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unfreezed not marked

the gores stuff is way to hard for novice

or more like the color seems off

man, how was i supposed to know there was a unfreeze there???? , and as if this part were more for a moderate, because if you make a mistake you can't go back, I think it would be good to fix it xD

think of a newbie who doesn't know that page up does such a thing

or even a novice who will easily lose

Missing unfreeze, I know

Later fix

Thanks!

sequel to moonlight?

yeah, something like that ^^

wena choro, imo this part would be better if you put ht with hookable around, and u should consider to put more space down there

this part of the gore is really tight for novice, then imagine recent player trying to save players or smth, so maybe consider delete the freeze on top (1) or down 3 tiles more or less the freeze(2)

wena wena arrow, fixed everything and change a bit the color of background and added arrows decorations

also, this map needs a logo :c need help for that

how do you want the logo maybe i can try to make it for you

Hmm something cute, don't know xd. Let me try for my own first if I can do something

I made the logo, thanks anyways xd

I change the background color again and add it a little more unhookables and design a bit

And this fall, it feels a bit long ? or should I shorten it a bit

imo yes, u should

you could reduce a lot of the weight in the map by deleting these mapres, bcs u use it like 2 or 3 times

statue: just 2 arrows: just 3

I want the arrows :c xd

The other option that can I do is delete the others arrows and the other stuffs and only let the things that I want

Sounds good?

No te entendí bien sjjdjdjd

I didint understsnd u

osea que borro las otras cuestiones con el photoshop y dejo solo lo que voy a utilizar

xd

this entire gores is still to hard for novice players but more the right half

but it's not a novice 2 stars, it's a bit hard

even for 5 stars i think it is to hard

so is this

too hard ?

ye

not sure anyway about the end of this part

if you get alot of players there they blocking eachother and have to wait

and since novice players struggle with hammerfly this gonna take a while

Sunny Side Up had the same problem

if I fill the top of that freezes with unfreezes, should be good ? or instead I do like, don't know, less hard or something

Ye its a good option but its hard

mhh ye could do that but not really a big fan of that idea but its ok

good

Can I use this same color of unfreeze for the stoppers?

if its clear that there are stoppers ofc you can

invisible freeze

alright, fixed everything

fixed some corners

genuinely, i kinda think this part is a heaven for trolls

imo one of problem is it being blocky, and another problem being a hard spot to save if someone gets thrown like my dummy. I would suggest to make the yellow marked blocks into ht so it's easy to save, but as you wish

i feel like this part is way too faily for a novice

rn i found like 4 ways to fail lol,

1- you can get stuck in stoppers by accident 2- your teammate might fall down and then the part isn't doable, which means you can't pass further 3 - you can fall into freeze, and if so that's a fail 4- if by accident you do fall on marked yellow ugly square you can't get saved as intended

(it's if you play duo with someone, if you play in t0 or with more players in one team the spots are saveable, but extremely hard for new players)

and i kinda think it isn't well mapped at that point

you can also get stuck randomly on that corner due to stoppers, which is kinda annoying tbh, especially if you trynna speedrun

red - is it intended?

yellow - sunny design is missing?

this part is also a bit hard, maybe it's ok

quite confusing tbh, maybe mark somehow so players can understand from where to hf rather than doing some hard maths

this part feels skippable with a speedfly from down and with a throw later, it's just an assumption tho, haven't tried with dummy, idk if you care

trolls most likely will have a great oppurtunity to troll at the end of the map, as the yellow square is unreachable with hook, which means you can't save poor guy who got blocked by any way :(

maybe make it ht xd? won't change gameplay much but will make newbies feel more comfortable there ig, as you wish

that's it,

rly cool map, surely improved from your last novice game play wise :D

though there is one thing i dislike about it, it's way too failable xd maybe it's okay for a 5 novice, but personally i would avoid that even if it's a 5

and yes, such gores parts doesn't really fit the novice thematic imo XD

blockers can love this part

yep, intended

should I change this whole part?

or put teles

I would revamp it, but as you wish ig xd

good map

Add stoppers so they cant fail if they jump back

ht necessary here?

