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Comments:

• Start too small
• Maybe don't give jetpack upon entering map, that's gonna be so annoying people spamming it afk at spawn
• Noob filter isn't solo
• This map will not work in team 0 with big teams of novice players.
• No solo parts at all and teleports don't have unfreeze I'd rate this as a 1 star DDMaX map. or a 4/5 star (old style) Novice

The map is decent but I don't think it fits for what DDNet wants nowadays. Especially the basic design, looks like all the new maps have loads of art and doodads.

I do like the idea of having a map based on purely one special ability, and like that you've made a sort of modern old style map. I'm curious to see what others have to say, in this modern age of mapping.

1.Start i could change and make it bigger

2. a Jetpack map is meant to have jetpack and i dont care about people beeing afk

3. there is no noobfilter

4. map will work

ama is mapping again

5. 1 teleporter didnt have unfreeze and solo parts have multiple ways to help people

I don't want be negative or give harsh crits, just thinking about what its like now we have so many new players. So bigger start and maybe some sort of solo part noob filter could be a big help to your map

6. people play multimap with a cancer design and not the super cool maps with ultre high detail designs

i just give my opinion to your critics

a bigger starter room will be possible to make without a problem

$decline

never compare your maps to multishitmap

i will compare my maps to the most popular map on ddnet

skeep

cool skip 😄

best skip

i like skips like that they dont give a huge advantage so i dont care about them 😄

quick decline it

look my logo got stolen

start is buggy, you might skip the jetpack on (when multiple tees spawn together)

will be fixed

once i get more opinions on the map

and more bugs

Design is questionable

time travel design

Most popular maps on ddnet kobra and multimap have simple designs

Old maps

2012 design vibes, i actually loved that. i dont like change

You mention the shit design first

Old maps getting Played now

yeh because ddnet wants new design senpa

in my opinion those parts felt way too boring and just like space filling

https://ddnet.tw/maps/LearnToPlay

released this year has a simple design

wait wat, that was released less than year ago?

Nobody moved

im gay

this part feels boring, too

for you because you think its too easy 😄

noobs will probably hook 10 times to make it

Thor map its trash

it looks strange xD

why have to do same move three times here?

noobs will learn to hook correctly

this map dint felt novice at all

design feels like kobra but red

i had a similiar design in banta

but with moving tiles on top of the red

banta looks better than this overall, in my opinion 😄

😄

banta is a 3 star novice map with harder parts 😄

banta... that map was a nightmare when I was a novice player

its a well knows issue of rating system back then

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Ddmax map but okay

i made this map easier but people say its 1-2 star mod

the map by itself felt repetitive for me, but with some cool parts

why?

so you cant hook him right

so easy and he has to use jetpack

it looks like you can just do it anyway in the screenshot

you can but you have to time your jump

which worse players cant do

please tell us what you think about this map

xd

yea

wat

i would actually like people to play this map with a partner and not a dummy

ama i will join u

because with dummy you have to pause so often to setup

i played it with you xD

useless shit i mean everyone 😄 not just you

Blade i have to leave soon and im eating now

HQ map, rls quick

just to hate after release 😄

don't know map but it's from you so it's hq

you are such a troll

Changes spawn fixed 1 tele not having unfreeze

Are the lines on purpose ?

Much better with a spawn area though 👍

seems like i fucked up 😄

will fix it now 😄

fixed fucked up spawn

testing it with a guy i took from novice

can be confusing for novice players i think

can make no collision here ?

Overall it's a nice map. Very noisy though xD It's old school style though, maybe the ddnet staff would want it to look slightly more modern, but the parts are good and creative. Quite difficult for Novice players, definitely a 5 star map

what does JP stand for?

jebac policje

jao Ehrenmann

It's a jetpack only map so JP means Jake Paul

wtf

I didn't see the map at all so I will just ignore the stupid part of your sentence

still can't answer normal questions

JP Jao's Penis

https://tenor.com/view/hammergeil-thumbs-up-okay-good-approve-gif-16922529

why is my joke stupid?

i answered you and i added a joke

because I didn't find it funny

stop offtopic

stop offtopic or i will ask admins to ban you from testing section, last warning

Will change some things lady saavik mentioned

fixed spawn and fixed 1 cheat

put logo non hd

Any opinions on the rating of this map ?

i feel like this map is quite hard for novice, so i rather would rate it mod 1

would say 5* novice or go along with mod 1 since the map has some longer parts

These 2 ^

This is a mistake right?

