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Map 🐞: Debug output is too long, see attached file.

alr so qxdfox is to lazy to continue so he asked me to finnish it that I gladly wanted. The last channel where removed so everything that was written on it disappeared. I did something and changed some parts and so on

• just fixed the cps

https://ddnet.org/testlogs/show/Cansada_old https://ddnet.org/testlogs/show/Cansada

i have. doesnt show all images. just 1 sadly

It's for me and testers :)

i remember this map being almost ready apart from a few design and spacing choices

mb xDD

yeah qxdfox is a lazy mf

^^

!remindme 12h to check this map

this was the time I had blob skin and not turtle

LOONG time ago

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alright here we go:

1. personal opinion: Why are we adding a block area?
2. this was mentioned before - arrows where the path is obvious are just weird.
3. ARROOOOOWS
4. the left section is unneccessary, using it makes little to no sense
5. that handholding is missplaced
6. maybe a different contrast instead of PURE ABYSS would fit better here
7. so much open space for a flypart, i'm not a big fan of it in general but it could be narrowed down so its more fun, maybe ramp up difficulty and go down with the size?
8. i remember that the idea was that you can go back but.. why? - it feels a little messy with CP + regular tele mixed.
9. ......
10. .....

minor things, most are design choices, i like the map and the parts are decent as well, tho they lack polishing and feel a little rough

instead of block areas we should start including teesmash areas

11. maybe just 3 exclamation marks instead of an english text
12. arrooooooooooows
13. i dont like that hook, it feels weird - or maybe i'm doing it wrong xd
14. i dont like that section, it doesnt flow right since you have to use dj to go through, have to jump and rehook to get your mate, this doesnt flow good IMO. i would either: extend the dragger section, or: remove the tp wall

additional screenshot: FINALLY A GOOD ARROW!!!

deconstructed kitty

maybe just keep them solely in design without entities

i do like if it was done with freeze

in game tiles

is it the same map with more problems ? or just not fix?

the map went into the archive because the mapper was inactive, it was not declined

yes ok, i also remember why it was not decline, welf i told u exatcly what would happend

I dont like the block area to. It was qxdfox who added it

Bro was very angry while taking the pictures🙏 i will get to work.

Maybe

i don't think the map is good ngl

had 0 fun

• 1. block removed. just go linear block

• 2. removed the arrow.
• 3. removed the entitys and made the arrows better.
• 4. I agree that it is unneccessary but I think it will destroy the design a bit and make the space feel narrow so I added chair

• 5. I dont understand what you mean by misplaced. :(
• 6. changed the design on it and made the tele color a little bit brighter.
• 7. made the part harder and a little bit longer
• 8. changed the part to cp for a better design
• 9. fixed. its not my fault😭
• 10. 😭
• 11. idk if I should remove the english text. but I added 2 more exclamation marks.
• 12. :(
• 13. added 2 hookthroughs that should make the part easier
• 14. made the part flow more

tweaks

• 15. changed the secret to my newest skin

block removed

fixed cps

changelog .

that was fast!

!remindme 20h check again

ofc :D

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Delay level max

bugfixes and tweaks to make the flow better

40h reminder

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melon punctual af

dont even know how many hours it is now :)

reminder

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The unmarked tele teleports you back to the start

Personally, I don't like these arrows because we can't just give tees the right solution everytime, but that's just how I view it

This is also the only part where there's no unfreeze at the end

The map seems fine gameplay wise though

Will fix it when i get home

Wdym here tho? When you land you land in unfreeze?

After the other did the part (prfi) Nova' is waiting to unfreeze to be able to proceed with the part It's not a major issue, it's just that all the other parts do have a unfreeze (examples in pictures)

Okay i understand. Just a miss from me. I will fix it👍

everything nova' mentioned is fixed

Nice map, enjoyed playing it and cozy design. Found some stuff:

1. Hookable blocks outside of the map without any use?
2. Wrongly marked Unfreeze
3. Couple of Design bugs
4. Couple of Entitie bugs. Also if both tees fall down into tele 8 on accident you are pretty much gg and have to restart the run. There are a couple of spots on this map like on tele 21 and 31
5. Solo tiles are not needed there and can be removed to be a bit cleaner
6. Cp tiles on this map are marked a bit inconsistent. Here is not even a Cp and Cp8 for example is not marked. Also Unsolo after this part is not marked
7. Accidentally overwrote unfreeze with Time Cp

