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closed the skip + design fixes + last part fix

I'll do the optimization later.

move this unfreeze 1 block up so that the player can hook dummy more easily when looking to the pure left

moving dummy here is so awkward and uninteresting. make the part more organically

if doing part like this is the real path, it'll need to be changed. you can make this part more creatively

make the indicator so that the player can notice where to fall

also, player can skip the risky falling

add some blocks to make the part work with grenade. or, make the part so that player cant do the part with grenade

?

maybe it is cause by bad luck :/

lower the height to do the part more smoothly

for now, it is so annoying for flow

make the shield visible

I can change that, but I like that if you do it perfectly, then you and dummy will be on top, which gives the speedrunners an advantage.

meaningless toetap

entity bug

at start

i didnt play the whole map but it looks kinda short

is it really?

short faily map - default for 3 stars dummy

make easier setup for this throw

you can fail this part like this

skill issue

indicate teleport in a different way

So that's the pretty easy part.

meaningless enable hit tile for the disabled deepfly dummy map

in the current version deepflay is enabled

ok i see, maybe i tested that part with former version

I have no idea, how you would do that?

just make tele/totele tile

and making the connection for two will be cool

logo is too bright compared to the map i think

missing disable hit

add freeze here

it'll be cool if there are kill tiles for hook and ht

add freeze here for consistency

for now it is hard to distinguish between normal special tiles and special tiles + freeze

indicate enable hit properly

for now seems like this

i think it is worth release 🙂 keep going

actually this part can be conducted without grenade

I'm thinking about replacing or removing a part with 3ple rocket

suggesting for arranging stopper mark, but it is up to you. if you like this disorganized style, you dont need to change

ht is not transparent enough i think

if u draw it it doesn't mean it's working btw

its actually working btw

show then

😈

ok

flow here is lame all the speed goes nowhere, u should make it sswing

cool part but stopper looks not needed

jao's hairy kebab as always has great assets

i think something should be added to make the path narrower for last hook, or raise the endless, me and another person had this problem

rly nice flow in this part though it's a bit failier but feels like finale

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1484875401548398654/1484904433639886888 https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1484875401548398654/1484906458234622076 Happened to me on the first attempt as well.

I think that would be good. The fall is quite far because of the height needed to get up with triple and the triple itself isn't that exciting either.

You already got some good feedback, I'll just add a few things I found. :)

1. This area felt a bit empty to me. I think you could add something here, perhaps a drag of some sort?
2. If you remove the freeze or replace the first kill with freeze it would allow to safely walk in instead of jumping which I think is more convenient.
3. I would rework this part to work without deepfly. I don't like maps where it's just once randomly introduced in a map. :/ Feels out of place and you are usually not aware that it's enabled in the first place, especially if it's only for the last part.

Skip: Not sure how useful it is but it's an easy fix. 😄

cool part

Move

to detail please.

I think you can also safely resize the logo to at least half of it's current size.

I tried a bit around and there also isn't that much of a difference on a quarter of the current resolution. Chose the lowest that's fine for you - if you need help with resizing I can send you the one(s) I used.

Thanks for the test, I'm working on fixes now and I think the map will get even better.

W name

• rework of most of the parts that were mentioned during testing
• deepfly is disabled(because the last part doesn't need a hammer anymore)

logo and optimization later

Normal'no pokakal

In my opinion it is an inappropriate map name, It feels weird to see this name as a DDNet map

For non-rus speakers:

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What? What do you mean that's not the name of a bird? 😭 😭

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-cry-frieren-beyond-journey%27s-end-sousou-no-frieren-anime-elf-gif-439863309920468642

Meanwhile "Shitfly" and "Fucktastic":

я покакал

I think we have worse though, no?

It literally means

in Russian and sounds childish for a public map.

isn't really a good reason to add another bad one. But if testers are fine with the name, I guess there's nothing more to discuss.

they are old though no?

i havent seen a map name like pooped in latest map releases atleast

turboSeks

Are we fr censoring "pooped" now? Childish - maybe I can see it, but so what?

but so what? dont forget that we had an invasion of russian children

like what you mean its straight up inapropriate

its like naming your cat shitstain

which some ppl do

but still

you dont do that

🤣

They wont leave clb for the dummy map

they dont play clb in the first place

People do know that pooped also means exhausted/tired right?