Here maybe if you want, you can either add 1 or 2 tiles ht, or make part of the ground unhook so they dont hook themselves into freeze xD

imo, grass infront of the bush looks weird idk

Is this a throw or smth? if it is, then its harder than whole map for nobos xD + map looks 2-3*

Maybe add abit of ht? (yellow)

You forgot green in here

Same here

That part of the grass is unhookable

Corners

Its for blockers

imo you should put ht here, i just die bcs of the lag

pls

no

?

too far from the start

alright, fixed

don't know what testers thinks about this

why don't hue decor grass to fit the one u walk on? i believe it would look better than usual green, considering that u aimed for night atmosphere (i guess?)

didn't understand this

just a lil suggestion which may improve design, i meant why not change colors of decorative grass to blue tints your main grass has?

may make the map look prettier but not rly needed, depends on you xd

Hmm, don't know how it will looks, need to see it in game

xd

yeah as i said it's not really needed, just like that it would look prettier to me, if you like the way it looking rn then it's not a problem

@Deleted User looks better with those colors, thanks! xd

I change the colors of the balkens too

I'm wondering that this logo will look cool with some particles, but don't know how

and some movement

if u just run down and dont jump to the wall its not possible to reach your mate anymore. probably this will never happen cuz its pretty obvious u have to jump to wall. but in a novice map some ppl will maybe just run down and "fail" like that

add unfreeze here

rest of maps looks fine to me. some parts have mini skips but they are not easier or faster. so dont think its worth to fix them. but if u want i can still show u the "cheats"

mby unfreeze there also

fixed, thanks!

forgot to add some random pattern

The map name can be changed to "Give u the Moon" ? Please

$change name "Give u the Moon"

done, but change the file name too

Thanks! Forgot that

can u upload with new name?

Yep

Now

yes

about this suggestion, need help

move the spawn

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ahi noma coke

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move the spawns or reduce the part

yeah its so long way to start, just move spawn

but wait with the fixes, we'r not done

to me the red looks like there is hookable in there, below i edited it like it should be in my opinion

you should use different stopper designs, one for stopper in freeze and one without freeze (whole map)

red = missing unfreeze, blue = example for the stopper design, it looks like there is no freeze

u forgot the hd things

the statue and the arrow b4 startline

you do not have to turn on detail at map logo

$waiting

unbalanced part

novice players cant do gores

same here

u can keep the parts just make them a lot easier

ye, like coke said hookable like this doesnt make sense

cuz even if u hook thru the hookthru there iis still grass there

kinda unbalanced to imo, idk if this is a good move to add here

only 1 hammerfly spot with freeze right under and freeze around it = bad decision for t0

add a platform here so u dont fall 50000000 blocks if u dont get hooked

inconsistent with stoppers on parts like these

make 2 tall so ppl with weak dont suffer here

and maybe put blocks on the red so ppl cant swing in and skip it

overall kinda boringish map but its a "modern novice" so idk it might get rls anyways

i think u can improve the structure of ur mapping aat least

its all just huge squares and its very boring to look at

like here

also weird how u have 2 parts with tele randomly in the map where everything else isnt

agree, its a pretty normal map but i always think that ALL novice maps are boring for NO novices players xD im a brutal/moderate player and i think novices pretty boring but noobs wont think that way, i think so

why do you have a cone on your head

rhyno

Sorry for taking this too long, I was really desmotivated. Changed whole hf part, add some text at the end of the map and I modified the logo a bit

Still need help with the particles at the logo, I want the "glow_stars" that I put in the empty group "MOVEMENT" falling like the leafs of the map Harvest

falling down

1.- its most likely that they do a drag here so make more room there pls 2.- down that like 2 tiles

1.- imo this looks bad 2.-you should change the hook inside of the ht it doesn't look good and its weird, also the hook isn't visible 3.-its very likely that novices players will jump into there, you could prevent that 😄

idk why you didnt put freeze design on top of the stoppers, its kind a confusing imo

idk about this but it wouldn't be better if u put shields

https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/881151912840425552/886706776341372970

still no progress

$waiting

Thanks for remember me this tip, didn't remember through all this time

i pointed out just the first screenshot

and was not watching the whole map again bcs the first screen was not even fixed

and my messages when I send the different versions?

that were the parts that I change

ah ok so the map is ready for u ?

and you do not want to change anything ?

the thing that you pointed I will change and arrow's tips too

after that, don't see any other change

The thing is, I'm going to take my time with this map. Because I've been watching you longer... You are very rude with your comments and reactions (other ppl saw it too) , no one is forced to test maps, I can also say why don't you do your mod work properly, I never see you do anything, just like 70% of the others.