ooh i see 😄 thanks wrong tiles 😄

will fix tommorow

fixed edges on the screen before

fixed 2 cheats i didnt like

and added some signs where people struggled to find the right way

Ama making a non ddmax map when

test my map and give some insight on your thoughts

I did not mean for the message to be offensive I said it as a joke

i dont care about that at all

just test map or dont write in this channel

don't you ever write something offtopic in ama's testing channel again

or welf swings banhammer

talking about offtopic is offtopic

Talking about offtopic is offtopic also is offtopic

clean this up

u dont need cp 1, cptele ports tees to spawnpoints if they don't hold a checkpoint

doubt u need so many squares of jetpack

u can just have a line of jp before start

also whys there 2 logos its only 1 map

• need unfreeze in spawns/cp 1

Tp1 is closer to start

So I wont change that

You have jetpack when you enter the map and not when you start the race

I put as many logos as I want

Unfreeze isnt needed because I keep tele 1

just make an actual spawnroom rather than dm1 then

should put 2 teles

also is top way needed? it's not faster

Its not needed but its there

i dont see a reason to keep the top way but w/e it doesnt matter much

what is wrong on that screenshot

idk unfreeze in tele looks odd

Added Speedrun CPS and some unfreeze and signs

Thanks will change that now also i made the logo less white as it hurt my eyes XD

Changed the freezes

added some decoration in the start room

Thanks for the test

Added deen and brokecdx

added 4 more tees

U can make spawnpoint outside of spawn with instant tp and jetpack, with that ur spawn gonna look a lot of cleaner

Maps are made to be played with design im not gonna clean up entities

i agree with monster girl, because many players use entities, they should look clean, but still your choice

Can you give me some example how to do it correctly so i dont need to think XD

added more people

u do it like in grandma map

spawnpoint with speeders right outside spawnroom

that tele tees to tele 1

and in the speeder room theres jetpack tile as well

also these tees are gonna confuse noobs and they're going to accuse them of flyhacking but it's whatev

this is what monster girl meant

i guess jetpack can go on the teleporters, but i wanted to make it visible on the screenshot to explain the idea

cp on spawn and jp on c_tele to make it more compact

i think then he has to put jetpack around the to tele again

and nothing changes

because if 2 tees enter a to tele at the same time, one might bounce out?

no i meant jp on the tele thing

checkpoint tele

sorry :x

doesn't matter if you use cp tele or normal tele

will do it now

cleaned up spawn

removed flyhackers

also these tees are gonna confuse noobs and they're going to accuse them of flyhacking but it's whatev

i think they will know that they arent real player when they see that they cant colide with them

ya i was half joking lol

just disable bullets with server settings, put jetpack around spawns and remove whatever this contraption is

the thing is i got already told off for using jetpack on spawns

because you can glitch out

there's absolutely nothing wrong with doing this lol

who cares if it's solo or jetpack or hammer-off or whatever

i cleaned it up fuck it

not gonna change it again XD

but you're making it more complicated than it needs to be this way xd

it's not possible to edge on stoppers and not touch tele

but you can manage to do this

Ok will ad speeders in stoppers

Wait

Are you not adding tees now? I just got to my laptop now to send you my colours xddd

I wanted to be one of the fly hackers

i was joking im still adding hackers

player_color_body 9870107 player_color_feet 2155813 player_skin "mermydon"

Can you give me happy eyes plz? :d

k

fixxed stoppers and added more people

more people 😄

reworked stopper part added switch open 1

added lots of unfreeze

Yeah that's the main thing the map needed, should be dope now after all these edits ! I'll give it a play when I get home

reworked 1 part

u can just skip this whole thing

also the spawnroom looks quite messy in entities and it lags u when ur walking around if u have a higher ping

it lags because antiping tries to predict bullets

I've played the map a few times with different people. It has a good flow, I like how the map is seamless without TP to next part. The only concern I have for the map is the oldschool design compare to the majority of new map releases. Cool map. 3 or 4 star Novice

little skip for speedrunners, doesn't seem to big of a design flaw.

its not just that part imo

like theres a skip here

and ik "noobs wont be able to do it" but imo this one is a little ridiculous

and a lot of the times the "pro way" is somewhat slower which is meh

idk why spawnroom is dm1 either

add noby to spawnroom

if u make a normal spawnroom there will be enough space for one logo + u can position the flying jetpack tees where they wont lag everyone

u need to put unfreeze on platforms like this where u reach it after hitting a freeze

else u have to pray to RNGesus when u speedrun that u hit the little tele 29 box with the unfreeze inside it for -3 secs

Yeah tele 29 should have Unfreeze

I will change it later

There is so many skips in this map

And I have them there for a reason

What about the difficulty? Novice 5?