???

A really good map with interesting gameplay

"Niggodrag"

btw that was an interesting experiment with the name of the map, I'll have to try to repeat it "ghbdtn"

entity bugs

It's a very awkward and unpleasant place. I think a couple of blocks could be added to make it less random

It's quite an unpleasant moment, it's very inconvenient to get up on the edge at full speed

I think it's possible to make the space between the ceiling and the part smaller, so that it would be more convenient to setup the part(but that's just a matter of preference)

I don't really understand why there's this unfreeze here (and it's not marked in the design)

If you don't get on the edge and fall, you can back

I don't think this part really fits into the map, it's very easy compared to the rest of the map and it's not a faily

I think it's better to remove this kill so that the part becomes better (but that's my preference)

This ht is easy to skip and go through without it

I think that here you have to drag the dummy unnecessarily far, because of this the part is very inconveniently to do

I don't understand why these stoppers are needed, they can be simply removed

On this part you can easily fly over and crash into kills, it is better to remove 1-2 kills on the right

It seems to me that the background blends in with the color of the blocks; I would like more contrast

This part is random, sometimes you crash into a wall and die, and sometimes you pass through without any problems (yes, there is a setup from the wall on the right, but still)

There are also kills that you can accidentally run into, for example these

entity bug

freeze inside kills

A very good setup, but very hard to guess (maybe it wasn't intended

)

100% work if go to the right wall then go left

ah

you already knew

i see

entity bug?

In my opinion, it's a pointless auto edge kill + the only one on the map

As far as I understand, there is no first time checkpoint on the map; the first one you encounter is the second time checkpoint

Overall the map is pretty good

overall map is good, but a bit short.

1 idk but when it touched this walls its weird , not smooth. 2 feel like need to remove the freeze on about two layers. If you have too much speed, you will be punished, which is bad.

and this part is too ez i think.

I don't want to repeat things like skips, etc. because it seems you already know about them. If they're still there in the next version, I'll mention them. gl

1. useless unfreeze
2. i'd suggest to remove freeze from wall (only leave for edge) otherwise it's pretty annoying
3. rather useless sign
4. i'd suggest to put dedicated spikes for hookthrough blocks 5,6. suggestion to avoid floating spikes

Really cool 1st part, the rest seems kind of unbalanced tho

• rework a zone with a rocket
• other minor changes mentioned by those who tested the map earlier
• new design by wee

📎 rewokk.mp4 (22.83 MB)

wtf

peak new design

wee goat

it barely works if you hook this block and i think it can be misleading for who playing this map

can do the part without these ht

skips

I agree with this point. There are many children playing DDNet, and for Russian-speaking players — of whom there are quite a lot — the name "Pokakal" would carry an inappropriate connotation. It's better to choose something that fits both the community standards and the feel of the map itself. Even though this was discussed about a month ago, I think it's worth bringing up again. I understand that there are already quite a few inappropriate map names out there — but that's not a reason to add another one.

Good map though.

For example? just interesting.

Imagine if he is forced to rename the map, and he will rename it to 'Nasral'

Read two messages above the one you replied to. ^^

There is a village in India named "Nasrali" btw

The fact that there's a village in India named 'Nasrali' doesn't change anything — 'Pokakal' is still an inappropriate name, especially for Russian speakers. In India 'Nasrali' doesn't sound the same way as it does for Russian speakers. And 6 people already agreed that the name should be changed.

I'm a native Russian speaker, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. It's like asking India to change the name of this village because someone thinks it's unacceptable. I understand your point, but it's so childish to get offended over a name that I just find it funny.

It's not about being offended — it's about keeping the game appropriate for all ages, including children. The village comparison doesn't change anything, it's a completely different context.

A child will see the name, laugh, and then forget about the map. And I don't see anything wrong with a child laughing at the name of a map in computer game. It's not about making the game suitable for all ages, let's be honest. You don't like the fact that the name offends your vision of the game, your vision of what names should be, or something like that, and everyone who is against the name of this map shares exactly the same opinion, and it's not about making the game "suitable even for children". For children, the word "poop" is an element of basic humor, not a serious insult or trauma.

