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thx to klexmikrowelle ❤️

$ready 5

just rename to memento mori 2

holy crap thats fast, already a playthrough

cool to see

finally a cool map by starkiller

same bs as memento mori, i dont think we need one more

looks cool map

grenade part looks cool af

bug at 4:50 in the video

part at 2:02 in video looks gay and crappy

why cant you look aside from killtiles, you could make a hard map without them too

99% of kill tiles in this map doesnt matter and are just there to look scary

rls

yoooo this map sick

i only have one unfinished 5 star solo and its Exanimus 1 aka memento mori after 1 year this map will have 1 n9 and 1 Cor finish and nobody else will ever want to play this i dont see why it should be released if the creater cant even finish it himself

200 iq play

cool map

so u would say rlsing adre 4,5 grim reaper and heartcore 2 is bad since the mapper didnt finish their own map?

they didnt post 5 grim reapers

u have posted the same dummy map 30 times lol

but they are reasonably hard/easy

idc about multiplayer maps

finally a map for the xD franchise, I loved this map

yes and if a map is too hard for you casual it shouldnt be rls...why ever no matter the parts are good or bad just flame hard maps

everybody knows why you make these maps. and its not because you enjoy them so much or want to give something to the community

the maps are either annoying or you ignore them. thats it

only reason u flame the map is cuz its hard. decline maps cuz they are hard is the most stupid reason ever. in a few years this map will be easy for more players

good map

its good to have challenging maps

youre putting words in my mouth

you could make really good maps. just use the tele layer. specially on ur latest dummymap.

lol i make these maps cuz i like it to make challenges. i love you guys. if i blame a insane map everyone says "u just dont want hard maps rlsd to get more points" when i make a hard map "u are just making them to annoy others"

and its a shame those parts will only be played by 3 people ever

pls corneum just shut up if u didnt test the map or say smth helpfull

it's just not stupid if for novice maps xd

so let the 3 ppl have fun with it

whats your problem?

but is cool solo map

i liked

you are too bad for this map so let ppl judge it with enough skill

xd

u dont need to play it

u cant finish it Starkiller

so pls stop talking

if a map is well mapped why wouldnt we release it? I dont think it matters if only 3 people could finish it atm

i never planned to play any of your hard maps. i know i dont need to play them. youre projecting yourself on me. bcs ur the biggest tryhard of ddnet. you want to stay the only player who finsihed all ddnet maps at one point so you shit out this crap

ol i make these maps cuz i like it to make challenges. i love you guys. if i blame a insane map everyone says "u just dont want hard maps rlsd to get more points" when i make a hard map "u are just making them to annoy others"

stop beeing mad pls

but its nice i can repost the thing ive said 2 mins ago

and now stop talking if u dont say smth helpfull

vs

who win?

i dont want any useless discussion in my channels. i want feedback and not just flame

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good freeze design

i just loaded the testmap link and my pc almost crashed

wth

why does it have to be so faily tho? just make the same map with 80% more tele tiles and the parts stay completely the same with the difference that more people will play it the parts do seem very nice

if this gets released, then it would give 20 points, and Aequilibrium gives 15. teeworlds logic

solo ratings suck

no. did u even test the map? if yes ud notice its much less faily than memento mori. if smth is unbalanced faily post a screen and tell me

why we talk about right now , who knows how future will turn out ?

everything looks cool

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exactly. when ghoul was rls it was unfinished for like 2 years and the hardest map ever. now it has like 20-30 finishes. in a few years this will be also more easy. and currently there are some ppl who could finish this

so why did we rls maps which were impossible when they were rlsd. and dont rls maps which are possible for ppl right now

i looked video run , very cool ideas ! amazing map ! $creativity 1

also unfreeze true 1 freeze layer , now it's normal to put in map , even i don't like it because i don't know how to do it .

you told the truth

Nah , maybe it's true , but he likes to play hard , thats why he made hard maps . In osu game harder map , more enjoy to play , if you can . I love hard maps there even i can't do them , for him probably is same harder map more enjoy .

i love one maker in osu he made so cool maps and i also love your maps more then

maps , just because i can complete your map it's diffuculty is around what i can beat ...