And after this rude behavior the map is not even fixed, this has been a joke for me

Big joke 😁

that messages and reactions were because I was mad that this has taking so long, and the criteria that you're using for the map testing like "testing maps when we have the feeling that the map is good and good potential" or "the no one is forced to test maps" that you send It's so bad. In my opinion, testers should care more about maps, there are others maps in the map log that has taking a lot of time and still no message from testers

probably with this I can be wrong, I saw that after my map, there are other maps in progress or other things, but that are my reasons. Today I send the fixed version

i have tested 122 maps since january 2020 until today, you don't have to tell me that

FeaRZ, maps take long time to map and long time to test. One of my map only released after 2 years (first map), and i didnt had help, only after, when i met Cøke. texnonik also took long long long time to get for him his first map released. So imagine. All this comments about ppl, ohh.... "when test?" "when rls" "testers?" "gifs" "map takes so long" "map is so long in testing" etc etc are all jokes. You should expect this bcs there are probably 20+ maps in testing. Testers arent paid, only acknowledged, and mostly not even that. They do it cause they like the game and enjoy testing maps, to make the game continue in chronological time, meaning maps shouldnt look the same they did 10 years ago and they should have high standards these days as maps getting harder to map. (im not targeting you/your map, just so you are aware).

fixed everything

didn't understand this xd

if someone stays there, it's possible to save

que por qué pusiste no pusiste el diseño del freeze

en el stopper

es confuso y raro

porq es del stoppper esa zona

el diseño del stopper

the numer 1 that you marked don't know how to change it to looks more formal or cool

changed this too

pero también hay freeze, por qué no mezclar los 2

poner diseño del freeze ahi arribita?

en general

en cada stopper

changed parallax to the logo

se ve feo con los fillers de freeze

según yo

puta no se mno, pero yo creo que seria mejor buscar alguna otra forma para que no se viera raro idk bro, i think it would be better if u search another way so it doesnt looks that weird

hi

your map got some mayor issues with marks. you cant see a big difference between unfreeze and marked stopper (+ freeze behind) like in these screenshots:

there are like 20 spots which has to be changed.

you have also some issues with the design

xmas stars are moving to fast rn (looks horrible weird af), also both type of stars have to be expanded or you have to change the parallax of both

when u stand at the finish you have half screen with normal stars and the other half is filled with xmas stars.

like in this screenshot

alright thanks, fixed

there are still some problems^^

those ht's r confusing xd looks like hook cause gras is behind (there are more spots where u have to change it)

u have to change those, it looks like unfreeze...

pls check whole map, i found them just by running through

already said all of this

xd

have stopped testing because nothing is done

i know^^ but when he doesnt change everything than we have to decline it...

Can u give me a solution how to fix this pls

Thanks anyways, don't see all other errors

In this pic, what should I change, I like how it looks

The last one

there are still stoppers with freeze marked like unfreeze

the line where u put the shields are also freeze

looks like unfreeze

I use the same color of marker for all of that stuffs

Should I change color for different things?

Unfreezes and stoppers?

ofc, especially when there is freeze behind... novice maps are mostly played by new players, imo it looks like this "stopper-marks" arent danger, but they are, cause freeze is behind^^

question, how should be look good for the markers of the stoppers, should be with some transparency and should be behind the tee?

or in front

Imo u should do it as i did in beyond light

And not green xd

Haha

Gonnalook a it

Funny that such simple things take so much time

Hope everything its ok now, changed markers and hookthroughs inside the grass main

I still need to do changes

$waiting

anyhting happening here?

I wanna still doing this map, only got desmotivated

Srry

changes

im going to check it out later, looks nice so far

thank you!

There's unfreeze missing in the second screenshot.

The map is surprisingly faily for novices considering the first few parts are very easy, there's like ten places where beginners can fail easily. For example in this part you either have to set up for a swing, which beginners don't know to do, or hit a tight timing of hooking and airjumping first try.