First, the name says nothing about the map itself, it has no connection to the level at all. Second, you can't speak for every player and every child — what's just funny to one person might genuinely bother someone else. That's reason enough to keep map names appropriate.

If this argument doesn't matter that much, why not just listen to the players and change it? It takes five seconds to rename a map, and it would make the experience better for everyone. Simple as that.

I believe a map's name doesn't necessarily reflect its contents, and there's no rule stating otherwise. I bothered about a lot of things on DDNet, but no one is rushing to change anything to please me, so why should the opinions of some lead to changing a "such an evil and terrible" name, while others' opinions about its harmlessness are completely ignored in your vision?

I didn't mention that changing the title of the map "doesn't matter that much". If he changes the title of the map, it would mean he can't express himself as an author. And I think that's a bad thing in such a harmless context.

https://giphy.com/gifs/reactiongifs-tyqcJoNjNv0Fq

There may be no written rule, but there are community standards and the majority of people who saw this, including several moderators, agree the name should be changed. It's not just my personal opinion. Author's self-expression is valid, but not when the community as a whole finds it inappropriate.

i think maps name should be changed to "took a shit" or "pooped" so non russian speakers can also see the mappers idea

"but not when the community as a whole finds it inappropriate" so I can't speak for all the children, but you can speak for all the community itself?

also i wonder at what point the maps name becomes inappropriate

funny to read how the guy with nicknames as "killme" and "abort me please" is defending the children from pokakal mapname

Sorry, I meant a big part of the community, judging by the reaction to my message

The perfectly valid argument used previously by 0x314: "The fact that we have a bad names is not a reason to add one" is perfectly valid, and I won't argue with it, but let's compare what we're arguing about. Shitfly and Fucktastic contain direct, overt English swearing, which Russian-speaking children certainly know and can easily read. Turbosex is a frankly adult topic. Niggodrag is on the edge of harsh racist insults (the N-word). Launching a crusade against harmless toilet humor seems like selective morality ngl

So if we're changing this name, let's change the much worse ones too, so the game is suitable for all ages. Or is it not working for the old maps and children that u protecting will ignore it and never know?

Fair point, those names are objectively worse. But 'those are worse' doesn't mean this one is fine — it just means there are more problems to fix. It's a shame those weren't fixed back then, and at this point there's probably nothing that can be done about them. But that's exactly why it makes sense to at least fix this one now. And just to be clear — I'm not arguing against you personally, I just want to keep the community cleaner in terms of map names. The more names like this exist, the less pleasant it is to see them in the game, in my opinion.

I agree with that one, if it's possible it would be better to change them ,in my opinion

Honestly, if that's your position then we're actually on the same side here. I agree those names should be changed too. So let's not argue against each other, but push for cleaning up all the inappropriate map names, including this one and the worse ones you mentioned.

The fact that such names have been around for years and I personally don't know anyone who's been offended imo shows that someone just attach too much importance to names. Personally, I believe that direct or veiled insults to individuals, races, and genders, as well as the direct use of swear words, are unacceptable. Anything else that doesn't harm anyone is just preference. As everyone knows, you can be offended by anything if you attach a special, sacred meaning to it. Overall, I wouldn't change the name of this map and believe me, I love and cherish this game and community as much as you do.

Overall, I don't think this argument will end in either side's favor. Yes, I agree that those other names should be changed — but so should this one. I think it's time to stop arguing here since we won't reach a common ground. I enjoyed hearing your point of view and it was genuinely nice talking to you. Let's leave it to the players , based on the message from 0x314 and mine, the reactions and replies will show what the community actually wants.

if we were talking about the name "TookAFatShit" I could be on your side but isnt pokakal also a childish term that kids hear from their parents anyway?

This whole name thing should prob be decided by admins since it’s their game and if they find it inappropriate they can tell them to change it both sides have arguments its just gonna be a back and forth same as the ai on maps

Stop guys, I'm Brazilian and I didn't find that word offensive.