great map, rls

From gsmeplsy video i liked map, except some edges way too faily to get on, and laser part where u need to save dj from freeze is almost impossible for people with ping <10 if map is good i dont see why it shouldnt be released only because its faily (except if its inhumanly faily and this map is not)

if u want u can show me the spots u would change ingame (and maybe tell me how to make them better)

ok

ill fllw

some fixes. thx to vendetta and kicker

and don't make insane 10* unfinishable maps

all of my maps are finished

yes

there was a time we had like 5 UNFNISHED maps rlsd

so where the problem

don't argue with me

same as with corneum: say smth helpfull or dont say smth

because it wasn't that serious

and you feel so atacked

yes

since im bullied from ppl like corneum with things like this

ok I leave this map then, testing something else

and thats fucking annoying over time

im sorry if it was just a joke from u. but cant know that xd

but better look in editor find and fix what's wrong

yes im going to. thx

bg should be bigger as i can see the gray line below

I think it's bad that you are attracted to the laser this way. Either you need to increase the button time by a couple of seconds or add a marker that you need to do part faster

I really don't like that you made similar pretty easy fillers there. If I were you, I would change one to something original

And finally this edge. Making the part so random on 80% of the map can discourage many players from trying to finish it

that's all point xD

not rlly. ill increase the switch 1-2 sec so this wont happen. well true they are similiar but in a 2p 99% fillers are hh/hf. and i dont think its worth to make filler parts more creative. fillers should be basic so u dont have to learn special things to do them. last edge is not harder than other stuff. already tested with kicker and vendetta and they agreed. dont think ill ever change this edge

ty

that was fast

have notification for this channel enable

xd

lmao

these two layers are not used as far as I can see

mark this solid freeze

$ready 5

looking forward to this rls

so i can play it in practice

kill tiles kinda make practice mode pointless

ya

well yea. i liked it as deko tiles. but since practice mod my following maps will not have as many kills like here (except for gameplay or spots u will never reach like in memoria). gameplay from this map was done since beginning of 2019. long time before practice

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can't wait to play this with rcon

seems rly fun!

its not very funny unless you actually do it

ok 😏

why is my map named "examinus" in real servers xd

😂 😂 😂

it’s fine

pay $5 to unlock capital letters

sorry

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dear testers why did u think this map was worth releasing in its unnerfed state? lets look at it objectively: the parts themselves are good. i played through all of them on the test server, nice ideas, creative use of weapons, my favourite one is cp 9 because of the nice flow. even the faily parts by themselves are not that bad. some risky freeze edge jumps here and there and ofc starkiller kill tile edges

now the downsides: if anyone seriously wants to finish this map, they'd have to grind out each and every part on their private server for , lets say, around 24 hours i guess. you cant do the testing on ddnet servers, because /practice currently doesnt work well enough with kill tiles. then they will probably spend much more hours to do all faily parts consecutively without failing. maybe even more, but i cant say for sure ofc because i wont be trying. if you are a very good player, you will maybe take less time.

there was a reason that this map wasnt on any servers like 2 hours after release. people played it, maybe did cp1 and failed the unreasonably hard shotgun solo afterwards and quit. so basically we can say, this map was released and nobody played it.

if you grind out all maps and all points, which probably like 10 to 20 player seriously try to do, they might attempt this grind if they are determined enough. but 90% of that time will not be spent on ddnet servers but on a private server. but if we are honest, only like 2-3 people will even attempt it.

in conclusion i dont really see the point of releasing it in its current state. many good parts that no one will ever play (i doubt many players will set up their own server just to practice this). in my opinion the unfaily/slightly faily parts, that use tele, themselves are hard enough to justfiy a 5 star rating, even if you were to remove all teleless faily parts. and this hypothetical, only slightly faily, map would probably be even fun to play, because the parts are challenging without resetting you to square one after a slight mistake. just my two cents, i like the parts but not the map, hence why i was curious why it was released, thank you

i was surprised too, i wouldn't have given the map a chance because all the testing is too much work considering only 5 people will even touch it, so i don't bother with these maps anymore xd im sure mapper will join in with u too bad or something we already now

didnt read your text

map is creative and good mapped

enough reason for rls

now stop spaming this channel

I agree that stupidly hard maps shouldn't be released, we should have had a more thorough discussion about this one

i kinda agree i think having some really hard map is a cool thing but there shouldn't be too many , starkiller uploads one every other week or what

