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Map 🐞: Debug output is too long, see attached file.

XD

why

i changed it

i changed speedup tiles

sorry, but i have no idea how to debug it

i tried to simply delete these places but it doesn't help 😦

its a bug

also add time cps

bot bug ignore

thanks

what does it mean?

ohhhh, i forgot

dont add all of them btw, just a few in main spots

Hey typo_chell, I played through your map and honestly, I’m pretty impressed with how you put it together. I can tell you really thought about creating the map and it doesn’t feel rushed at all.

There’s a big issue tho that most of the parts just don’t match today’s standards anymore. It’s clear you took a lot of inspiration from Purple Panic, but you added your own touch, which helped. especially at the end of the parts where you have different jumps to get to the next part. That was a cool idea.

Still, a lot of the gameplay felt kind of repetitive. We’ve seen this style a lot already. The freeze hammer is also super overused, and it’s basically always the same setup. But to be fair, there was one freeze hammer part I really liked. I’ll show you which one.

Maybe check out the map Offpanic sometime. That mapper found a way to keep things fun without using the same kind of moves all the time. However, I would still not get inspiration by Offpanic in structure and mapping wise, since its based on the Purple Panic series and that are not our standards today. You should rather look at some recently released Moderate/Brutal maps to get inspiration from. https://ddnet.org/releases/

If you level up your gameplay ideas a bit and show that you can do more than just the basics, I think your map could totally get released. There’s nothing wrong with your mapping itself. It’s just the gameplay that needs some work.

Also found a few things I’ll point out to help you clean things up for next time. Thanks for submitting and good luck with your next map!

You have some unused images and those big images make your map-size 1.5mb+ Avoid that if you can and reduce images or avoid using unnecessary images.

That could have been avoided too

I liked how these parts worked well and that the you tested how much speed you have to make it work good.

I liked how the freeze hammers were set-up that you always get right into the corner. There is some tight space in some parts tho and in that part for example, I always jump against the wall.

Some moves like these were a little bit uncomfortable.

That idea is already used in some maps and seems to be used in a worse way here. You have almost no space to move down there and basically no time to move which makes it bad.

Compare parts to other parts and balanced them out. Some are way too long and too hard, and some are just way harder than others.

They should be on the same level.

And then some parts like these just don't offer anything interesting.

However, I told you above in my review, that you should be more creative when you create parts and try to map something different to create a map which is unique and not like others :)

Mention:

ok, ill redo map

Okay. Try to not copy the purple panic style haha

not a bot bug, don't claim something like that if you have no clue.

Use Nightly or 19.2 (if released) in order to fix this map-bug. They are actually invisible for you in 19.1

srry, I thought it was bugs since I saw some new maps released and giving these errors

i have redone a couple of parts and made them easier. Should i change the style?

ohh

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changelog?

ye

Since you only wrote that, I will remind you that your was declined before and the reason is written above.

this map wont release?

If you changed stuff it would be nice if you attach screenshots to show what exactly you changed...

i changed fly part

made it some easier

made very unbalanced part easier

As I wrote above, the biggest issue was that your parts don't fit our standards especially because the gameplay feels like one of those purple panic maps with just the freeze hammer added at most parts.

made it more interesting

why is style looks like it is purple panic?

cause of color?

The gameplay wasn't interesting and basically inspired by purple panic

These parts are so outdated and if you looked at our other released Moderate/Brutal maps with dragparts, you would realize that.

These kind of parts got released a ton already

To see what we are looking for and to map modern parts, you should really take some time to play more brutal maps and create something more innovative

https://ddnet.org/releases/

Triplicitee by catseyenebulous Brassrun by Kaniosek Holidays 2 by Destoros Morthal by Genex

these are some brutal maps which contain drag parts

do I need to do like this?

Look at the maps i told u

And look at other newer maps to get a feeling for that

If u play a lot u will see what is good

I suggest u to start the map from new

The parts just dont offer anything interesting or new

It won‘t be enough to remap your parts.

You gotta spend more time and give your thought about each part more time. You are limiting yourself in the current space used which will bring worse results than starting with mapping parts from 0

Also by looking at this part, you didn‘t acknowledge the given feedback in terms of space,

Additionally the space within the part when playing is really tight and just uncomfortable

sorry to tell you, but you need to spend a lot time on parts. Create a new map and give it more time. I told you maps to look at

ok

ill do another one

Mappingwise you did a good job

You kept it clean mostly

And you were creative with the jumps after each part Just need to push ur creativity and create nice parts

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maaan, its so outdated, look at paths they so tight, map like this never release in these days. i will send my unfinished guide in dm. dont take old maps as reference. dont try to rework them. make ur own small map. like 3-5 parts , take video and share it on this channel

U will get fast feedback what u did wrong and fix it immediately and didnt copy mistakes from part to part.