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Our first map

holy shit its ddrace the map

here

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Very funny spawn.

what

ok, I change sorry

changed spawn tiles setup

i've been telling u abt this

Please don't waste our time by submitting troll maps

it's not troll map

hey i have a few things i noticed while playing your map

1. Logo feels a but squished but dunno maybe just me
2. boring part i think the whole concept is not rly interesting
3. its annoying to get infini hook back if you lose it
4. this part is just straight up annoying and not fun to play
5. this is just way too long you could have continued from where you exit the last part, if you go into the area 1 its annoying to get him out (thats why you shouldnt stack parts on top of each other)
6. again why make these so unnecesaarily long you first need to get both hammer again (mark that btw i forgot the first time) and then another anoyinngly long dummy drag
7. why is there no telegun here? its not even on yet
8. why is there a unfreeze and the getting hammer back whats the point of having it above there
9. without hammer the gliding the dummy up is so painstakingly long
10. most of the time when you shoot your teammate you dont go down you get backup to the plattform (also maybe do more telegun parts taking it away so early is not good)

yeah, first map

3. You get infinite hook going up back here \7. to prevent players from keeping telegun when they go back

8. water messed up here

oh wait no

it's when only one gets hammer back

then the other also has it

11. if you dont press anything you go into tele which is annoyingd
12. wrong icon
13. either im not understanding this part or its impossible
14. im sorry for saying those previous once were too long this is on a whole nother level
15. first off you can cheese endless for both for this part (it gets taken away next part) and this is so uselessly tall
16. am i understanding this right you get 1 through he backs and gets the other one? theres better ways to get both over there oh and thats everywhere you connected the parts quite lazily
17. good concept badly mapped if you just enter the tp earlier in the middle earlier it would work the scnd part of the drag is quite boring overalll you should connect parts better thats what fillers are for dj resets are such anooying ways to get somewhere pls do tps or smth else you take away endless jetpack andtele gun five it too much you could split it up into multiple parts one endless one tlegun one jetpack

why would anyone back? preventing backs doesnt matter

not readable mark it somehow

i would never understood that

i dont usually say this but i think your better off starting a new map you cant really change anything without messing it all up

oh i missed a bit of the map

ill test the few parts rq

just a question would fully remaking the map but keeping the same concept work as "starting a new map"

you have quite a hard concept

you will need to get really creative for it not to be boring

the jetpack and the subsequent livefreeze part were made by me so if you spot any issues there, blame me

i recoomend you try simpler concepts and comeback to this concept later

you piull him under most of the time

forcing ppl to move around so much in a no walking zone is annoying

its so annoying to get him up there to the point of not being fun

why are 2 pointing left

gl you two i hope to see another map from you soon :3

bagis made it so u can hold d in that passage without getting pulled into teleports

and how would anyone know that its these small things that matter a part like that should work no matter what you do

1. lowered the hookable
2. reworked the part so it's not that long
3. added hookthroughn't to prevent cheating

fixed tele issue

1 2 Shortened this drag to make it less boring 3 added hookable and lowered the telegun to make it less slow and boring (and there's more unhooks on the right so you don't have to do the entire drag again when you miss hook) 4 changed the part so you don't have to walk around the map to complete it

removed the hookthrough as it's not necessary anymore, added corners on the tele and fixed some design bugs stuff

one of edits made the part cheatable but i'll leave it so it's not that long (getting hammer part)

changed the placement of a few hookables to make the part possible

1. you cant retry this part anymore
2. you can solo this
3. still a wait do it differently that doesnt require 5 seconds of waiting which it does currently
4. still too long
5. way too long flight + you cant go solo up after you dragged him down (which is also uselessly long) i wont mention the things you havent changed but most parts are still boring and take too long

dont submit parts 1 by 1

work on them all then submit them as a whole

look at changelogs 🙏

i started when these things were present

so pls dont upload 1 by 1 changes

bundle them all up once you changed all requestet things

ok, sorry

dw just keep that in mind

how can I not retry that?

there's cps

ah yea i see now

mark them

with back

a lot of work, I understand why so many maps get declined now

i dont wanna sound rude but your map is quite a lot worse than other maps i have tested most parts require specific inputs and are quite generic overall

4. is meant to be long, just made it less repetetive

its just not a good drag

its boring theres nothing special you pull him down then he walks right and you help him

its too large for such a basic part

also theres a lot of parts similar to this its quite repetitive

ok, I will change it A LOT then

and I wanna repeat this

1 replaced tele4 with cp tele 2 removed endless hook and teles at the 2nd part of the part, changed unhooks to hookthrough 3 changed walljump to this to make it easier

ok, enough for today

wow u actually realise that walljump is always a bad addition to a map

now can you do the same for 4 other walljump parts

You can

1. changed the livefreeze part to be less annoying
2. reduced the space in the jetpack part for lack of need of it
3. replaced walljump in no hammer part to hookable
4. reduced walljump in final part
5. some other changes i probably forgot of

1 replaced walljump and hookables with unhook platforms at the last part 2 edited the very long drag part, so it's not that boring 3 added stoppers to make it less annoying when you miss hook 4 changed the part so you can't enter the wrong hole while being dragged

1. mark only important things with turn off entities
2. you can pull your team mate through
3. you shouldnt use this block to stop skips and still skipable btw and annoying to hook all the way up here just to do this uselessly long drag too get hammer back and then doing anothe long drag without anything special
4. why the no hook spam?
5. its annoying to get him out of the box ill continue later but you are using to many special tiles to fix issues on your map refrain from using those. The parts overall are still bland without anything special

2 That's the intended way 3 how can you skip that? 4 to preven ppl from keeping hook using telegun

then put it later

why spam it

3 you hook up and then dj

2. then i did it wrong the first time xd

5 I can lower the unhook plaform by 2 tiles

Put what later? Telegun?

the no hook

Wdym later? They can shoot someone that's behind the no hook tiles

My favourite mechanic

11. spam again. 1 wasnt enough?