Okay thanks will get to work as fast as i can

Smash 🫦

no u! 🫣

meow

fail on solo reaccion

this back dont have turn off entities

^

cant find where to fix the 3 one

• should have fixed everything

I dont understand the 3 one with the background

• small fixes

I know i posted quite a lot of stuff :x, but seems like you caused a lot of new bugs again while trying to fix the old ones:

1. If you hide the #4 Background layer you can see what i meant with 3, in #5 Extra are the Fill tiles to fix the error
2. Only moved design and not actual entities
3. I just meant the Speeder inside the Tele. I would place atleast 1 speeder right there to avoid a potential fail
4. Remove the Cp design to avoid confusion (There is no Cp), The potential softlock itself i mentioned seems solved, good job
5. Entitie bugs you fixed incorrectly
6. Maybe Place Stoppers here to avoid a potential fail when both tees fall inside

Everything else is properly fixed, but next time please double check yourself if you properly fixed everything

^ thanks for the test

he is a livin W

some stuff you mentioned was fixed when I got back home. will fix everything else when I have some spare time👍

Wops then i tested a bit to early 😄 just got home and saw you made an update and took a quick look. Alright

its fine its my bad xDD. also made a playtest. made this on my schoolcomputer and I am not used to mac. so had a hard time mapping xD

will fix everything now

tbh should I make everything cp instead of mixing it?

if I make it clean. I can just delete where it stands cp textures

I suggested to not use any cps since I don't really see a need for it.

same(ish)

Some parts need cp. Just think its kinda weird mixing it

• deleted the freeze inside the teles
• fixed everything Tropo talked about
• fixed so every tele number and cp numbers is in order
• made some small changes to make the map flow better with the teles
• removed the design on the cps

you want me to change the parts so they dont need cps anymore?

I’d do that yes. Would only need to adjust 2-3 parts a little.

more like 10

can make a playtest when I get back home and see what I can do

I only saw a few that would required a change.

okay. without cps here if you fall in you die. with cps the part just resets and you start from the parts start

its parts like this I want to have cps on

but you want me to change it to teles?

In my opinion you can just rework the ending of parts like this to make it less likely to fall in.

Maybe replace the hole with hookthrough and a tele to the ground. Like the first part

I think this is the only one where you would really need it if you don't want to make a bigger rework.

Okay

Would prefer something like this.

Ooo yeah

Alr thanks for the tips♥️

Will work on it as fast as possible

Take your time. :)

• everythings use tele now except 1 place

will fix the problem when I get back home

think it fixed

forgot to change the cp teles to regular teles

worked

how can I fix 3 tho

ig make the part thicker

but it will look weird

ig this would solve the problem

• everything Tropo mentioned is fixed

oh cleaner fix then what i was thinking about

you been the best tester :D

ahh

my pleasure

Unfreeze in Totele 14. Now i hope last thing for real

-bug

🐛 ?

you could compress the filesize by alot

Does it really matter for some people? The size getting from 744 to 700?

blud what you doing up at 4:20 am

'A lot' sounds like it would be more but yes, if you calculate decreased file size onto 2000+ maps that does make a difference.

You?

Driving to the airport. Flying to greece

I hope you are not driving yourself. Have fun!

xD nah luckely, thanks man

What you doing up this early tho

Make sense

Checking testing channels obviously.

A real tester works 24/7

😍

I am flying home from Greece now. What am i supposed to do on the map now. Should i compress the filesize?

alr so

• compressed map down by 300kb
• fixed so the turtle doesnt look as funky as before

i think this arrows misleading, because i firstly think that both need to go first up and then right, better to just remove this, ppl not that stupid

what meaning of this signs

fill with frezee

I think you have to summon the Minecraft warden to carry you through the part.

oh, my bad

have more mistakes but i stoped

btw you can make this arts in entitles also, see examples in Adorenarine

New corner chaser?

papota's son

logo shouldnt be HD those purple dots should be HD

whats the purpose of all these little images you got floating around? and all of them (not just the ones here) are cut off

1 spawn tile is enough

• i dont think this noobfilter is needed. its extremely easy and therefore it doesnt filter out any noobs
• most parts on this map are 2p anyway so another reason to delete the noobfilter
• the noobfilter in itself isnt fun either

