some part/design/bug fixes thx to Freezy Broke and Jao

fixed some design bugs thx to freezy

one design bug + added 2 unfreeze tiles at cp8 + teamforce

fixed logo. last version for now i guess //edit uploading new version later for few designbugs

xD

fixed edges, walls etc... thanks to freezy^^

Changed CP 20 Deep Part, yes, I am allowed to upload

yes

$rate Balance=7 flow=7 creativity=7 playability=7 fun=4 design=2

Thx for rating 🤙🏻

?

some fixes..

sry

only designfixes

ok

drück mal knopf broke

ty

fixed design bugs, edited background

was

$rate balance=6 flow=7 creativity=6 playability=8 fun=4 design=2

you shouldn't rate your own design xd

xd

Design -3 because rotated entities 👺

xD Ravie❤

Fixed CP 9 Cheat, reworked CP 21, Fixed Deep CP (CP 7 + CP15)

(CP 21 Rework)

added some tele at cp 20, cp 13 deep removed onetiler(made 2tile of it) and some bugs fixed

$rate balance=6 flow=6 creativity=7 playability=6 fun=3 design=1

$rate balance=6 flow=7 creativity=7 playability=6 fun=3 design=1

First few parts feel easier, But some part are brainy and the Entities spam make it a bit confusing

agree with cookie, entities spam makes it hard to play some parts, maybe making the parts more simplified could improve it, but it's fine as it is - distracting tho

$rate playability=7

$rate balance=7

fixed version, designbug, entities spam removed, one part more creative and more balanced

little designbug

made more room at cp17

bugfix, last part more space

$rate balance=6 flow=8 creativity=9 playability=7 fun=4 design=1

i found some parts much easier compared to the rest of the map

parts are well connected and require nice cooperation between players, i like it

9 creativity sounds too much considering there are parts like this

there are a lot of super creative parts, but those on screen arent at all

i have to agree with u

not saying it isn't good, but for it to be excellent, every part should be creative

$creativity=8

why it doesnt work

u need to do $rate

oh

not $creativity

$rate creativity=8

changed last part again, fixed designbugs,

The map scored all required points! It only needs to be checked by a

now to be released

why cp6 here

u could mark it or something

what

idk when u fall down u have to react in like 1s if u dont wanna fail, i mean u need to know the part if u dont wanna fail

i was confused when i first time played this map, its up to u if u wanna warn it

ok not my decision

fixed some stuff (also the other jesus screens)

fixed one of jesus screens

Let's play a game: Spot the Tele

?

Not that one

its a feature, game in game

whats the problem with that tele?

find the tele > ddrace > gores > fng

i didn't saw

Took me like 1 min to figure out it was there

what to do now xD?

no rotated entities anymore..

Release when ?

never

remove this invisible tele or declined

Its not invisible

I literally have to strain my eyes to see it with lowered brightness setting

okok will fix later

now or no release

is it better?

yeah i guess

tele isnt invisible anymore🎉

🎉

Gonna Test it?

Y test it Ravie, do something for your money!

Rls?

you can't use grass_main as unhook here. in general, grass_main is most of the time a hookable marking and in gores maps/parts, it always is. if you would have introduced it as an unhook marking before, it would be fine. but since you didn't, there is no way you can know about it. lacking this knowledge may lead to dying

also, it has the same color as the hook marking and thus rather relates to hook than unhook

I will fix it later

fixed 😄

Okok

Now rls xD

release?

no

Why

😢

it has to be tested and rated by the most required testers. weird tho

I know that but they need fucking years to test a map

there are other maps waiting to be tested, we do it in our free time, and being annoying about ur map not being released asap won’t help either. that’s why it takes fucking years

Then why is there the MRS ? So the rating system is like shit you don't even need it then if the map has to be checked by a tester

Testers check for bugs/cheats and rule compliance while MRS rates maps

MRS do the same thing

did you see a MRS guy mention the last thing I reported? 😂😂

You are MRS Leader so xD

Remove freeze in tele (search the map, there are more)

buggy grass_main

grass_main is embedded twice

there should be a clear distinction between markings that have freeze under them and ones that do not, especially unfreeze

On hookthrough there should be tiny freeze corners instead of half tiles (you can see them through)

Mark laser blockers in design

those markings are definitely not clear xd

you can technically skip red tiles

middle speeder is useless

there is more deep than looks

part of they year xd

wow

wont change that part

too repetitive

another weird marking

what is weird at it

You should really find more than 1 color for marking places like this

I'll test gameplay properly once I play the map with someone else, for now just mapping/design/entities bugs

fixed all relevant stuff

if questions, pm me

Almost nothing at all got changed

~Mapper Rules

From looking at just design alone many parts are definitely not clear

They are clearly marked and visible 🤔

Visible contrast-wise, but there is very often just too much stuff on top of each other to understand, it doesn't help that there is only 1 backing color, everything looks connected

If we would change the color it's looking weird

At least use 2 colors, 1 for things that have freeze and 1 for ones that do not, and also make sure it's visible which tiles exactly are what and not a bunch of random markings on top of a gray area

Why we should mark laser blockers?

