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I see that you were inspired by stronghold to make this map Well, this one is not releasable because stronghold was released in 2016 and it was almost the first hh map I don't see a future for this map and it's better to restart a map from scratch by taking inspiration from more recent maps

$decline

Quick fix that I see

For your next map

(Maybe I have wrong on the last screen tell me if this is the case)

Me and (I'm sure) other testers are available if you want to ask us for advice for your next map

he's made maps in this style long before stronghold 😬

Hey, yeah that is what I was about to say, I have made a map series called "SimplePlay" (which leads to the similar name SimpleBLocks) which is basically the same style but on novice/moderate level and shorter. But if you decline it, i will respect it but wont agree with you. 🙂

About the logo, yep has to be embedded, my bad

Last screenshot: you supposed to hammer 1 tee over throught the hole and 2 tee jump to left and get caught. couldnt test it cuz im a scrub with my dummy 🙂

Oh yeah its too far, will fix it, unless its 100% declined

I would say make it a little bit easier and it would be a great map

more things you can chill on

more ways to save someone when you dont first try a part

and then this map is good

Yeah can do that, but it is still declined so not sure if its worth working on it

becasue im not changing parts just adding little things

talk to testers

as they are mostly noobs that can only play 1 style of map

and dont see the ways this could be improved

Oopsi

Sorry for this, I forgot to check ^^'

just be sure your map got declined without even being played

The fact that you forgot to inlay the logo disturbed me a little bit, but my bad for the rest

haha np, yeah i screwed that up

I tried it, and I post my humble opinion :x

with dummy ?

Honestly looks like not a bad simple hh map, just the start seems a bit small. But we typically decline similar maps nowadays so not sure if it'd be fair to release this one. Maybe with some improvements and a fresher modern design it'd be releasable so let's see what other people think and reset for now.

$reset

So I cant use the design is what you are saying?

if anyone plays brutal maps with design he is just mentally retarded that is my opinion XD

design doesn't matter for now, just saying in case we decide later to release it it'd need at least some background

But I didnt use background for my simpleplays either

its 2020 make a simple background or make the background fit the theme

yeah but mapping quality is moving forward, nowadays all maps have more than just basic blocks and a flat color sky

its not about that, its about reffering to an old series

but yeah i guess i can do that

but I'm not much of an expert on this type of maps so I'd like to see what stronghold players think

exactly make the gameplay better and later care about the design option

meaning changeing parts or just adding little thing to make parts more easy, saveable like you said earlier

more like the second

gameplay looks to me about as good as stronghold so for now I'm just interested if players want another map like this or not

okay cool, so lets wait for them to try it i guess

3 rd hit is the hardest part of the map its too faily (for 2 player) and not consistent at all (i might did something wrong)

long and boring fly s

already changed that

then maybe upload map

im changing other stuff still

ok im still gonna tell u the rest in case u didnt see the mistakes

🙂

yes please 🙂

same problem

this is just a waste of time

too repetative and last edge and getting down your partner is super annoying

blank empty space

maybe put another edge on the left of the hookable cuz 1 is quite few specailly u have to start fly its a proble with 6+ people

too repetative

thats all

forgot to add freeze here

yikes 😄

Only these parts are candidates for release

other part so boring with basic idea.

The map itself seems to be decent. Even though I would adjust a few things, your newest version is already much better. The big problem is that this map neither does something new, nor does it feel like a new Interpretation of something old. Or to say it simple: It's more of the same. For Testers, this could be a reason to decline it.

Okay I see your point and I can understand if it is getting declined. I just thought maybe a new facet hh-map could be nice, anyway let me try to make an example. Imagine all players are marathon athletes. They always run, it is always the same, the only thing that changes is the route. So basically what I am saying is, many player do not want much different anyway, based on the percentage of a map running on a server. For example, the Muliteasymap server is always full (I know it is a on map only server but still ppl are joining it), then what other maps do you see? Grandma, Grandpa, Stronghold, Back to Basics, and then maybe some other maps but it is always coming back to these maps I just listed. That's my thoughts at least.