"Good mapped", I won't go that far

u rlsd grim reaper rofl

nice flame after rls

wugza was 80% after 1 day

but yea ofc this map is "too hard"

grim reaper was unfinished for 1 year

tatooine 2 was unfinished like 3 years

this map is easier than memento mori. everyone who can rate it agreed with me. all of u are too bad to judge hard maps. so stop annyiong me

i never made a map harder than memento mori. so theres no fucking reason to blame my hard maps since memento mori has 3 finishes as the hardest map of all time

3 people had fun I guess

yea. same as with grim reaper. 3 people had fun. so thats enough

it was just for finish not for fun i guess

0 people were harmed

like your maps?

i have to say something about that?

no just stop talking to me

or say to smth in this channel

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we know u are just here to blame me cuz u dont like me

im here to agree with lwai

great. its already rlsd so he should post his opinion before rls and not after

so its useless to post his opinion here

and i wont change anything in this map

also wugza will have finish in a few days for sure. so its not "unfair hard"

u should still read the text, im not trashtalking ur map lol

maybe you are not. but why should i?

also its released and i was just asking the testers so why do u care

he doesn't need to read it, he already knows you're too bad

:( the sg part kills me everytime

ik lwai will be able to finish this. and if not its not my problem tbh. he had 3-4 months to post his opinion before it was rlsd

now i wont change anything

its not my fault if ppl post their suggestion after rls and not before

i posted my opinion earlier but it got ignored

yea. u said "make it less faily"

nice opinion

thx

if u had post the whole text u posted today before rls i probably changed the things

but not after

thx²

never asked you to change anything tho, was just curious why it got released but as 3 testers were wondering the same i got my answer so its ok now

its a good map. thats why

i propose the same thing that happened with the map nightmare on ddmax. give it one year and if nobody finishes it delete it again

or make it saver in this case

this map will be finished after 1 week

i doubt it but if someone manages it then ofc it can stay released

wugza already got 80% today. dont see why he shouldnt be able to finish this soon

$released

4 months no?

idk. but other maps like ghoul/tatooine 2 etc were unfinished for years

Lets assume we wouldnt release exanimus and every other map thats gonna be submitted, which is is similar hard or even harder in the future. First point that gets in my head is that that would be a missing challenge to the best players. We would simply loose them, since theres no more reason to play if u finished all maps and just have to complete maps which are way to easy for u. Second is, the skill level of each player is rising individualy. That means, over time more players will get to the point of missing challenge. Now Exanimus is released and ppl are complaining that it is to hard. To me that is only conditionally an issue, because the by lwai described fact that the map could scare off players doesnt count since for all exept 3 ppl there is other maps that scare them of. The compromise that i can suggest is to release new maps which are harder than the others only if they are a small step harder than the others, so the difficulty of new maps rises evenly with the skill level of the players who are by time of releasing playing it. In this case i can only confirm exanimus as a legit map whichs difficulty is on the level of the players who play it by now since one of them mapped it. Complaining that it is to hard doenst count since one can play the maps that he want. No need to play exanimus if u aint skilled enough

Maps like ghoul or tatooine my have been really to hard at point of release. The gap between needed skill and best players actual skill was to big. But in exanimus case, which is expected to be finished in a week i dont think thats the case. Needed skill of exanimus is evenly with best players skill.

Why also wouldnt they have the right to map maps which are hard to play but just not impossible to them?

To me its also just logical that the best player demands the difficulty of the next hardest map

"only reason u flame the map is cuz its hard. decline maps cuz they are hard is the most stupid reason ever. in a few years this map will be easy for more players" -starkiller, above in chat

Besides, if starkiller was doing hard maps so he is the only one to finish them all.. Well let him be best or get ur ass some skill to be better then, complaining is really bullshit. Even if they have some war about who is best, let them have as long as it doesnt hurt guidelines. It keeps the game alive

The only ones u harm is urself if u want to shut down the map

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I don't like Insane 10* maps too

I dont like dummy maps

Now what

and Starkiller answers aggressively

Delete all dummy maps

ok in other words

I also dont like normal race, solo, fng, inf, zcatch, dummy ans block

Lets delete teeworlds

wow stop

No need to play maps u dont like

god

what did I do to you

werent u the guy who got mad when ppl didnt want to play ur block map tho

not trying to be rude or anything

That is not true and u know that

I was never mad about anything where my blmap is involved

alright well it sorta gave the impression.

this map has alr been released anyways so it will most likely stay released

ppl are entitled to their own opinion here so discussion is ofc allowed but just keep that in mind

I already don't play (hard) maps I don't like, didn't need your stupid advice

and I didn't say anything about removing maps

i was referring to some past messages

I said it to Simon

did u even read my text?