HD

i dont think that the starting filler with hh fits the style of the map. maybe something more "platformy" like the stuff on the right suits it better since u also have the laser from the beginning

if theres multiple people at this part, people will fall down cause of the tele being too near to the edge

you can just jump over this obstacle

i dislike running starts on 2p maps. especially if the map's not exclusive to 2p. people will run over each other all the time blocking the entire time. should move the tele down there and make the orange bit hookthrough

should block off the tele more. dont want to make newer players accidentally jump back in all time doing the part

hookblockers must be avoided at all costs. they are probably the most cheapest way to make an excuse for bad mapping. theres many ways u can force players splitting up without using special tiles

• this drag is way harder than all other parts
• the deepfrozen player has to do nothing (--> no equal distribution of playtime)

unfortunately these parts do not really flow well cause of their small space

same thing here

and here

this part could heavily be improved upon by actually making use of the swing. Right now u barely need to use any speed to cross the second and third freeze. this makes the part not flow as good cause the player doesnt need to keep their speed which is unsatisfying to play

with multiple people here the part will be impossible to play

not clear enough which wall to go

no freeze in stopper

repeating moves arent fun

again use of hookblockers. in this case u can walk off edge and be able to hook through the hookblockers

most 2p parts arent that special i suppose, but they do flow well enough

can skip the left part

Ayy i will get to work when i have some free time. Nice testing🔥

Imo i think this map should be 2 to 4p team locked

It flows much better then

Is it okay to change

i dont think team locking is necessary on this map. Team locking is only needed when more than 2 players would be able to cheat entire parts or destroy the functionality of parts. So no, better no team force. Flow of the map doesnt depend on forcing a team.

Okay :D

yeah was a bug someone I replaced the text file with the icon one

so if you talk about blockers here

ig they could block there

so I remade the part to this

is it to lazy?

maybe just delete that to

and bridge it so it looks like this

Talking about the game tile.

wdym?

he wants me to just delete the hookblocker thing?

Yes, find another way to split the players up before. :)

Maybe don't bring them together for that one part in the first place.

yeah it was

.

what I asked if I should just delete the part

Maybe better, yes.

alr everything mentioned if fixed. It just some areas I would want some help brainstorming

so no hh fits the map so I added some platforms idk if I need to change it

I deleted the whole part and it created a empty space. I could move everything < but every layer would be a pain to move.

• some design bugs
• added entity arrows

alr this is done now

got some help from qxdfox and he helped me move stuff around for a bit :D

now the only question is

what can I do here

😭

qxfoxs changes. he moved around everything and deleted some parts :D

imo the map looks very polished now

and ready for release what do you guys think?

first part is too tricky

Vergessliger cant do it

first drag part to be specific

this thick tele was screwing me over

hammer doesnt always do the same thing

i think the skip that that one guy pointed out was fine tbh

also

, why was this changed? Did anyone say anything? I wasn't really active here

na it was me that thought the 1 tile over was a bad design

true made that cus of this

I thought the skip was cool and fine tbh

.

skippeble

its a one second time save

hmm

if even

join map?

im on my testing servers

with vergessliger

-just some small tweaks

took a quick look 🙂

• 1. Missing Shadow and a missing "swirly" thing on the edge.
• 3. How did this even happen?^^ wasnt there before.

Maybe its just me but the spawn looks kinda barren now. Rest of the map looks clean.

we moved everything and it took time xD

maybe was some errors

ah

Will fix it as fast as i can

alr so I have fixed the small bugs tropo mentioned

I have also fixed 3 parts to make them more balansed and made them so they didnt feel so tight and close together to get a better flow

small changes to the hooks to make it a bit harder and funnier to do

• this version you need to use the swing more and save dj for the end. pick the version you guys like the most :D

this still in testing

as is everything

if its not in evaluated maps its testing

but declined maps can also still be tested

if mapper uploads more changes

well I am waiting for a tester to test :D

well thats unfortunate that noone is testing

or did i just read it wrong :)

well we'll see when they have time. they doing this on there freetime anyways

whatevers best for u, im out to showroom to check some clips

Ah must have missed it thanks

I liked the map, it's so pleasantly light. But it seems to me that there are very few parts with a laser, although I always have one.