Correct me if I'm wrong 🙂

if u look at "Grandma, Grandpa, Stronghold, Back to Basics" map structure like hh+part+hf+part+hf+part etc. so "part+filler+part+filler etc" but if i look at ur map it is look like "filler+filler+filler+filler etc"

and dont forget for no creative maps quality is higher, cus have so much hh and hf maps.

hmm i guess decline it then, maybe ill pick it up and change the structure of the whole map if im in the mood for that but for now i dont plan to change a whole lot. it is what it is ^^

decline

$decline

@Deleted User why?

because big boss triki said it

mapper will change the structure of the whole map

SBL you listen to A guy that is not A tester 🤣

Look further up, there are also 'testers' who said something about this map

anyone can test maps and give thier opinion the mapper can decide if they want to change something, stop being so arrogant

if you read trikis reviews on maps everymap is shit and unreleaseable

so i wouldnt even listen to someone like that

xD

u funny

Well he is right xd You aren’t a Tester xd

I have to agree with ama as well, triki is very strict when testing, little things result in an unreleaseable map for him.

any filler in map = delete or unreleaseable map for triki

Ye xd

you have a point

Well, I said i might change something if its not beeing released

Tbh, I was waiting for some on opinions aswell, but obviously he decided to close this thread xD

and Savalic just does it

so idk whats even happening here

apparently anyone can join a maps discussion and tell savalic to decline it 😄

hmm i guess decline it then, maybe ill pick it up and change the structure of the whole map if im in the mood for that but for now i dont plan to change a whole lot. it is what it is ^^

i think its cus u said this before that message

if ur gonna rework it i can put it in the "waiting for mapper" category

than put it on $watiing

idk what even went on here, there was a decline then a reset then a decline

seems like different people are saying different things, so i'll just reset it

$reset

if you're reworking it or plan on reworking it, we can put it in $waiting

if a tester / the mapper has a reason to decline we can decline it

seems like some confusion happened here

well i was waiting for more opinions

becasue i dont know if i want to rework it

idk if that makes sense

so if everyone says its not releasable like this i might pick it up but dont know when i got time for that and the mood ^^

so if a few more ppl could tell their honest opinion, that would be great

right now there just really isn't anything new, which isn't bad, but most maps of this type still have creative parts and deliver in their long run while developing a flow. this is both too short and has no outstanding creative parts, so IMO this needs a rather big update

thats what im talking about, feedback rather then roasting lol

thanks! xD

and with creative I don't meen weapons / tune zone stuff but just clever interactions of minimum two players / large groups. but there are still an infinite possibility of interesting interaction. you can also pay more attention to "flow" and I think this can be done by thinking about how parts are connected and in which order. because it is not trivial what the next part ist, you can put a lot of thought into that. making good team 0 maps is not easy

For me filler is ok if he not longer then part and between 2 good part

Ye it is my bad. Wonderfully2 was have same problem and it was too decline for same reason. and i thought if u need remap more then 50% map it need just declined cus need a lot of time for rework(especially if these are big maps).

I explained to the mapper where he was wrong, and as it seemed to me he understood what was wrong with the map.

Sorry if I offended you

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Update: changed/added/deleted a few parts and changed design

So what is the status here now? xD

what about unfreeze here?

entity bug

entity bugs

too much clouds xd

$waiting

i think we'll need to have an internal vote on whether this map is releasable since it does feel like an old 2017 map but some parts are decent.

is it possible to get up there with speedlfy? that is your intention right?

Yes

fixed entity bugs, removed clouds

and also added unfreeze

Maybe try it with dummy

ye

With speedfly bug at the end

Make it not too easy

ok works just fine

add more hookable here

red = freeze , blue = unfreeze .. it fits better here

fixed

to hide the transparent holes, i would make this a solid tile (like above tiles)

I don't like the hookable design, it is a bit too saturated in contrast to other rather dull colors. So try to dampen that, or a color that better fits the mood like I did below (r 255, g 200, b 160)

like I said earlier, here a solid for sake of aesthetics

unmarked

missing wall

there are places where you sandwich freeze between walls and tiles

missing walls

missing walls, too

blue make solid block, orange remove freeze

only one wall doodad in this wall, put a few more

after all that map is ready

I have fixed everything you mentioned, thanks for that, but is the color for the hookable really a problem? I do like it like that

in case you want a 2nd opinion, i agree with Red that its quite a weird contrast

I won't force you on it

$ready 2

https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/780562924280348722/800159807696404481 hmm

not like its needed

its reallyyy hard 2ppl to do that like really faily and hook is annoying if its 3 tiles only

https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/780562924280348722/800160557755138059 hmm

aled is coolpart

if someone adds an aled option in first part im gonna shit talk his maps so much he doesnt want to map anymore

whats wrong with you

xDDD

Its just a joke i hate People that play stronghold just to aled the first part and fail 90% of the time

that i can agree to it, i always want to go normal way, but all people go down all time xD