Tested with mapper in-game

• closed the skips
• some parts have been rework (videos)
• fixed design bugs

i'm pretty sure freeze needed here instead of kill

everything is working stably

well, ok if you want to leave a troll fail

Any arguments?

for me its not about troll, its more about bad mapping cus its bad move cus dont fit the map.imho

Chill, this is just a hole to get dummy, not a full part.

arguments for what, if you want player to die in a stupid way, feel free to leave it

I've shown you that it works stably if you do everything right. How do you die if you do everything right? There is no randomness in this

rocket jump is not good enough or you go too much to right

I think better rework this move, with notice what Doshik mention, and add something to make it harder. but if u dont wanna change it at all its fine. cus not big deal.

If a player can't make a default rocket jump, maybe it's not worth playing dummy 3 star map?

I don't think anything needs to be changed in that place, since this is the end of the part

• sv_deepfly 0
• design bug

• small rework last part
• design bugs

It's a good map for me

the name ...

Why are some people so sensitive about names? 😭

the name is disgusting

Any problem? The creator wanted that name and decided to name it that way.

😡

I didn't follow the discussion above word by word but isn't it in your interest to change the map name after seeing that it seems to be controversial?

As for me, the name is ok, it's funny for the most part for a Russian audience and the name doesn't contain anything offensive.

I wouldn't like to tell people that I speedran pokakal

why? its funny

It's nothing fun but awkward

for you and for some people, but not for others.

if i write the word "dick" on the wall, it will be funny for some people

Why this map name? Because for many players the name raises questions. I understand you want to express your individuality, but I don't see why changing it would be a problem. You can clearly come up with something better that actually fits the map.

The map is good, it would be a shame if it will have such a name

fully agree

Only true fans will play his map; ignorant people will skip it. Maybe he wants to express how the world is today, but nobody understands him because the map is also art, and art is expression

rename map for "Nixus" pls

You can't be serious

What does pokakal mean?

Took a shit/pooped

🤣

https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/1484875401548398654/1485681550212333771

idk, it's not a prejudiced statement, it shouldn't offend anyone, no minority. I thought "Pokakal" really suited the map's name.

Pokakal reminds me of a bird from Bloons td 6 O.o

this is also a soft form of the word pooped, if the goal was to insult someone, he would use "nasral"

If there's a name called "weed" then I think there might be a map called "Pokakal"

I never thought I would defend the word pooped in any context lol

https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/1484875401548398654/1485982634038399016

Pokakal situation on ddnet is crazy

I had an idea

change name for "Nixus"

beatiful name

I will call my next map "Nixus eats shit" to express myself

nah that was rude dude

Is there a problem with me eating?

it's healthy

ye, this too

this is the kind of crap that I would have seen somewhere on the internet, laughed at, and kept scrolling, but someone was so offended by it that there was more talk about it than about the map itself

Well, poop is also a type of art, but I don't want to go into detail about it :/

We are talking about an inappropriate map name and everyone who read the message by 0x314 should understand why it should be changed. We are just saying the same thing in different ways. Do you guys really want to see this map name in the game? If I were the mapper, I would change it — not because I personally want to, but because of the community. There are more people who said it should be changed, including moderators and testers.

Well, only the map owner can decide the map's name

Why should this be discussed more? Testers and moderators have already said the name should be changed. But honestly, even if everyone agrees, the mapper keeps arguing — so I don't think anything will change no matter how many people say it. It'll just be endless arguments about the same thing. I don't have any more arguments to add — the discussion has basically run its course. I just hope that testers and those with more respected roles (since the mapper doesn't seem to respond to us) will bring this up again. And from the mapper's side, I hope he comes up with a better name so the map isn't stuck with such an unfortunate name in my opinion.

We created a poll in the testers' chat, and 60% of the testers agreed to keep the map name.

Send a link to the message

in tester chat

u r not a tester, relax, kid

thanks

too many messages for such a little thing as map's name

if u r too offended - go outside with some poster idk

set up a single picket

So why don't you want a map whose only meaningful name is "shit" to be released? Does it offend any minority? Does it offend anyone? If a child sees it, they'll just laugh and move on, nobody will really care. You just want the game to be more family-friendly than it already is.

pokakal sounds like a kind of shitfly(shit), only in Russian. Are you racists?

me?

;-;

no

Nixus is even agreed to eat shit cuz it's healthy, so he's the only one who protects it

bro are you read the message by 0x314?

seems like u r the only one who didn't

bro seems u made a mistake by associating your nickname with this discussion

xdd

As I said before, I don't know what else I can write to make you understand. My arguments and the fact that many people simply don't want to see this map name in the game is already a big argument on its own. But if you still think the opposite, I honestly don't know what more I can say

This is an important social issue

So why you think so?