Yeah its been some discussions about it and it would be weird to take it away and regetting it again

map used to be with almost no teleporters at the start

so laser was more useful

went back on the old design on this

and fixed this

(ignore this)

the thingy is more broken ;-;

and why the cat art with blocks are deleted ;-;

You want it more centerd? I deleted the blocks for the cats cus what melon said

i rmb it would feel off when it was centred to .50 while you would align to .47

making it centred when standing at .47 or increase the "speed" of that thing so it wouldn't stuck there

Those blocks wouldn't harm right?

Yeah just lazy to place them out again

use 2-second freeze and put unfreeze on last one?

this thing would cause congestion in T0. The 3 block freeze is ok, you can still throw to the platform, but the 4 block one is unavoidable ig?

Add unfreeze if you decided to let the throw be the speedrun way

Can you explain what you ment here

sth like this

Hmm maybe or throw and use the lazer

I want to use the laser as much as possible cus you have it on the whole map

Does testers like that. 2 second freeze?

not sure about that

ah i forgot that

Will add unfreeze tho on the 4th image

put this totele on the ground is a solo part, which makes it uncomfortable when you respawn

same

• fixed what arrow said
• added unfreeze

you have laser

if you fail you fail comoon

das like som noob complaints if someone did complain

Im nub so it's gud

added it back. you the mapper who pplaced it there in the beginning

no bad

that was a year ago how should i even remember that

idk

just skillissue

having unfreeze there is skill issue

massive

meh whatever

ok sir I add it back

• deleted the unfreeze again

lmfao

cheat if u edge here. also u can change those ht to unhook to avoid baity hookthru (u cant rly hook from top)

can u put front layer with more priority than tele? since u hav eso many stoppers in teles it would be more visible for entity players

these changes dont even work and are not spaced correctly ^ but the idea is u should force those moves a bit more strictly else the part feels too 'free flow' and awkward to route

ok cant test rest. but main idea is force ur parts moves better and with more intention.

Make your entities structure a bit prettier (this is a hard skill to master, just take a look at the newer Ravie maps to see how he makes his entity structure align with the theme + design of his maps. You already have a cool theme going on here (the 3x3 with holes in the middle) but maybe you can expand more and make the map really fit with this theme)

parts themselves are fine I think. with better filler and better spacing it can be a good solid map

Eyy thanks for doing a great playtest. I will go work on it

it had a noobfilter but another tester said it didnt fit the map

I will delete the solo then and put some extra spawners.

maybe something like a timer one drops after 3 sec the other one drops after 5 and then catch so you dont need to time. and aslo pretty cool

whats your thoughts

everything is fixed except ↑

• fixed everything louis mentioned

• fixed designbugs

fixed

and 1 thing how do I add the /spec command?

I would like to have it on this map

• played again and found some texture bugs

sv_pauseable 1

1. remade that filler a bit to make it look nicer
2. made it a bit longer just to fill in the empty area so the map feels tighter together instead of a walking simulator :)

also fixed some design bugs and some smaller stuff thats not worth to mention

• changed the filler a bit to match the others design wise

You mean i should either rework start or adding all fillers so they look like the start?

I like that idea. Lemme see what i can do when i get home

just rework the start, since the rest of your map doesnt use that style

i think you get what i'm trying to say, but ye just try to think harder about your entities style -- maps like Spoon by ravie, behemoth/cerberus are standout examples -- but they also have very 'unique' entity style in which you can tell immediately. this level of intricacy/uniqueness is not necessary by any means, but at the very least your entity style should be clean and consistent. Tinseltee combines a 'natural' grass hookable with a 'clean-cut' unhookable style consistently thru-out the whole map, for example. this makes it very pleasant and gives the map an identity as well

Make sense

a good entities style is IMO what separates a great map from simply a sequence of parts

(yap over)

Okay thanks for the feedback.

u can add a line of tele in the freeze to fix this

it might be faster if you flw me ingame

if you're able to

I dont quite understand what you mean "u can add a line of tele in the freeze to fix this"

I am sitting on the bus. Will be home in like 15 minutes. Is that okay?

ah i gtg soon then no worries

imagine kill is tele sry xd

Aah i get you know so you dont need to go down and hook him

rule of thumb btw: a player should be able to use a weapon for most of the parts while they have it equipped.

just feelsbad if both players lag or mess up into that freeze when the rest of the part is tele

i'd just refactor the swing part right after this move btw ^ i dont think it plays very well

or maybe u can have bottom guy wait near some hookthru so swinging tee can easily hook him

up to you

Oops since the laser u have for whole map, no need to follow this rule. it rly only applies when you're giving / taking away multiple weapons thru-out the map

half laser half not laser parts is fine

Ok i think map has potential and some of the parts are fun and solid for moderate.

but u need to work on honing the spacing of the moves in each part

sometimes there is unnecessary hookable, awkward timing etc.