Nobody read that

do you know how easy it is to analyse speech of what u writing here? u tryna have everyone on ur side by saying "nobody is with u", "everybody knows why you make these maps. and its not because you enjoy them so much or want to give something to the community". thats poor

dont insult

read my text

and better for u and everyone, also read a book

nobody cares about grammar when discussing on the internet

bro tf this aint about grammar

what the actual

express yourself better next time

What about grandma?

and stop being mad for no reason

Is she ok

i agree with

who cares if a map only gets finished by 3 people

if someone finishes this a big achievement for them but just because it wont have 20 player who can finish this in the next year doesnt mean it shouldnt be rls d

The testers.

is it a problem having low finish maps?

Because they spend a lot of time testing

so ur bored of testing?

he made a block map but he dont like block..... nice xD

bro do i really have to explain to u what irony is

there u go

wow you know how to use google, Gg's man 👏 i want to see you finish this map since you support it so much

irony doesnt work well in chat

so u seperate ur point of view from everyone else. well congratulations

then like 5 people could support this map

stop insulting if you want to discuss

that wasnt an insult

stop abusing ur admin rights to push through ur point in discussion

you just called me brainless because i didnt get an irony (which didnt seem like one)

irony works well when talking to people who understand irony

when talking not when chatting

yes

yeah maybe u start noticing things. take ur time and read this chat a few times

why am i talking

i already did

get me an answer on level of my text then we talkin again

well insulting and making you look like you know what are you talking about doesnt make you right buddy. There are factors to look at a map when is made.

this map is a good map

very skilled people said its a good map

not making super hard, and test it part by part with super and say "oh this works nice" but never do a full run

is that ur problem?

whaat? xD

bro what kind of maps do you play?

what difficulty

why are you judging him when u are worse than him

We never said it wasnt. I even told Starkiller ingame when testing that i loved the map. Parts are actually great and creative, but they are extremely tight and super close timed jumps through the whole map. Almost whole ending is super crazy faily with tight jumps and its veeeery long, if he would've added tele atleast it would still be as hard as it is and better chance to finish but with the same skill lvl that map gives since you dont change parts.

because he messing with methods of pros when what i guess he aint never played a map like exanimus

ok. parts are thight, close timed jumps, faily, long

well exept tight that is good atributes for high skilled map

too faily is not good

like with capricorn

the map has good parts but u cant get to those parts cause the whole map is way too punishing

would have been a lot better map if some parts were less faily

yes

even without the faily parts it would still be a 5 star probably

and a fun 5 star

the faily parts are just fillers

for the good parts

Yes, but making a map "fun" its more important than making it "annoying" you are making a map for a whole 10k ppl community not just for 3 ppl. You can make a super hard map if you dont make it annoying. Here in this map there are kill tiles edges, which those are super hard + random

lol no

do you fr think exanimus is made for 10k ppl

if there is somethin to hook below you

you can do it 100%

of the time

ah yeah izi xD

pls read my text again

none of the insane maps are made for average ppl ik that but i would prefer to play adrenaline maps or justice 2 or binary, grim reaper as an example, because they are fun + map its still hard which i cant finish but i still enjoy playing. (now you gonna say "oh u said insane map but this is solo") xDD anyway...

I think this"discussion" had reached a dead end

yeah thats exactly my point. feel free to play the maps u want. keep urself out of exanimus then cuz theres ppl who want to play it

why do i have to keep myself out of it?

i can do more parts in this map than u can do, but you still think you can judge it better than all of us here?

You forgot that it is not our job to test maps, it is all voluntary. Testers only test when they have time and want to, not when they have to. You seem to have a lot of experience in mapping and testing, you might want to test maps in the future. Only then we will see if everything is just empty words.

And thats facts

tl; dr

If a map fits todays standards of creativity, balance, style, etc why wouldnt we release it? Too hard should never be a reason for decline because one day it isnt anymore. Thats why we made insane server for example.

The Starkiller solo maps are well made, just only 3 people can finish rn. And i guess more can if they would tryhard it

totally agree

points is nothing man

i think he meant 10.000 players

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SORRY

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