U should just stop flooding with such a pity thing, anyways u r not the one who'll make the decision

Do you want to change the map's name?

This discussion about map's name was even before u came here to flood, u r not creating any additional meaning

I pay more attention to this and perhaps it will affect the outcome

At least I tried, rather than just leaving it like that

If you're going to change the name, translate it into Portuguese; I'm sure we'll laugh instead of being offended

U just cannot accept anything except of ur "truth". Even after Nixus said there were a poll and they asked testers

Okay guys, let's stop, this was supposed to be a chat to discuss the map, not the name, let's move this to

I can't leave this now because, like you said, I can't see the messages. So why should I trust someone like you?

It's one of testers who said to u it was a poll, if u don't trust the message he wrote in a chat where other testers can see he's lying idk, visit a doctor

I don't think so, as for me this is quite a big problem and it is worth discussing here, as long as we don't disturb the testers (I think they would have written if this were the case)

no bro, stop pls move to

😭

Stop flooding this chat ...

Nixus isn't a full-fledged tester yet. He's a trial tester, because, as far as I know, almost anyone who wants to help can become a trial tester

https://tenor.com/view/brain-damage-gif-25961554

I mean, Nixus and "REAL FULL-FLEDGED" testers have the same chat and same polls so..

Thank you, I knew you loved me deep down

Let's really stop this, especially from belittling or insulting anyone, which is what it's slowly becoming. If the majority of testers don't think the name is something that will end DDnet, then that's the way it is. If someone get offended by such a trivial thing – idk guys. I understand if Leonardo da Vinci called a painting "pooped" instead of "Mona Lisa," it would be strange, but these are just pixels in a game. I won't write anything more about this, sorry me for continuing it a little bit more.

This will be my last message and I don't intend to clutter this chat anymore, as you are right that it may get in the way of testers, and I apologize for that. I am against this map name and all my arguments are already written above. I am disappointed that not everyone agrees with changing the name and that not everyone finds it inappropriate for whatever reason. We discussed a lot here and I heard many different opinions. Some people find the name harmless and funny, others including moderators and testers agree it should be changed. The fact that more people reacted in favor of changing it speaks for itself. I hope the mapper reconsiders and comes up with a name that actually fits the map and makes the experience better for the whole community. Thanks to everyone who participated in this discussion. And I sincerely apologize to all the testers who I may have disturbed.

https://tenor.com/view/brain-damage-gif-25961554

Keep it friendly please.

It's a funny gif with cat, wdym

This discussion about map's name was even before u came here to flood, u r not creating any additional meaning

And you're not really bringing anything constructive here either, to be honest. At least this person tried to revisit the topic and change something. You're just trying to shut him down with weird suggestions about protests/pickets.

There is a village in India named "Nasrali" btw This is acually an absurd example btw: that's not really comparable. A real village name from another language isn't the same as intentionally naming a map after a poop joke.

pokakal sounds like a kind of shitfly(shit), only in Russian. Are you racists?

This has nothing to do with racism. The issue is that "pokakal" is intentionally a toilet joke name, not that it sounds Russian.

Well, only the map owner can decide the map's name

That is a really really bad argument. A mapper can call a map anything, but the release/testing process is there to filter out names that shouldn't be accepted officially. Doshik provided a good example why

I will call my next map "Nixus eats shit" to express myself

We created a poll in the testers' chat, and 60% of the testers agreed to keep the map name.

I think you're missing an important detail here: 4 people voting against it is still a significant part of the vote, not something that should just be ignored because the majority was slightly higher.

Also, I'm not even sure every tester who voted to keep the name was fully aware of the context or how the name sounds to Russian speakers. A quick poll alone doesn't necessarily settle the discussion.

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IMO the map cannot be released with this name, it's just inappropriate. Yes, we already have some bad/questionable map names, but that's a separate topic: existing mistakes are not a reason to normalize more of them.

And honestly, if a name immediately creates this much controversy and discussion, that's already a sign that maybe it's just not a good official name.

Also, changing the name now would cost basically nothing, while keeping it will probably keep causing pointless arguments and negative reactions later.