Would putting the tee in a slow speedster be a good idea?

probably not

the issue is that move feels like two seperate parts instead of one fluid one

when you do an optimal playthrough of a part you make, nothing should feel 'awkward' or 'unnecessarily slow' if that makes sense

In that move, it's a bit weird to:

1. get the dummy into the stopper
2. jump to the cto17 platform (its not even max jump, so theres a lot of wasted time falling)
3. do the jump
4. jump back up and hook dummy

Hmm okay. I will figure something out

if u know what i mean

Think so

ok. maybe i can give/make more examples later but ye

Alr

this text

haha yeah

but if you zoom in its kinda easy to read

Hey. wdym that I can keep the same moves but allow the bottom to afk?

Not the exact samve move, but i'd just extend the hookthru a bit >

aah okay :D

or block there to wake up afk and really keep same move

bros glazing his own part 💀 https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1411451909457313914/1454006791297040496

my personal input is that you should edit all the fillers to match the one that you stylized at start, like you were saying

louis edit looked neat, reminds me of lobsterita, I liked yours too, and in reality anything works as long as its used consistently throughout map so as to be visually coherent

so just make sure to do it in the whole map when you have an idea for some aesthetic change to entities

Yeah thanks. It is what i am trying to do

best moderate 2026 incoming

When release

12 jan 2026

HUH~1

30 feb 2026

made something like this. I am not happy with the design but gameplaywise would it work?

you swing and drag and catch. then you land on platform

and did some changes to the over part.

i'd have to play it

I think if the swinging tee goes trough freeze the timing would be easier on the drop and then just fly

good point, then u could even have top guy laser him if u want a more complicated move etc.

You mean something like a freeze where the top guy Laser bottom and bottom hook him and drag him to the platform?

If that makes sense

btw you can go to the platform first and back to get the tee

good but ur end move isnt rly forced if u were intending it to be

wdym endmove

also id have to test the toetap, sometimes those can be finnicky

The last hook with speed

there?

jap

ig it doesnt really matter

the part gets a bit easier if you take speed but idk if it should be forced

you mean extend that ye?

anyways. I have played through the map a dozen times and made the parts flow better. changed somethings and moved stuff around. fixed some design to :D

🐞 bug🐛

• cammodude deleted the laser grrrr. its backnow

theres a laser ?

yeah haha

bugs

• fixed cats. fixed more bugs

• last bug for today.

gn

alr another playthrough

• fixed so signs is behind player
• some design bugs🐛

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1.5h of fixing invincible designbugs I found with 50% entitys bind

now it shouldnt be any more designbugs thats visible or Invincible

ops forgot to delete some images

upgraded logo animations💪

• tuned the annimation a little bit. ty cammodude :)
• fixed 2 parts to make the flow better.

ik you dislike a stopper being there but hte part flows sooooo much better

exxtra block to make the part flow better :D

some issues here

ment to be like that but can fix the background a bit

lol, idk why can't i see it with or without hd

haha

small changes :D

it still feels wrong, i respect the idea, but not being able to go through the air while entitites off is just weird

something like that feels a lot better, u gotta keep in mind there is people who plays with hd off and for them it's just gonna be a random hole on the map

if u move extra down it's gonna hide everything, but you have no spots where it's gonna interrupt the gameplay, I've done the same thing on "Not Novice"

it's gonna looks like that sometimes, if you're okay with that

alr :D

nice idea bdw :D looks 🔥

sry for pinging but what should I do now?

Is the map ready for release?

you moved extra up?

wasnt it above eveything before

Eeh wdym

the leaves

No it was his idea. I made the Leafs last in order so everything is behind them

eh

Join the map and see :D moved everything down so it looks good

i think it looks better above eveything

It wasnt above

Now it is

The image he did is the edit he did. Join the map and look how it looks

Sorry, I was a little busy today to test anything. Checked it now btw, I'm pretty sure it's ready for release, yes. I hope it will get some attention and more testers will also look at the map to share some opinions.