Ok

What about the difficulty? Novice 5? i would say 4*

I have a question

How long does finishing take?

I saw only map

would say under 15 minutes on your 1 playthru

and then down to 5 mins i guess or even lower for speedrunners

Hm, so I think 4*'ll be better

It isn't very long

5 star map often has more than 15 mins of gameplay

Absurd 5, Planet Venus - these maps took me at the beggining more than 20 mins and they are 5*

some 5* maps will be rerated to moderate

ok

but there is one important thing

Why there isn't me on start on JP???

because you didn't tell ama to add you

now it's too late

but wait... not

4*

2 'beginner' need for this map 2-3h

and its harder then 5* novice

if its harder then 5 star novice make it 1 star moderate

i dont really care about the rating of the map i tried to make it easy

but you need some game knowledge to play this correctly i guess

i would take 5 star novice or 1 star mod

uff

u rly think so? im pretty sure its not even 5* novice^^ the map is pretty easy (even for beginners), i dont think that they need 2-3h to finish

i needed 12min 😄

with dummy ?

no

no first try.. just chilled

yeah so 2-3h is realistic 😄

1 star mod is probably right as a brain is needed

or maybe 1-2h idk xd

fix the spawn before ready

yeah i am unhappy about the spawn, too

what do you want me to do ?

remove the bullets xD or replace them with animations or idk xD

the antiping prediction thing is annoying and there are too many tees

Dont stand there

nobody is forcing you to stand in the spawnroom

Novice players who can do 4 star maps will be able to do this map, ofc for a 1star novice player that map would be brutal lol. its all relative

I think moderate is too much

wtf s that

super weird

2 beginners played the map (they finished some novice maps, so they are not real beginners), even with an explanation, they rq'ed after 30 minutes, because they didn't enjoy the map (they tested other novice maps before and didn't rq that much

the spawn is annoying because you can stuck in the ground and most importantly because your antiping prediction does weird stuff. also non freezing bullets can be confusing for beginners.

there was a suggestion to put some tees in the map instead of spamming them in the spawn room

no just dont have dm 1 and u can structure it where u never have to go under the bulletss

like smth like this theres probably a better way to do it tho

big artist louis

nouis drawing JP's spawn

Put it on mod 1 then as beginners dont have a brain and dont know how to use jetpack

i will rework the spawn

And the antiping thing you talking about

Deen always wanted to please normal vanilla users the most that is why we dont have moving entities

as it was not supported by vanilla client

im changing it now

i will put them in cages or outside of the map

spawn change

i will make a sign tommorow to use your gun to fly

deleted switches

i will make a background change tommorow

as i find it annoying to play with the current one

yes

you are supposed to stop writing messages without information

rls

Is this map novice? I would prefer to put it on moderate.

All the ones who pressed F4, give any reasons why you think it's novice and not moderate

moderate = more points

parts are easy af for moderate server

too easy for moderate?

si

I think its moderate because of The jetpack mechanic

The parts are Easy it you know how jetpack works correctly

But novice players probably dont

For me after some changes it could go novice. I guess they can learn that mechanic since there inst any full jetpack map so it wouldnt be too complicated for them after they get it how it works? Novice 5* for me

DDRACEMAX Because this is a ddmax map that is trying to be a ddnet map

otherwise novice 5* because it's not that faily but you need to know how to use a jetpack and brain

You'd be very bold to post this as a 1 star moderate. However given the way noobs play, this can be 1 brutal. Good luck with your new ratings testers

Yeah we plan to change the ratings so i prefer moderate.

moderate 0*

Maybe ready ?

I took another look on the map.

i guess you can't fix this, but with a high ping and antiping it looks like this xD

Genex is a magician and flies without shooting, which is kinda weird

Adding unhookables above, will take his powers away. There's some spooky stuff going on (i am assuming, the bullets are bouncing on the unhookables below, when he server starts and flying out of to 12 upwards).

if you move like this, the to teleporter will be a weird one imo (i guess cp 7 tiles here would be okay)

i suggest to add some cp tiles in case somebody tries to skip through freeze (i mean getting unfrozen with hammer or idk maybe going in from above and getting hooked until unfrozen)

put this HD

this quad should be HD Edit: unused layer?

this quad should be moved slightly upwards i guess

ofc im magician tztz

Will fix everything tommorow thx

"Fire your gun downwards to fly" would be better. The way you wrote it, it could mean, that you have a thing that shoots your gun downwards instead of shooting downwards with your gun. Also it doesn't say that you are supposed to shoot down more than once. But it's fine like this xD you don't need to change

use

use ur gun

better

Use your gun to fly sounds good to me.