Does "pakakal" have the same meaning in the name?

I don't think you fully understood my point. Obviously not literally the exact same meaning, but it's still obviously associated with a childish toilet joke for Russian speakers. That's the whole point people are making.

I must have understood your point. I think it would be better to change the map's name by simply changing the vowels, because I'm sure Ybavawka thought it through when he gave the map that name. To me, that name suits the map well, but if you Russians think it's bad, then so be it :/

Honestly, it's probably time to establish actual naming guidelines for official maps. Because right now the process feels inconsistent and every controversial name just turns into subjective debates.

Then next time people could simply refer to the guidelines instead of having endless arguments like this again.

Yeah, I guess.

But simply changing the vowels doesn't really help, because then it just becomes the same toilet-joke word but with a grammatical mistake in it, which honestly sounds even worse.

pocacal? 😥

Well, I'm not Russian, so I clearly can't comment here. I'll leave it to you to discuss this further.

Thank you

no, that's gonna be worse xd

bro

Nixus then

beatiful name

5 letters infinite meanings

btw that's what I see as a Russian speaker when I read the word you wrote xd

damn tocakal?

Well, seems like the idea to move this rot to the meta-testing channel was completely ignored, unfortunately

I really don't understand why you take the name of the map so seriously in a game where the vast majority are children and where people come to have fun. I don't think that tons of text messages about the name contribute to testing the map, you can go to the meta-testing channel and discuss it, I don't want to change the name.

I would only change the name if it contained something offensive.

There's nothing stopping you from going to the town hall and creating a topic about it, but it should apply not only to future map names, but also to old ones like "Niggodrag", let them be changed too if most of the community doesn't like it.

The thing is that it doesnt matter if you want to change it or not

as a mapper (I explained it above, you dont control the testing process)

no thats separate topic

You've already been told that most of the testing team doesn't mind funny names, as long as it doesn't contain anything offensive, but you keep sending unnecessary messages in this channel.

there pls

100% necessary messages, since the map name is still inappropriate.

name, not the map

So map name is not part of the map?

The discussion is (very obviously) perfectly reasonable in this channel as it’s directly related to the map.

I don’t think that the name is funny and I think that we could keep at least some kind of intellectual baseline and professionalism.

But that’s just me, and we already feature maps like “casa der merde”, which translates to “house of shit”, so I can understand when people don’t really see this as crossing any line.

Subjectively I still think it’s tasteless nonetheless and that the map (especially with this design) really makes up space for a lot of unique and cool names.

prestory : once upon a time, this map reflected that I put very little effort into it, and the design was done in about 1 hour, so the name "pokakal" appeared, because it literally means that I made the map without trying. When wee made a new, really cool design, I started thinking that this map already meant something different to me and wanted to change the name.

I still do not agree that this name may offend someone or is not suitable for a funny game with running balls, and I am not changing the name because it somehow bothers me. I'm changing the name because that's how my soul responds.

Pokakal will return.

• new map name

from one garbage name to another

Bro, if you need help finding a name you can just ask I think people there are pretty kind and will help you

bro I'm more than happy with the names I give to my maps, don't worry

NO

NO

NO

67 IS PERFECT

https://tenor.com/view/67-67-kid-edit-analog-horror-phonk-gif-3349401281762803381

He will never reach the heights that you have reached with your map "52". He's really bad at choosing names, unlike you, that's true, let's bully him.

NO STOP 67 IS PERFECT

there's also a song at the start.

DAMN

I GO SEE NOWA

WAIT

DAMNNN

I LOVE YOU

I was offended by number 67, please change it. It is very difficult for me to imagine a mapname that does not carry any meaning, does not display the structure of the map, has no relation to what is built on the map, does not reflect my vision of your map, does not match my horoscope, these numbers are not my date of birth, these numbers are not connected in any way with my life, therefore, you, mapper, please change the name of your map, so that it will be easier for me to play 2D cooperative computer platformer game, because it will interfere with me finish my favorite maps in my favorite race 2d game.

Sorry but I still have no clue what does 52 mean, whole idea was in the number of single tile hookables on the map :/ I don't mind if map name is a number but not if it's related to some cancer meme or whatever

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY A CANCER MEME?

