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I haven't played many dummy maps but some parts really feel 2 tight like on Image 1 having to lift the dummy up on like 4 tiles (the ones that are down) makes it so u bump a lot maybe im just bad but it feels way 2 hard.

Image 2 I mean the 2 tiles are fine but going into that one tile w/o dj and having to hook the hookable up there it may need to be nerfed

Image 3 Maybe i did it wrong but doing a 4 tile drag then going over the other side to get the dummy and go back again to make him wall, not only that i have to drag him between the kill tiles to wall him and go back again. I dont think anything else than the 4 tile drag is a lil hard but it feels annoying.

Im not a tester maybe my feedback is trash but i hope it helps much love ❤️

I think if you add contrast a bit more it would be better. Because right now the background layers blend into each other too much imo

The 3 was a throw and hook to put in deep wall (>)

can escape the map through here

U can't do nothing really out of map but I'm gonna fix next version

the secondbrushes?

like the brush back of tiles?

any like this can look better i think

Now is much better imo, but maybe make it a bit darker to more contrast

i think is better only change tree color

the other brush is fine

Yes, I mean that. Now it's looks better

-changed tree color https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1508984322437415134/1509112343538434189 -nerfed 3 tiles https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1508984322437415134/1509060881961582612 (3) -Added deep to prevent map escape https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1508984322437415134/1509169527185735810

w map bro

fr

w mapper

i found some designs error im gonna fix in 10m

changed deep for stoppers bc with deep u cant see the door

and added some corners

added 2 stoppers to prevent "skips"

dont ask what i changed

what u change?

🤫

:´v

put more spikes

design change

peak!

change i just do nothing 🗣️

I just finished the new version and I think it's worth 2-3 stars

these kill tiles are annoying since with so little space you dont have a lot of controll over the throw which results in unnecesary deaths

can skip getting switch on 6 by pulling and edging here

maybe remove that freeze it feels unnecesarily tight

dont need this dj

also very confusing part

or i just did it wrong

not a fan of these kill tiles they are on the perfect height to make you almost always hit them

if you fail the throw up you need to go back here to allign the dummy with the left wall again which is annoying maybe make the kill tile one down so you dont have to allign him again

the kill tile in question

or add one more stopper

both works

maybe move that part 2 to the left so that if you throw him into the wall he falls pefectly, its way more enjoyable this way

extend this wall its way too ez to hit the kill when trying to wall there

because you need to let go dummy early here he fell like this once maybe extend the wall

U need

Not really if u hook from up a little late don't touch the spike is intended

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1508984322437415134/1510180441653645462 https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1508984322437415134/1510177774026100776 can show how u skips and how u do the part like a video to see

Bc your "skip" is really more hard and don't skip nothing important

in personal opinion, this map is unnecessarily tight for no reason, and the pace of the map is so fast that i got distracted while i play. it would be better if you slow the map's pace a bit and widen some spaces

there are the thing i feel tight especially

also you can widen these part for better experience in playing

this platform rather confuses people. since you can do the part without it, i think its better to remove it

feels needed to expand starting point space, with many people it would be chaos though it is a dummy map and it is a team-forced to do the map

Mmm

Ok more late I go some changes and I up it

i have one question about this too

how you pass without the plataform

bc when u up you lose dj

and cant pass i think

can keep dj

show!

can save jump here and thats what i did

not removing it is fine but it would be good to force to use dj at there

but u use this to up XD

or how you save dj can show video or demo xd

this part u can do fall in wall if u throw and hook from the other side

the first image too

what part more specific is tight

this?

do this part biggers https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1508984322437415134/1510296503573549107 more big spawn too https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1508984322437415134/1510298543863369779 added one more block https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1508984322437415134/1510184386589626549 nerfed https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1508984322437415134/1510178874502418563 fixed https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1508984322437415134/1510177774026100776

design fix

again

solid deep ....