3 they can WALK behind the weapon tele and only then shoot teammate 4 this was updated already

11 the same thing as 3

9 when you get on the lower platform jump+DJ makes it possible to hook the dragged player from the in-air platform

They go all the way to the left then just swing by jump + hold D

For the rest, I'll change them when I get back home

8 no, you just have to hook more to the left

or just this wall

5 what do you expect me to put there?

why is it so specific?

that shouldnt be the case

i hook the top

and 90% of the time it just happens

if I fix it for those who hook the right part, the ones hooking left part will have hard time beating the part

I can mark the wall

then change the part completely

in such cases there shouldnt be specific solutions

I can do that with one staying unfrozen and the other one being dragged through hookthoughs

that's the best I can think ok

*of

theres a simple solution that requires deleting like 5 blocks

ill let you think

ok I thought

those ones?

gj!

but not quite

those below

ok, makes sense

nah, you still get pulled in

lower the plattform maybe

no, I found a way i think

just added 2 unhooks here

1 removed unnecessary walljumps 2 removed hookables, changed hookthroughn't to hammer (which is taken away later) 3 added a hookthrough platform so you can't pull your teammate in the wrong place 4 lowered the hookthrough and the platform so the pull is easier with weak 5 changed live freeze drag to this to make it almost impossible to pull teammate with you

still got more stuff to do, but don't think i'll finish today

tooo much hookthrough on 3

checked 7 I can't. If I did, the player'd be able to use jetpack to fly over teles

ill look at the rest later

why?

its annoying to maneuver around

too little was even more annoying

like 3 less hookthrough would be fine

il try

2 more is better, but i'll post that after I do more changes to avoid updating every 10 minutes

still a boring drag its just uneccsarily long and nothing special

now its annoying to exit the are where the draggy thing pulls you

such a long way up with out anything interesting

before you work on anything else i reccomend you try to compact the drags to a size where they arent too long

just get in tele14

when it was interesting walljumps, you said it's hard, annoying and repetetive

it would be better if some thing like this it would be easier to create something good with that and you wont need to do a whole world tour without moving

ok that makes sense

1 changed the live freeze drag part so it's faster to proceed after the drag 2 shortened the hookthrough platform 3 changed the stopper to unhookable 4 fixed some design bugs

(Changes by watercolours) changed the starting area removed the unused space to be accesible from out of bounds by finishers removed the now obsolete laser blocker in livefreeze part changed the down to up dummy drag in jetpack part so it can't be beaten solo

How do I get our map undeclined?

convince the testers enough

and pray for the stars to align

change discord accounts, map name, design and burn all data about this incident

but I wanna keep the map

all mappers who got decline wanted to keep it

oh man it reminds me about adorenarine 2

added speedups in the part, as it was very hard to do the drag w/o them removed ground speedups (also this is a quick fix, im not gonna keep that part)

i got redline katana released after a decline by completely reworking the entire map in less than a week and essentially making it a new submission

It'll be hard after my "funny" entities pixelart

if its hard to drag without speedups you should change the part only use speedup if nescessary

I said I don't wanna keep that

then dont change it

just remove it

the fact that you uselessly put speedups is a bad change

bro, i just wanted to make the map possible

then a tester will tell you its impossible its not that deep

usually a decline means fixing parts isnt enough

maps in waiting are those that can be fixed after a couple tweaks

well, they declined bc I put "scissors" as spawn

well thats just you telling them that the map is low effort

didn't know I can speak their special language 🙁

if you add such details its gonna obviously get declined

just happened to add a little troll to the map, now I'm getting punished for that

its a kids game and you add a d on your map

imagine that youre a tester and stumble across a map that literally starts with a rocket ship

yeah, I did not think twice b4 submitting

putting real effort into design also tells the testers that youre serious about the map and that its not just some low effort thing you came up with in an afternoon

is this low-effort design?

kinda

you have no deco

your tiles are basic

LOOOOL

for a map about drags, u have no drag mechanics

here u have hook on ur mate already, but then u solo with walljump

for some reason u use a deep there instead of 1tiler, but its too short to be a real deep

jao kebab please could you give those pretty entities

to me

in terms of transitions, both are terrible, u need to think abt balance bw tees

we left behind these 1tiler tunnels in glassbox days, u should have it go directly into part for the other player

first and second parts are functionally the same. in all of the map u have so amny times the same part, what reason is there for that part to exist in second screen?

rly cool part

again cool part. i didnt understand what dragger did for a while, u should htink about cheats when mapping cuz the hookables on left arent needed but can be used to skip dragger

and then its right back to sleeper partsagain until finish

better delete rest, outside of those two it felt like u were trying to see how many times u can map the same thing

drags have a lot of potential which went mostly unused, u should avoid mapping vanilla drags

the two parts u gave positive opinions to are actually made by me

...

Ok, looks like we shold keep 2 parts and do more creative stuff. Basically a new map

At least I can tell myself that this is very usual when making first map

ive told you this at the start but yeah gl on your next map!

Just wanted to try to improve it, but I see that just making a new map will be faster.

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