No need to be sorry!!

https://tenor.com/view/homer-sigma-homer-sigma-simpsons-simpsons-sigma-gif-10112370470593719920

Ok so, it's kinda long, complexed parts, some tricky solos. I'm thinking between 3 and 4 stars. You can't really die anywhere cuz you have a laser to save but you have a few quite "hard" parts with laser envolved. I'll put 3 stars and open to argue if someones think it's 4. Just compraring to latest 4 stars it's easier IMO.

Eyy!!!

damn

Ggs

Maybe some more animations coming up

perhaps, supposedly

Chance, Likelihood, Tentative Belief

can be replaced with tp

and then

the second image was there first but louis said I needed to make it easier :c

I can remake it to that cus I genually think that design looks better and isnt much harder. and nice idea on the first image with teles :D

fixing when I am home :D

you can do something like this(just find a way to remove the speeders)

this point is the most unbalanced on the map for moderate difficulty, it can be passed either with a toe tap or a hammerjump, which is not very good for moderate

you can get rid of the stopper

Toe tap is fun tho :(. Is it somehow i can have it in there?

maybe add an additional way of passing, Idk. I love toe tap too, but I just see that any moderate player will be shocked at this moment because they don't know how it works.

If we animate a tutorial?

We planning to add animations around map before release

shit fix or works?

alr every Ybiovawka said is done. needed to replace all teles to add the extra one to not mess up the numbers

forgot to delete 1 unhammer and I am that brainrotted so I uploaded wrong map

happens when you work on more than 1 map at the same time

animations at toetap place :D

TOE?

why so cursed u should fill that in

u can make normal b

this stopper makes no sense in mod 3, it's novice handicap

p nice drags map is fun overall

bdw how can they b if it one person?

its impossible to jump that far

fixed :D

4 tiles impossible jump ?XD

I am blind haha.

Was thinking the end of the freeze

Happy to see that the map has improved a lot since my last test. :)

1. I'd place the unfreeze vertically here since I find it more intuitive to drag the players all the way.
2. I also have my doubts about this toe tap, doesn't really fit in the map in my opinion. Remove the tele and extend the platform by one so players can use it as a normal platform? Toe tap would still work for those that want to use it.
   • Corner bugs.

There should be some hint in the design that you can leave the map from the finish room.

We had animations for toetap to🥀 .

Ig it will still work fine with a platform. Amazing testing ty!

Could use it in another map.

ez 20 min animation

no big deal

fixed :D

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Wen rilis

Idk. Still working on some small details

tested the map now. have nothing I want to add and it feels completed for me :D

. testers, what you think?

tele15

tele 15

The map is good, but the only part I didn't like was this one. I don't know, if they were going to remove the hammer, they could have made a more elaborate section. Instead of hooking the tee, you could have gone left, then jumped and hooked the tee again. But that's just my personal opinion.

I can go make something. It was a toetap part before but testers found it to hard

Nice catch with the teles. :D

changed the part cannabis talked about and the 1 bug. I personaly like the part now but idk what you guys think :D

why are the ones for the lower tee 7

just breaks the map

why does this tele just deck you if you have speed, so anti-flow to me

if you want to force it better visually, make the whole ceiling tele?

map is non-faily for a while, it might be better to put unfreeze on this platform because i was mindlessly jumping not realizing he wasnt unfrozen yet.

or maybe its my fault from not picking up on it being a faily section from the easy lasers xd

OR, better yet just make it so that you cant hit your head on freeze when you dj

so far this is my fav part. I would remove the corner tele, it doesnt really make the part harder it just makes it more annoying when it sometimes happens

kinda dont like the pointless walltele, also seems not much space for this drop height

again here walltele seems antiflow, also put unfreeze in the corner so it's clear you can drop them, even if on zoom

more wrong tp, should be 21

why is this ht... and this isnt?

former is basically pointless, other side seems annoying

fail

unfreeze down for easier B?

drop feels kinda boring/pointless?

nice touch on the flipped finish :D

overall nice map, just seems like some minor things that are antiflow, tele bugs, weird drop/not enough space sometimes/ht usages

my brain really wants there to be a cat on one of these 3 corners. especially the top left one xD