some changes photos

i cant send files for some reason

idk

ima put them in a googel drive and send you the link to it

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12A4ZbiLE8TTSDZ73NSNC_FfhNDGmYCDn?usp=drive_link

i hope that works

Accept

done

ok mroe late i see

The Edge is fixed but the second part u do wrong xd

what you mean?

i usually go down i just wanted to land and write smth

i dont remember really

U need dj

Is the point of all this

no you dont

where do you need it there

?

wait

i want send clip

oh you can just go down get dj run off above the kt

and get the dummy

so no dj needed

thats how i did it

:v

like ts

antipseedrun metod

uh its safer though

on a faily map like this id rather have 5 sec more

then 1 less run of 5 that gets past that

changed part (i think is stupid the no dj metod but i change part too)

i put bad a switch xd

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whys group 1 named welf

XD

why no

:/

design bug

teamrank gained

You just unlocked team how you gonna get back up

Your dummy never hit finish

oh yeah

mb

i think i moved badly the speeder

ok next version im gonna fix

is 3 blocks up XD

Fixed https://canary.discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1508984322437415134/1511573817904992387 https://canary.discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1508984322437415134/1511574660788256819 was a problem when i expand spawn xd

i moved it badly

Hi

hi

i discover i send wrong version and xd

w map

Tasser

Missing corner

It looks a bit strange having corner in one place but don't have it in other

Probably missing corners here

Like on others

Here also

Missing corner

The switch's no

And deep probably no

But the 3 freeze 3

1 is fixed in my ver but I didn't up zd

Deep yes xd

corners fixed

2) In my opinion the last part is way to tight. Maybe you could add 1 tile of space. Also those 3 kill tiles are pretty unfair and easy to hit 3) If you keep hooking your dummy while jumping into finish you can unfreeze yourself outside of map (If 2 ppl finish at the same time you can fly back up and do some pretty gamebreaking stuff like turning off all switches before starting the map and even finish without touching deep) 4) Tiny skip. You can throw your dummy into the switch and hook him back before doing the part xd

And hi 🫣 i saw you!

Hi thanks for test my map in gonna read all in 3 hours im working rn and where is the 1)

Just an entitie bug^^ didnt feel like writing a paragraph for it

Yeah the point 3 we see I just decided don't change bc I found so unnecessary u can't do so much things really bc if u off deep u need touch deep again to continue map xd

But I'm gonna change prob

you can turn off all switches aswell beforehand. just the beginning is some hard aled but rest is easily doable without touching deep

Are a teamrank way but is really impossible xdd

or even teamfinish ye

I think I'm gonna add deep I finish

To just fall

And die

ye probably the cleanest solution

https://canary.discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1508984322437415134/1512839201383780544 expanded in one block the 2) add deep to prevent leave map fix design

the tiny skip i dont found necesary to fix is not so hard the part

i forgot send all photos xd

www map bro

linux things. dont drag, select in file explorer

xd

tasser

WWＭＡＰ

nah bro u ruin the joke is good when waterfall say w map not u

🆙👌

👋 Smol test.

1. I think moving the kill tile one to the left would make it more comfortable.
2. That freeze laser seems a bit unnecessary?
3. I think you can throw over the switch and get stuck which would be annoying. Also I think the max range hook to the switch is bad, it completely ruins the flow while having almost the same move just one part earlier.
4. The timing on this door is a bit tight - I think moving it to the horizontal would be better.
5. This part would probably flow much better if you align the wall with the drop below. Could have a one tiler with kill on the left and right.
6. The spacing here is a bit too tight to be comfortable for a good throw. I think it would play much better if you lower the platform by a few tiles.

Some of my interpretations on two parts that I think flow/work better.

gm i need go english lessons and i fix al my pana

If you don't understand something feel free to ask. ^^

The first u do correctly and the second one is cool odea

The 2 is a "skip" (stupid and unnecessary https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1508984322437415134/1510339408258400357 bc is imp

And 5 is with the other wall

:v

i do some changes less the 2 and 4 :v

aa

the 4 mb i do

but i dont save XD

i move the door

ww map bro

gm

u can do some with this guy? is putting w map all time

remove see channel perms or idk

🥺

It's not like it's something very rude or anything

But

, he's clearly annoyed by it, so please stop.