These guys confirmed the theory that if a person wants to be offended by something, he will find a reason.

I'm really bad at this map, change the map name to one that I don't have to complete out of obligation

Your commentary is obnoxious spam and doesn't serve any meaning

please stop existing

bruh the name 😭

I'm not offended, I'm disappointed

perfect, no?

please.

From bad to worse

I think a 5 year old might give better names

Well if this is your form of protest to valid arguments, it shows a lot

Well, if you don't understand that there might be another point of view, it shows a lot.

Well, it's cool that you came to insult me, rather than not writing anything or writing constructively testing the map.

Well, it's funny that you think about protesting when these arguments are not weighty for me, but only for you.

if numbers are worse for you than pooping, then I don't even know how to please you (although in general I'm not going to do that)

Acting oblivious isnt going to do anything, youve been ridiculing ppl who said things about your name choice

can't believe map names yield that much power - TiL While i respect the dedication to keep DDNet free from modern brainrot, this hurts the maps progress. I think its time to consult the council for this:

Honestly, it's probably time to establish actual naming guidelines for official maps. Because right now the process feels inconsistent and every controversial name just turns into subjective debates.

This is a game made for kids, having modern jokes as a map-name is not controversial, (not taking the previous name into Account).

If you want to discuss map-names in general i'd recommend asking the overall community over in

, yes its an active topic for this map but the last gameplay-related message was 100 messages ago, as a Tester this is painful to work with.

(and i for one really like the art

)

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1506886422584496129

From now on, only testing messages in this channel :)

huge design bug no corner design, decline

and there also

this

Hey i tested again ur map. here what i think. i still feel ur map unpolish. for example this i didnt notice this way until reach this point. Ye its only my problem but i did it(

1 or, for example, I didn't notice it immediately 2 and i got annoyed by this

or u can fail like this

so 90% of the problems are gone if u practice, but I still feel it's not smooth. For me, keeping problems just cus ppl will practice them is a bad way of mapping.

I want to change almost every part of it, except for that one because I think it’s mapped perfectly.

here im drop only what i think is important. 1 last swing i really dont like cus u can overfly and ur hook didnt reach to dummy 2 this hook, it's uncomfortable

I also fixed some design bugs. I have changed only what can be improved in my opinion, otherwise everything is ok for me, this is a 3 star dummy map and often on such maps players use practice first.

full playthrough

cool

3-4 star

i think 3

ye its fine to change only the important ones, i specially highlighted them. Other minor mentions are more for your next maps. Cuz visual clues are still helpful to have.

idk i dont like ur change cus speedups. when i tested yesterday i just did that: 1 removed speedups. (its visual clue where player understands he did part successfully, impossible to touch kills, hook from ground is more enjoyable) 2 just replace ht more up, i think its enough.

ur change is good, but u can still fail the map cus u overflew it, which i think is a bad fail

if u agree with that fail its okay, but i think failing here feels stupid cus u mapped it like u can use the whole area when its a lie

Overall, I liked the map except for the name and the area highlighted on the screen, because it will be easy to get to this area. Without practice, this part is very difficult.

if u do it like this u might break the part, so better just fill more freeze on top

20+20+20+7

You sure ?

aí é muito fácil professor é six seven

/block

https://tenor.com/view/67-six-seven-void-purple-skeleton-gif-11619761405114423038

bro the music im dying 😭😭😭😭😭

maybe make a way where udont need to hold jump because it can be annoying to setup

67/10

tune maybe?

or rework aprt

good map

?

67 not actually yet

😒

When frost

ok for me

https://klipy.com/gifs/67-bunny

six seven bro chill

good part

skip blue = dummy red = not dummy

removing credits from tilesets is not cool, please add them back

Harmony not have credita

Credits

You mean the harmony marks by bit?

skip is more difficult and deadly than the original path

they were deleted because I used patiga tool, I will add them in the final version.

You could add the credits of each mapres in the final room or smth. That would neatly credit the mapres authors and the twmap tool wouldn't remove it :)

Oh, it has credits, I didn't know that, the version I have doesn't have them.

on 1st screenshot imo it looked intuitive for me and i like the way :D but i agree that it could be changed somehow to make it more obvious.

Ybivanka scammed u bro

Ybivanochka