+++

you show the cats in entities but not this one, minor nitpick i guess

also it's probably not a big deal but all the fly parts are pretty boring. i dont think it would make it a "brutal" type fly to just more some more obstacles

Peak testing :D

can you clarify this?

good playtest by gorp :D fixed everything and made the flying a bit harder. also changed the entitys on the cats so its better now :D.

some design bugs and changed 1 part abit

design bugs and better flow :D

small skip :D

small skip :)

5 updates in a day 💀💀💀

playtesting with catseyenebulous

just put them at the end

instead of spam

we are testing :D

it was catseyenebulous who wanted me to publish

wouldnt it be possible on a private server

trashmap maybe aswell

and then after upload here

no difference and no spam

and can do a more accurate changelog

like we dont know waht you changed

you can also write that convo in 1 message instead of 6 diffrent messages :D

:3

that

would

be

too

convenient

Maybe add some structures at these two parts to make accidentally falling back harder.

good idea

done :D

Minor changes:

• Fixed some design and entitie bugs

Optimized version attached,

. Changelog:

how tf did you get it down -150kb

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If anything, more map updates ≠ the map will be released faster

wait...

It depends a lot. If the person just keeps updating without any context, obviously not, but if the person updates in the context of improving the gameplay/design of a map, maybe.

gg!

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this part dont need enter really to 3 to pass u can go just for up and use hookable to get helped

can do any like this

The former HT is useless, the latter one makes it kinda annoying to hook down, given it's a flow part

you can just hook directly downwards in the 24to corner and hold A xd

dont think it matters

i actually think it looks better too

for what ramaa said

did I fix it or do I need to fix something?

can you go and check+

hm yeah

sec

in bit3 run x)

? just complete the tele visually

is this meant to be floorhammer? i swear it was a forced stall before. idk if u want them to do either one

aah yeah shit I fix

can you raise this freeze? my point was that if u dj u freeze if they're not unfrozen yet and first time thru i didnt notice

i dont think it really breaks the part

just by 1 fixes the middle of it

OH you added unfreeze im stupid

now you can bonk on the bottom of this 3t ht? why was this added?

to prevent lag walk >

unless i dont remember this last time

stopper?

or just move it left 1

1x1 seems rough with that speed

idk why u wouldnt just add some space xd

whole plat is quite long

yeah idk

i must be doing this part wrong cus it feels tighter than the other ones xd

corner is now gone xd? and wall tele still there so ur punished if ur mate goes wall

now the part feels bad with weak

its supposed to be gone :D

is that to make it less likely that they fall in

tele

these 2 walltele scare the shit out of me. i have not once hit them. they just give me fear. that is all

kinda pointless ht imo. you expect the player to hit a running edgehook, then dont trust them to wait for the tee to fall enough?

sorta insulting actually xd

this area has weird flow. it feels like you're meant to go toward the hookable (hookable usually means do a thing) and then realize you're in the wrong spot

might work better in CP but u alr use mostly regular tele

also lagwalk just killed me xD

double tele

unnecessary double tp + the farthest point they spawn you cant afk

oops

also how are you meant to do this anymore? i forgor part

°!!!!

add unfreeze down to freeze

nvm im stupid. but holding jump + D = shit for dummy cus they run away

maybe dont put unfreeze there

i dont even remember the tele being out of freeze before :/

still think unfreeze below so its ez b

wasnt fixed but posted before not sure if u just didnt want it

ramaa's solution: put a back tele here instead, then you can both use it to skip backtracking

just use laser :D

(i gave credit dwdw)

but what happend if i miss when i up

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it's just annoying to have to do part of the part to b xD

you put back unfreeze in all other parts just not this one

just read the channel. I added that and removed it 6 times.

meh

add again

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back tele would be better then

i'll think about it :D

other stuff i think u should fix tho

potential way to fix this is make the fly a bit shorter and extend 26 tele right, then remove the bottom plat entirely

suggested fix is move the ht 2 left to touch freeze

you still want animations or sth ?

no thanks :D

fixed stuff ot make it flow better :D just some small touches

good work

good boy :3

Why did you add those red circles on the map? Wouldn't it be better to just change that part?

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why no unfreeze (again) 💔

double tele on 6 7 and 9