To know the area in which they work

just a barely visible thin line would be enough

Hust road to rank 1 hust ravie

In road to rank 1 they are not marked so

I did not release Road to Rank 1, in fact I clearly wrote I think the map is not good enough to be released, so I was not the one testing it

Okay 🤔

we wont change that in our map.

its clear enough

Yep

I think it is not

It is

You are the mappers so for you it is, but if someone else looks at some of those markings and then has to guess which tiles affect what feature and if the jump marking is endless jump or 0 jumps it is not

no one else did say that

u are the only one

but ok. i will let jao decide on this

Fine, but I doubt he will just say "It's good, leave it, release"

2 little design things

there is a difference between laser blockers used in rescue systems and ones in actual parts that affect the gameplay 😂 not sure why you draw the rtr1 comparison

if u can't come up with well distinguishable markings because it would make the design look "weird", then perhaps the issue is the design 😂

btw the grass bg you added made it even worse. everything is grey so stuff blends into each other a lot

and tbh it just looks ultra boring

fixed all

rescue system someone said? without marked laser blockers it is 100% impossible to see wether the part is faily or not; so why should it be marked here??

100% unclear how the markings work i guess?

sadly im still responsible for that design

so wtf are you telling me to fix XD

could come up with way more examples, but counter that before i bother making it

only changed freezys last screen again the shadow xD

since i made something wrong

since the other one was syltoox' fault

100% unnecessary to know if there is freeze in the stoppers or not

just like about... everywhere in the map?

not knowing whether a part is faily or not while it’s unfaily can’t possibly harm you 😂 another unrelated comparison 😊

its faily

the part the rescue system is for is delimited with stoppers, imo that’s sufficient

Its all fixed

ah nice

Everything that

told us is fixed

Freezestyler doesn't want to be credited anymore, I think you should respect his request

ok will remove later

fixed no credits 😦

☹

Now I guess all is fixed 🤔

Those stoppers are now hard to see, also it's the only instance of markings with freeze you changed. Are you trying to fool me or something? 🤔

better?

one little change

removed border which i added accidentally

Now easy rls

release?

now easy rls

Finally 😅

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/421356705042137092/490250952184692766/doomworld-logo-fix.png

https://imgur.com/a/wLrlYnl

will fix later

fixed everything

fixed

speed up on edge of freeze ?

ja

red has freeze behind, blue doesn't (it probably shouldn't have freeze behind everywhere)

you didn't remove the left over door markings

nothing is in HD

also I noticed that your markings are very inconsistent: e.g. when freeze and unfreeze are against each other, sometimes the tiles that share a marking are freeze and sometimes unfreeze. stuff like that should be consistent throughout the whole map

mapper doesnt want the map to be released anymore

Wtf?

Who said we doesn't want the map to be released???

lmao

wtf

Shit system

)

Syltoox said it

ofc.

You can't keep decline the map, that you shouldn't have as understand by won't using decline a lot of non-tester and was people like as map for more rated

nice map

If it’s nice map why map was declined?

It's not declined

ik

obsolete undeep

also inconsistent markings there

usless edge !!!

there should be CP 4 here so that when you switch both get the correct CP

this speeder messes with the normal way of doing the part. pretty sure you can remove it safely

and change the other one to only 1 speed

then he will stay on edge

i dont see any problem with both speeders

the speeders are good, just make them both strength 1

ok jao?

and also i will let the useless edge stay

you can just drop the deeped tee into freeze, they will get teleported up undeeped with the door being still open. put swtich activators on the TO-teles or the red-marked area to prevent it

(cheat by n9)

nice and creative map but some shit and not creative parts

nice work

made last gores not solo

and bit easier

and fixed everything

???

fix

I fell asleep

ready 3*

Finally

this part is pretty spammy if you try it multiple times (which you will cause the hammer isn't that easy to get first try)

^test improving this part

oops

changed part at tele 9