#Inspiration
"Inspiration" by Tristis [Moderate]
DDNet 06/20/2023 9:01 AM
@tristonic

this is your map's testing channel! Post map updates here and remember to follow our mapper rules: https://ddnet.org/rules

DDNet 06/20/2023 9:01 AM
b0mf 06/20/2023 9:47 AM

What was the inspiration for this map

murpi 06/20/2023 9:48 AM

$waiting

murpi 06/20/2023 9:48 AM

$reset

murpi 06/20/2023 9:49 AM
@learath2

Here, again. The bot didn't insert a newline between the map details and the mapper mention property

learath2 06/20/2023 9:50 AM

Yeah, that's the bug. Idk why, couldn't debug that part. I fixed the topics by hand last night hoping it was another issue

learath2 06/20/2023 9:51 AM

Maybe an api change, maybe python issue?

murpi 06/20/2023 9:52 AM

hard to tell since we also run on a new python version

learath2 06/20/2023 9:55 AM

Anyway, the code looks fine and I have no time to debug it. If you are up for it knock yourself out

learath2 06/20/2023 9:55 AM

Could also be a discord.py change

murpi 06/20/2023 9:55 AM

I'll investigate

coke1465 06/20/2023 11:12 AM

using of so much images is not good if its not optimized

coke1465 06/20/2023 11:12 AM

did u tested this map urself?

coke1465 06/20/2023 11:13 AM

already the first part is cheatable, both can go up way bcs u dont need rocket for the next part

coke1465 06/20/2023 11:16 AM

it doesnt fit the map if u explain each move but its no novice map

coke1465 06/20/2023 11:16 AM

use entities off only for important things

coke1465 06/20/2023 11:17 AM

whole deep part cheatable bcs both can go this way

coke1465 06/20/2023 11:19 AM

use cp tiles only when u need it/or to make the map more clean (but make sure u hit every cp even if u dont know there is a cp

coke1465 06/20/2023 11:22 AM

try to avoid such cp skips

coke1465 06/20/2023 11:26 AM

in solo parts u can set the totele on the ground

coke1465 06/20/2023 11:29 AM

deep again skippable

coke1465 06/20/2023 11:35 AM

part feels a bit useless bcs u can just do the same part like u want just with hookfly

coke1465 06/20/2023 12:21 PM

80% of the map is cheatable, its better to take a look at new modarte maps and just start a new one

coke1465 06/20/2023 12:22 PM

$decline

tristonic 06/20/2023 6:07 PM

waw

tristonic 06/20/2023 6:09 PM

how can both go this way? xd

tristonic 06/20/2023 6:10 PM

most of these issues can be fixed so not sure why decline

tristonic 06/20/2023 6:11 PM

but it was expected. i swear i will never understand testers standards, so confusing

coke1465 06/20/2023 6:18 PM

just wait on edge and mate goes in

tristonic 06/20/2023 6:23 PM

ah ty

tristonic 06/20/2023 6:23 PM

so if all these issues were fixed, it would still be eligible?

coke1465 06/20/2023 6:27 PM

no better start a new map, parts looking very basic

coke1465 06/20/2023 6:27 PM

sry forgot to say that

tristonic 06/20/2023 6:28 PM

np and ty

tristonic 06/20/2023 6:28 PM

i guess un-creativity runs in my blood

tristonic 06/20/2023 6:28 PM

tried my best to be creative with this one, guess its still pretty stale huh

coke1465 06/20/2023 6:28 PM

maybe look at the newest moderate maps

coke1465 06/20/2023 6:29 PM

or the other moderate maps in testing (powerless)

tristonic 06/20/2023 6:31 PM

ive made lots of maps, but they are consistently 'basic' or 'uncreative' according to the testers

tristonic 06/20/2023 6:31 PM

maybe mapping isnt for me idk

coke1465 06/20/2023 6:31 PM

🤷‍♂️

tristonic 06/20/2023 6:36 PM

at least my design isnt dogwater

tristonic 06/20/2023 6:36 PM

(i think)

vertezzo 06/20/2023 6:41 PM

same problem (design good but map unvreative :()

tristonic 06/20/2023 6:45 PM
tristonic 06/20/2023 6:45 PM

pro mappers should be paid

tristonic 06/20/2023 6:45 PM

i almost got carpal tunnel making this map

tristonic 06/20/2023 6:46 PM

not worth a decline tbh 🥱

vertezzo 06/20/2023 6:49 PM

Yep

vertezzo 06/20/2023 6:49 PM

Sad

welshi 06/20/2023 6:53 PM

just played the map

welshi 06/20/2023 6:53 PM

or well, stopped at one point and really just looked at it cause I got shit to do

welshi 06/20/2023 6:55 PM

you're assuming that with uncreative coke's saying that your parts are bland, but I'm pretty sure that's not what he's implying

welshi 06/20/2023 6:55 PM

various parts here just look and feel like buffed parts of other popular maps

welshi 06/20/2023 6:55 PM

examples include

welshi 06/20/2023 6:59 PM
welshi 06/20/2023 7:00 PM

this is not to say the way you changed them are bad, I'm actually a big fan of 2 of these, but it doesn't feel particularly you

welshi 06/20/2023 7:00 PM

following this the map is full of empty space

welshi 06/20/2023 7:00 PM

examples

welshi 06/20/2023 7:02 PM
welshi 06/20/2023 7:02 PM

you also have a lot of repetition of parts

welshi 06/20/2023 7:02 PM

dummy drags examples

welshi 06/20/2023 7:04 PM
welshi 06/20/2023 7:05 PM

this one funky part (which is cool and creative just is weird to see it the second time)

welshi 06/20/2023 7:05 PM
welshi 06/20/2023 7:05 PM

this fly trick

welshi 06/20/2023 7:07 PM
welshi 06/20/2023 7:07 PM

and I could go on

welshi 06/20/2023 7:07 PM

I like the map, I feel like a few of its parts are really cool

welshi 06/20/2023 7:07 PM

but it feels long and winded out as well as repetitive

welshi 06/20/2023 7:07 PM

which gives it that uncreative feel

welshi 06/20/2023 7:07 PM

at least that's my opinion

tristonic 06/20/2023 9:54 PM

wow thats a lot of feedback, thanks i understand what you are saying and i will heed to your critique going forward

tristonic 06/20/2023 9:54 PM

ty fam

welshi 06/20/2023 11:10 PM

yeah ofc!

welshi 06/20/2023 11:10 PM

glad it helped

tristonic 06/21/2023 3:49 AM
tux314 06/27/2023 12:38 PM

can see a lot of work and thought went into the map but yeah there are skips everywhere, some bad parts and design flaws. yet I had fun playing it and I believe a rework is still possible. up to you ofc and sometimes it's better to start over but idk, map's not too bad 👍

tristonic 06/28/2023 1:44 AM

ok cool

tristonic 06/28/2023 4:59 PM

$released