=(((

Yo! the map is intended to be hard 4 stars i get it, but dont you think is too harsh not to let the player have a jump refill in any way?

i tested this part a few times and..:

1. move this one 1 tile sup or delete the freeze and make the switches shorter, now is rather annoying
2. Move this switches to the freeze, i believe the movement you have to do is quite clunky
3. add one more unfreeze on a or b

pls put other stopper, depeding on the grip you get your dummy killed

this part feels so bad and clunky compare with some part of the map

well.. felt, i thought i had to press the switch 8 for 10 minutes to try the part then i realized that is not necessary which makes the part 100% better and those stoppers shouldnt be there if thats the case

overall the map is decent for a release i guess, if there are some proper fixes should be ready. I would say 4 stars maybe, since most of the maps latley are 3.5 or some sort

unnecessary stopper, since you have to deactivate the 12 first to use the part below

Intended u need hook late if u mis first hook

The up switch?

I disagree on how the part is done, is too punishing, the map is already hard enough to die on such a minor mistake

I still don’t see how is that a problem 🤔

Gm probably more late I'm gonna fix

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1508984322437415134/1510339408258400357 :v

gm! i preffer c 💀

)im fixing(

https://canary.discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1508984322437415134/1519551106148073552 https://canary.discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1508984322437415134/1519544515357184172 only changed this

-i forgot up the version with credits in tiles and removed one unnecesary switch

probably the worst part of the map. throwing dummy in and rehooking does not work consistently because of not having much downspeed. So u miss off-switch and launch into freezelaser. but since u can just not rehook and just jump from the platform with toetaps its kinda weird to have the dj-refill just be there. it kinda feels messy because both ways are possible but they both dont work well. Also the part isnt really interesting since even if the switches were not there, u would play the part basically the same way.

Flow is interrupted by the smallest space (middle of sceenshot) ever to throw, land and jump onto killedge. Its way too tight. Especially in a map where the main mechanic is to turn off switches, its very weird to have these very tight and very faily spaces. The enjoyment of the map should come from the mechanic and not from the failyness. The difficulty of the map interferes with the flow of the map mechanic.

the idea is ok and better than first part but still should be more spacious imo. this kinda applies here as well: part isnt really interesting since even if the switches were not there, u would play the part basically the same way with little difference.

this is also just a regular bottom to top drag. the switches barely change any gameplay. u would swing around basically the same way, just that you quickly need to touch that one switch.

probably the best part of the map but it still suffers from some errors. this time the switches actually make sense and massively alter the gameplay of the part. the problem is however that especially the top part lacks space for better flow. bottom part: the swing from right to left should be more spacious as well. sadly within the gameplay of the bottom part the switches do not change much of the gameplay.

switches do change the gameplay here slightly but in the end its just a quick drag and u would travel the same way anyway. (last 2 switches are alright but could be more spacious)

this part is extremely messy. what does switch 8 do? theres so many ways to do the part its soooo tight. and u can throw from bottom right to skip i guess?

So what it sums up to for me what the problems are:

• Many parts are too messy and tight with multiple ways where u dont know what even the real way is - Many parts would play almost exactly the same even if the switch/freezelaser mechanic wasnt there.
• The difficulty/tightness of the map interferes with the flow of the map mechanic.

The idea/mechanic with the switches and freezelasers is a great idea and in a few places u did implement it well and did something interesting. However i feel like you could do so so much more if u would focus on creating a map where the mechanic is the most important thing to fulfill and difficulty/structure/tightness/precise movements comes way after that. The mechanic allows for some of the most interesting parts created. Often u just used it in a way where it barely changes much of the gameplay. In my personal opinion, this map sadly does not meet the expectations currently. I'd recommend you to make a new map (maybe copy a few parts from this map and change them), since i think it would be much better. The potential the mechanic offers is way higher and i hope u can execute it in a proper way.

Okay thanks for feedback and test

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