I'll modify the parts, thx for feedback. So, some parts can have some kind of faily spots, I don't want it like novice 1 star

$waiting

changes

Don't know rrly if this part is good enough. Maybe players can get troubles here and can take some time to pass it

Tell me pls if its worth it

corners

looks a bit annoying to put the tee in the stopper

fixed

There are some big open areas where it's not instantly clear where to go with default zoom, I think those would benefit from some sign doodads. Also stopper design is inconsistent, sometimes there is freeze in them and sometimes not, but they always look the same.

theres a lot of bad freeze tiles around the whole map

Don't rlly understand this, if the stopper has freeze in it, every stopper has to be with freeze?

That are the fillers, I don't put any entities to that

i see, sry

what about this ones

?

those dont matter u cant see it in deisgn

coke said that helps in kb

barely..

maybe 0.5 kb

and we have a bot that did that before, honestly its not worth it to do without a bot

then when do it

the ones that have freeze in them should look like they have freeze in them

How, changing the color of stoppers markers?

the background color in them

put freeze design under it and if that looks bad then try another color that looks more like freeze

Question, could be the marker of unfreeze and stoppers the same color?

yes you could, just need to have a clear icon

like how semang done

I was talking more about something like this, make it clear when you are gonna be frozen inside a stopper and when not

also damn your layers are confusing

what's the reason to have them this way?

also shouldn't use the same kind of arrow for stoppers and speedups

Nice, this way looks more cleaner

didn't understand what you trynna point out

I mean you have some freeze corners etc on another layer, also weird order etc

not really a problem but annoying to test

I use that way cuz someone told me that the corners should be on another layer

But I can change that

no need to at this point, but keep it cleaner in the future 😄

alright, thx for the advices. Sorry if I'm taking too long in this, I'm not a pro mapper xD

take your time, I'm keeping an eye out

lol this is still a problem, explained this a few times xd

$waiting

Fixed

yes this just caused some confusion in this part

so many places a nobo can just walk into and it's gg

imo bad mapping style for novice

u can skip this by dragging dummy up with u

yea but when you climb up here and realize it's stoppers that's pretty bullshit, not just novice 5*

make tele on the back of it

or change the part

another thing i dislike is that there are many of these 1 tile wide tunnels

which cant really be done that fast

yes and all the random freeze columns

something about the map feels pretty bare, there's only 1 part i can remember, the first 2 parts are good too

it's just mapped soooo big

How?

The perspective of editor and in-game view sucks a bit

in general i have the opinion that novice maps can't avoid having some of the same parts as other maps, but it feels like with this map these parts are the majority not the minority

ill test again

Ok

still not what I meant with the stoppers 😅 you need freeze design inside stopper design if you have freeze entities inside stopper entities

Here, down there the freeze design inside the stopper design and up there the normal stopper design, you can see that difference

is it good like this or is it wrong

?

yes!

Thx, and another doubt

That kind of stoppers placed at the end of some freeze or something like this that I have through the map. Can have freeze inside or not?

if it doesn't lead to getting stuck in some slightly annoying place then sure

I modified this part a bit

pointless speeders

it's possible to throw here but I doubt novice players can pull it off

markings should have at least a little transparency

also background parallax is really funky, don't use negative values

its possible to throw but it's not rlly easy as a first try

I meant the arrow itself, pure white is not nice to look at

also what's the purpose of those speeders?

Ok

The tee who goes up can fall more faster, so the tee who are down don't have to wait so much. Just a faster timing

falling doesn't take long, speeder is a bit weird

I have 2 parts with speeders in the map, the first ones. Should I delete it?

where are other speeders? I didn't see any

those

ah the first part

well all of those seem useless to me, I'd remove them

nice

and you didn't wanna add more signs?

Cool!

Signs like this?

yeah, there are some big open areas where you don't see right away where to go, so sometimes you go the wrong way and have to turn around

Okay, gonna check it

this is wrong info, looks like "first go up, then down"

well, don't know rlly how to put a sign to that part, the wood signs don't have like double arrows for both ways

no need to

fixed

$optimize

$ready 3

Somehow weird that the moon is behind all stars :v)