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the design is the same but the entities no

Oh, my mistake

can skip the solo for up

the tele 6 dont have unfreeze

the gameplay the most parts are boring and this is so unbalanced

the unfreeze of up arent marked

repetitive

why 300 stopers 💀

3 feet or 😳

this part is possible?

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DeepFly

the part is so bad explained

AI is decline insta 😄

spaming random qr (i recomend dont scan this idk what is)

The parts seem random and bad xd

and why in some part is filled of entities and in others no

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There's not much to talk about, sorry. Try doing parts with different movements or something like that.

unmarked stopers and telegun logo

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There are already 4 maps that have not been accepted on DDNet 💀

see what you did wrong and do better, 4 rejected maps is very little

I thought it was a lot.

Why can't an AI logo be used?

Why is it AI

What? I don't know English, maybe the translator translated it wrong.

It is a rule of mapping not to use AI

I don’t think we’ve ever come to a conclusion on that actually

hmmmm but the logo is very simple he could have just done it in Photoshop or something idk

if there are officially published ddnet maps with AI-generated imagery in them, then there is an argument that we might have to tag the steam page for the game with the "made with AI" tag, which would likely result in a loss of new players. this doesn't apply to if some rando nobody's server hosts a map with ai generated stuff, but ddnet kinda has responsibility both for the steam listing of the game and any maps they decide to accept and publish on official ddnet servers

I guess you can apply logic, that in steam, it's only a client, and content of servers reachable is not counts. Otherwise, I can say, here is a lot of AI related stuff in whole TeeWorlds and if you not agree with initial statement, then we should scale it up, and put "ai things" lable because someone somewhere not related to ddnet and other official communities used AI.

I feel like I was pretty clear in my post that unofficial servers shouldn't count

like, here in the USA (so ya i know, not universal) i'd argue there's a legal distinction between maps on official ddnet servers and like anything on unofficial player hosted servers or services

in the US, ddnet gets pretty decent cover from being 'responsible' for third-party content (like unofficial servers) under section 230, so whatever happens on unofficial servers is irrelevant but official maps that actually get released have such special treatment and approval from ddnet that i'd argue it isnt third-party content anymore, so whatever gets accepted does reflect ddnet. the client also gives special treatment to ddnet-hosted servers since they are both maintained by the same group so thats not really third-party either.

but idk thats just my opinion

louis hate ai :´v

and he do a poll the other time

of ai use

and get 40 f4 aprox

i need search

mb was https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1441880472245371031

cat

but in my op

ai need be ilegal on mapaping

If louis is against AI then I agree with him. Fck AI slop... 0 effort bullshit

I dont know isnt ddnet and ddrace completly seperate? the game wouldnt lose any functionality if all ddrace servers would shut down, so kinda think this isnt true.

?????

They are technically as seperate as Microsoft and Windows so yes one would function without the other but ones Reputation reflects on the other

why would the entire game be made with AI if a single map (made by users not the devs) had AI assets in it

this is a crazy ass argument

like ok let me pull up on any Steam Workshop, draw some lines, AI-ify it and then get the whole fuckin page tagged

you would hope so but No they have been quantum entangled for eons and thats why we only get race features

no??????

this entire thread is ragebait

ddrace predates ddnet

ddnet client != ddnet network

i think if anything this thread shows how cooked we are

ehhh i dont like the tone this conversation's moving towards so i'm out i do think there is actually potential nuance to this subject. the "ai art always looks bad!! no it doesnt!!" arguments obviously went in circles going nowhere, but i feel there are other actual possible considerations that haven't really been discussed much. but i guess trying to talk about those sorts of considerations is just gonna go in circles too from what i'm seeing here. prolly for the best since this is just some random rejected map's channel anyway

There are simply too many unqualified opinions on this matter to actually take any of it seriously (relating to the mentioned thread). Discussing it properly is just not possible in the current surroundings and I don’t even want to. Personally I won’t enforce it but the views heavily split even within the testing team.

there is a thread for this

and i think you do raise good points.

hadnt even considered section 230

yea maybe ill go back to that thread at some point when i feel more willing to handle these sorts of discussions