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LETS GOOOOO

this map is so pog

I didn't think u would submit it yet?

why wouldnt i ?

o i thought u were still adding to it

did you change it so that player deceleration is faster?

sorry I'm still on vacation so can't rly test again

nah movement is normal

ok

moved start lower

start lower was a dumb idea.. its fixed now

Boop

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it works again

yay

did u make the dummy box with design and cleaner shape

methinks it is requirement for approval.......... ehehehehahhahahahehehrh

no ._. and i dont think its needed :)

I don't like that my fps going down to 80 here

cant u make the bullet room way smaller?

true, it should probably just cover zoom 10 but not bigger

what is the maximum amount of points ?

i mean the maximum record

u mean which you can get ? 0 ofc the best so far 12:36:xx

nah i mean how many time i have to avoid bullets to have the max record

i could make the room smaller yes but i dont want to be in a small room and feel caged if that make sense and i dont think 80fps is that bad it still should be smooth

also with small room u cant unzoom + dyncam

to get good conditions

idk i have on normal maps 1k + with design

uhm no idea you lose 10 seconds every mhh 1.5 seconds i didnt bother to perfect that system and you start with almost 13 hours so alot ?

80 feels laggy für me

ye it plays better with zoom good point

are you sure it isnt only the first 3 seconds that are laggy because the bullets are turned off ?

maybe add some bullets coming from bottom (just a few)

so the inevitable bottom part could be usefull

cant really do that because they would be in a certain spot so they dont colide with the weapon tele from the other side

also i want everything coming from the top :o

idk i bring ideas maybe bad ideas maybe good ideas just roll the dice

what ?

i just prevent u that i maybe say bull$hit (<= actually 0 maps released)

ah ok dont worry still nice that you try to think about it

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thinking is always good

it's overrated

just in case someone wants to use this idea: It's possible with this setup

lmao

after playing the map some more i think most things are fine. the only thing now is the fps issue + is it too easy / too hard

things that are not entirely map breaking changes

if we want to reduce the number of bullets, the height of the play area will have to be reduced. there's not much we can do about that

i only really play at 1 or 2 zoom levels away from default anyway, i dont need to see anywhere close to the weapon tp

and as for the bottom, i really think it's fine if you can see the bottom and there's transparent design layer that can fade the bullets as they teleport a bit

but i understand the aesthetic of never seeing when the bullets TP / where they come out

an easy way to reduce the number of bullets maybe is playing with the width a bit?

like 3-4 tiles narrower?

not enough where it would affect play but just enough where it could help with some of the lag

i have a good pc and i get 240 fps, which is not a good sign since i know many people have worse specs than me

yeah i have on other 'normal' maps 1000fps+

on this map between 80 and 60

i think if the height is reduced a bit and some width is taken down it would be less laggy

it will always be laggy with so many bullets though, just kinda part of the map

i personally think it can be a bit easy once you zoom out a bit and plan a route 12 tiles ahead, but we should find a balance of "possible to get a low time" vs "hard to get any good time"

i lean more towards "hard to get any good time" and just make the total time added at start less

and then ofc make the map harder

since playing the map for several minutes straight can get boring

OR just make the amount dummy reduces time by greater

idk how to improve this, its bullet spam

xd

i still think it's possible to vary the bullet densities in different patterns with randomized tp where some tiles are weighted so they are more / less common to be selected

but when people with bad pc say it's not laggy i don't know exactly what the problem is....

which might make the gameplay less random but have specific "areas" where a certain movement is needed

it's definitely a cpu-bound issue

what kind of cpu do you have?

AMD FX 8300

eight core 3.3ghz

mm weird

it should be fine

mine is 5.0 6 core

it could also MAYBE be memory but that would be weird

i dont think a single bullet would take much memory

8Gb

maybe that is more related then

grapic card = geforce gtx 1050 ti

has anyone else said they lagged or got low fps?

we should find out their specs too

16gb, gtx 1660

i don't have a very good pc, but every map in teeworlds should run without juddering

never asked others ingame about it xd

well if anyone has tested, check fps in game and report if it is lower than 300

i have a 3060ti and ryzen 5 5600x and hit 280 at one point xd+

nothing else running in the background besides league launcher and discord

oof

has a map ever been rejected solely on the basis of fps issues?

if everything else is fine then i dont see a problem, but it would be nice to fix

is there a reason the final setup column for bullets is only partially filled in? did u previously try it with a full column and it was too hard?

im wondering if it would be more fun with just more bullets

uhm nice good job i wont use it tho

yes it was even less before and for me this amount of bullets was ok didnt like it much harder

i could change the widht a little bit like u said but yes that wouldnt help much after all and i dislike a very very tiny room

yeah i dont think it should be too small either

there should be at least one part of the room (the center) where you see no walls

how did the map buckle up run for you ? isnt it there way more spamm of grenade should be laggy too.. isnt excuse for my map ofc just wanna know

i think tho with that map the grenades despawn quickly, but in this map the bullet entities are always loaded

that would still cause lag though

can u add all the bullets to the last column for me to test when im not working

im really curious how hard it is

i really want to see a bunch of walls of bullets where you're forced to go left or right

yes its laggy when i can see others shooting

when i disable /showothers its working good

so i think if that map was approved there is no reason this map should get declined only based on lag

we should move on to talk about other stuffs for now

yes but its not normal that ppl with bad pc have no lag here xD

i know, it's weird

im also wondering if you could make the density random by having some of the bullets go back to the starting area where they're recycled again to the main area

and with that you could add more bullets without changing the difficulty much

yes the placements of the bullets is random, but not the density :D

i think that really is what makes it interesting, is changing the density randomly

from my point of view, u should map it without force unlock. if u want to go for better time, u always have to rejoin team

the reason sorah did this is so that only your main tee gets the time, just like a normal dummy map

but since it's a Fun map maybe we shouldn't care about this

if you want to go for a better time you can kill before the unlock even happens you have 5 seconds to kill after you get hit by a bullet

i didnt look at the mechanic of time calculating but isnt it possible to calculate a time wich is close to real one ? dont know if negative timing can be saved so far. guess u would added it, if its possible tho

if you mean that the timer doesnt jump around in theory yes if i ever find the correct speed which the dummy has to move but i stil think it would be still of by 0.0001 seconds so never 100% perfect so i didnt care about it

yeah i was interested in that too

there might be a speedup speed that's consistent with some number of seconds but it would be pretty unlikely

I like to spice it up!

ohhhhhhhhhh god yes

this is super neat

but you would need many more bullets to make it as difficult lol

fps problems in entities only too ? maybe its the weird background that makes problems turn off hd

Is the server set to solo or are there any solo tiles ?

cant be set to solo, the dummy is what decreases time

Then i dont know haha

tuxnonik nice ! It would be cool if you could increase difficulty after example 20 seconds then again and after finish or somethink .

O-O when did u added that

i didnt, tux did

why do i get pinged but dont see anything

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what do u think about this ?

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/838828486260031549/839965766957662250

could also set that the reload is long

so u can do it only often not always

nothing

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dangg I get 60 fps all the time

my pc is bad with usually getting 150 fps on maps with hd turned off, with hd on i didnt get much lag on this map

have you tried to fullscreen and changing resolution lower ?

i play fullscreen with lowest resolutiion lmao

good map when rls

yesterday

changed the background into 1 layer

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