I will say though that I did find this map to be novice myself even though it has lots of jetpack. I would've guessed novice 4 star but 5 star could work too. There are similar parts in the map Banta which is a 3 star novice.

f3, this is novice map

its novice 5 imo

F3 for novice

I as a dictator wont accept this vote

If you argue for novice, keep in mind that we want to rerate some maps and that our novice testers rq'ed, because it was frustrating for them.

If someone is on high ping and playing with antiping i dont think he will look at the design of the map

he probably is playing in entities as he is already using a advanced feature

Just tell me the exact words you want the shoot to fly thing to be

Just write pew pew pew. Jk just do what soapy says (he is a native speaker)

stop comparing novice maps xD

But do they know that they have to hold down the mouse button to fly, or will they try to shoot ever bullet

I mean its a moderate map

i could write its a jetpack map !!

Write me the exact words and i will add them

Use your gun to fly

well if its a moderate map, im suure a "moderate player" would already know what a jetpack is so no need for that text in the first place

If you argue for novice, keep in mind that we want to rerate some maps and that our novice testers rq'ed, because it was frustrating for them.

novice testers?

Thats me xd

no its not you

😄

ppl are not that stupid to not try to hold or look at other players

There can't be like 10 people playing and staying don't know what to do

To fly

Thats why I want A exact text

Put a youtube video link there and let them copy that

I will just Record A audiofile

And ad it in

bruh what u dont even need the text players arent braindead

i can only take your audiofile serious, if it has "kurwa" in it

if its a moderate map its not going to be on novice servers

"Use your gun to fly"

or keep it how you have it

novice players might still show up to a moderate map

Is ama from poland?

ye they might join stronghold 3 too but we dont teach them how to hh at the beginning lol

tak kurwa

moderate 0*

pls

that moouin

well at least theres not a good design for it to ruin

also why is there a dvd screensaver logo

Im not gonna change the logo as its a moderate map if i should change anything else please tell me

you didn't put everything mentioned HD

3 big transparent areas are too many

Why is that

it fucks slow computers

some are using their toasters

Its just The color of background

everthing not gameplay relevant should be HD

If someone is using A toaster he probably uses own quads or entities

but it computes every frame

maybe not

So why is logo not hd

Its not gameplay relevant is it

everything besides logo and a thing behind to prevent visual bugs

obviously

Ok i will change it in a minutę not on my pc right now

please just use a gradient in the bg, those sun quads are killing fps

that doenst work as well

or i dont know how to make it look good with normal quads

well I don't know how you can make fps so crap on a design like this, it must be the suns

tried with less suns

this should look close enough to what you had but with minimal quads

no stars at bottom of map btw

theres like 500 unused envelopes also

removed unused envelopes

and added stars in bottom part of the map

thx

otherwise it looks ready

Logo it's fine imo xd

For me logo here is fine too

like i said, its just exaggerated - u cant even see the whole logo with -3 zoom if its just there that the room looks not that empty he can make it smaller

Well, ama has different mapping style and he is well known for making big end rooms, the logo it's just to fill it up, there is nothing bad with it

logo its fine wtf

if he wants a big silly logo it's fine xD

ok

I got told by welf to add cps there when someone gets unfreezed there

and the logo is not really a problem i guess but i can change it if you want to

I agree that you should try have your logo fully visible in default zoom but if you prefer it this way then you dont have to change.

changed the room a bit

and logo is smaller

I got told by welf to add cps there when someone gets unfreezed there

i dont see why there should be cp^^

There is more unhookables as the bullets sometimes just fly away

2nd screen fixed

Again im a magician

xd

Uhm

I am still feeling insulted by that lie "Welf wants to release my map, so I can't add u. Maybe later"

welf in no longer a part of testing

he still can test as a normal player tho

$ready 1

welf in no longer a part of testing Yeah, but lie is lie, no matter what Welf'll do

I don't care, but what was the point?

wat 1

its moderate 0

"shoot your gun down to fly" it's good to let moderate players know how to use a jetpack

just stfu

Hold the left mouse button while aiming downwards using your gun to lift up in the air

Should be simple enough

the original its perfect lol