped for new players that don't really know how to play and just learning it, so this maps can't be low quality or really hard and punishing >> https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1325407774519332946/1343252335777812677

but give more attention to visibility, try to make everything visible, but without highlighting it with bright acidic colors, etc. stick to a few colors, make variations from them. GL!

hamburguer8421 05/06/2025 9:14 AM

thx for it!

hamburguer8421 05/06/2025 10:21 PM

(I hope) its the last time I update it... thx for supporting my determination!

DDNet 05/06/2025 10:21 PM
hamburguer8421 05/06/2025 10:23 PM

I made it quite bigger, like doubled the size

hamburguer8421 05/06/2025 10:23 PM

oh, and I sent the wrong one! sry

hamburguer8421 05/06/2025 10:23 PM
DDNet 05/06/2025 10:23 PM
DDNet 05/06/2025 10:23 PM
hamburguer8421 05/06/2025 10:24 PM

what?? alr tho

hamburguer8421 05/06/2025 11:02 PM

bruh, lemme see if it go

DDNet 05/06/2025 11:02 PM
hamburguer8421 05/06/2025 11:03 PM

i promisse its the last one I post for update

vappy19 05/06/2025 11:38 PM

👀

hamburguer8421 05/06/2025 11:53 PM
hamburguer8421 05/06/2025 11:53 PM

damn... I'm nervous!

hamburguer8421 05/06/2025 11:54 PM

idk if it's good... Or even balanced.

hamburguer8421 05/06/2025 11:54 PM

I'm not pro at map making

hamburguer8421 05/06/2025 11:54 PM

I just follow some tips and other maps that I like

DDNet 05/07/2025 2:49 AM
jsontw 05/07/2025 3:12 AM

Hey pHzin,

your map got declined already and wee :0 suggested you some different kinds of maps to get inspiration from.

This map is far away from those maps and far away from being released. You should really look at those other Novice or Moderate maps to see what makes them interesting and fun to play.

You said you played your map with friends already and they liked it. I'm not sure about that because your map was really hard to look at and its gameplay is worse than all of our released Novice maps.

Also when you only need less than 1 day to create a map, you can be sure that its quality won't be great.

As a mapping beginner and beginner player in DDRace you should play way more maps to get a feeling for what is good and what is bad. Looking at the first version of your map, you don't really know when to use special tiles and how to map them properly. The spacing issue persists and the parts are nothing special.

That's why I highly recommend you to play more maps in general and to look at our recently released Novice maps and see what is different from yours.

Please don't submit your map again after some changes. Take the advice and gain more experience in mapping and playing. Focus on mapping 1 fun/creative part which has the comfortable space and offers some challenging gameplay for Novice players, instead of speed-mapping some garbage💀

You will progress by mapping parts with an idea behind it and you will notice that they will actually be nice to play.

Recently released Novice maps are: Diversity by Gazebr Axison by texnonik EasyRight 3 by texnonik Grell by xewoiy Cliff Charge by Kaniosek El Quisco by Colo-Colo Mint by 寒鸦 & Wartoz

jsontw 05/07/2025 3:15 AM

Btw. this part doesn't work solo as you remove the jumps from the player. You would need to give the player 2 jumps back. Endless jumps wouldn't work because he can't even jump once when you remove them.

Anyway that part has no flow as it is and is not fun xd

DDNet 05/07/2025 3:15 AM

Mention:

@hamburguer8421
jsontw 05/07/2025 3:18 AM

Avoid mapping these long boring paths. We don't host gores maps, please avoid mapping that much gores. Some is okay in your map, but right now it just makes the look that your map has no idea behind it.

nameless_me 05/07/2025 6:10 PM

J$ON is a good map tester, gave reason when declined

nixuslegendary 05/07/2025 8:34 PM
@hamburguer8421

create another map based on new maps (without copying parts)

tatak0434 05/08/2025 10:15 AM

Who you thinking about, huhh?

DDNet 05/14/2025 8:23 PM
hamburguer8421 05/14/2025 8:37 PM

updated map, it's been a while... hope its good rn! btw, thx for all reviews and feedbacks.

DDNet 05/14/2025 8:37 PM
jsontw 05/14/2025 8:49 PM

Ur map is declined thx

jsontw 05/14/2025 8:49 PM

Read what is written above and acknowledge it

jsontw 05/14/2025 8:50 PM

U simply gotta gain more experience

jsontw 05/14/2025 8:51 PM

Your map won‘t be anywhere close to be releasable so the testing process is done here.

jsontw 05/14/2025 8:53 PM

You can’t gain that much experience and a good feeling for high quality parts in just a few days.

I‘m just telling you that the result in testing is gonna be the same

hamburguer8421 05/14/2025 10:08 PM

alr, I actually read messages above... so do I post it again? U at least opened the map?

hamburguer8421 05/14/2025 10:08 PM

I'm just asking...

gazebr 05/15/2025 4:39 AM

You will have to post a new map, but as it was already said please look at more maps that were released recently before mapping again. If you just create another similar map with outdated gameplay it will simply be declined again

jsontw 05/15/2025 9:49 AM

Focus on making these 2 parts great and then keep mapping more of em

jsontw 05/15/2025 9:50 AM

You don't even need to do the right part of it.. Both can just fall down

jsontw 05/15/2025 9:50 AM

You could cheat here

jsontw 05/15/2025 9:50 AM
jsontw 05/15/2025 9:51 AM

Also the part doesn't offer anything gameplay wise what another map doesn't offer already

jsontw 05/15/2025 9:51 AM

Or at least something as good

jsontw 05/15/2025 9:52 AM

And your map shouldn't be 80% solo gameplay. Just look at other newer Novice maps to see what is different.

They have way more parts, they have nice structure overall, they don't just spam gores/jetpack parts to make the map longer.