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Oh this map. Did you not submit it under a different name before?

No?

I have only ever submitted 2 maps. DuckJetpack and now this is the 2nd one.

I tried to submit it before probably. But it showed up error with bot how I worded something.

This looks ddmax

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This is a crazy map

What about the map makes it look like ddmax?

I have played plenty of ddmax and ddrace maps. But personally I have been unable to find any clear differences. I would love to understand what things make this look like a ddmax and not a ddrace.

Please read and apply our mapping rules and guidelines before submitting your map: https://ddnet.org/rules/ https://ddnet.org/guidelines/ You might also want to compare your map to other new maps.

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What are the reasons for decline? I would love to understand why.

I have looked over the mapping rules before. And I haven’t seen an issue myself. So I am asking why?

I don’t see any patterns in map design when looking the other new maps. Please, if you could just give me some sort of understanding.

I looked at all the rules. I don’t see a fail personally.

This decline is not only caused by design-issues. I don't believe it when you say that you looked at other recently released maps and compared those to yours. There are just fundamental mapping flaws that will automatically improve when gathering more experience. For more detailed information or advice on how to map, please ask in

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Following the rules doesn't guarantee you a release - those just function as a baseline.

I have looked at other maps, but I don’t know what I am looking for in the new maps. All the maps look very different in their own way.

What are these fundamental flaws you are speaking of? I would like a list of at least some of them.

Well, the only complaint I got is the lack of reasoning for decline. There should be a “Reason for Decline” so the player understands why it was declined.

Then, why mention look at the rules? Was there anything failed on the rules?

So, the map can’t be designed to be faily?

1. the parts are really tight very cramped for more than 2 players
2. the difficulty of the parts seem very incosistent
3. most of the parts are really simple, boring, uncreative, anod unenjoyable to play / unsatisfying
4. too many speeders, nowdays its really unnecessary you should work with tp s instead for the most parts
5. it really feels like an oldschool map that was mapped 15 years ago
6. some parts use way too much special tiles wich makes the parts look chaotic, you could map way cleaner for the same gameplay purpose
7. some parts are REALLY repetative and is just annoying overall

You can get help in

in this case. 👍

the finish is unmarked

some parts that are messy / boring / uncreative

you do the same part 4 times

This might also come in handy for future maps.

also most importantly you shouldnt map insane maps if you cant finish insane maps

t0 maps excluded where u can get hard carried

1. If I were to force a team of 2 would this be fixed?
2. Where would you say the biggest difficulty changes are?
3. Most of the parts in the map aren’t in many/any other maps. No?
4. Well if the speeders are an issue. Then it’s pretty much done from there.
5. I don’t know what that looks like.
6. The map was designed to be chaotic. So, I will just leave the map for local tests only.
7. The annoying aspect is part of the map design. And which parts are that repetitive? Thanks for your amazing feedback 😊. Now I actually understand why the map is declined.

It’s just a 4 jump timing. Nothing too much.

Oh, my bad the finish is by the top right. In the spiral of freeze.

The messy part was a design choice. But, yeah if maps are meant to be clean that’s not gonna pass.

This is not release-able without vast amount of effort and time put into a rework. We'd advise you start over with a new map and take the experience you got from this. Please keep in mind that making a good map usually takes months.

its acceptable when its absolutely necesarry, but thes very very rare

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I see, cause I wanted the map to be designed around Insanity, chaos, pain, mentally insane tasks, and easily failable.

That’s what I went in for when making the map. I reworked the entire map once. The first design was worse.

Are any of these categories listed. A valid option for making a map?

if you can map it well, then it could work, but you should start with something simple

just try to make interesting and unique parts

How is the map

? Do those parts look interesting and unique?

I like to make maps around a specific theme. And not make maps with a little bit of everything. That’s fine for a map to be just based of a singular theme right?

Not a single mechanic, but a single theme.

1. its still extremly cramped. looking at new released maps you can see theres a lot of breathing space. and even if messiness is meant, its not pleasant to play

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zadrotos ahh map

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