#Cavescape
"Cavescape" by paproninja [Dummy]
DDNet 08/27/2025 3:42 PM

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@ninja25226
DDNet 08/27/2025 3:42 PM
DDNet 08/27/2025 3:42 PM

Map 🐞:

pioooooo 08/27/2025 4:00 PM

the topleft arrow should be black like the middle one, i thought it was speedup

pioooooo 08/27/2025 4:00 PM

skip

pioooooo 08/27/2025 4:02 PM

inconsistent design

pioooooo 08/27/2025 4:03 PM

also missing timecp plz add

ninja25226 08/27/2025 4:32 PM

oh, didnt see it

ninja25226 08/27/2025 4:33 PM

yeah... i saw it so i putted more tele but still possible i guess... i dont know how to fix cause if i dont put speedup it gets to difficult... maybe i make the last part a bit easier so i can remove speedup and clean teles

ninja25226 08/27/2025 4:34 PM

the transition from cave to grass or the grass inside???

pioooooo 08/27/2025 4:51 PM

i mean the tele and grass, no big deal tho

ninja25226 08/27/2025 4:52 PM

but like the combination or how is it placed???

ninja25226 08/27/2025 4:52 PM

i can change it

pioooooo 08/27/2025 4:54 PM

like there's a corner in the tele and a curve for grass

ninja25226 08/27/2025 4:55 PM

ok ill try to fix that

ninja25226 08/27/2025 6:23 PM

time cps, fixed arrow color error, fixed tele 13 skip, blended grass-tele transition in last drag

manikoo 08/28/2025 6:55 AM

caventure vibes

.cammo. 08/28/2025 7:57 AM

what client did you use to make this ? these images should go into external automatically and reduce filesize down to 500kb

ninja25226 08/28/2025 8:55 AM

ddnet

ninja25226 08/28/2025 8:55 AM

in tutorials i saw i needed to embed all stuff prob that my error

ninja25226 08/28/2025 8:55 AM

all default stuff in external??

.cammo. 08/28/2025 8:56 AM

embedding adds them to the map file

ninja25226 08/28/2025 8:56 AM

ohh

.cammo. 08/28/2025 8:56 AM

vanilla textures come with the game and thus dont need to be embedded

ninja25226 08/28/2025 8:56 AM

okok

ninja25226 08/28/2025 8:56 AM

ill change it

.cammo. 08/28/2025 8:56 AM

plus you can decrease map size from 500x500 to like 200x300 or whatever the size was

ninja25226 08/28/2025 8:56 AM

thats why we all need a good full mapping tuto 🥲

ninja25226 08/28/2025 8:57 AM

ill try to reduce more if i can too

.cammo. 08/28/2025 8:58 AM

sadly the wiki got nuked and melon just started on his video

manikoo 08/28/2025 8:58 AM

isn't map so small?

manikoo 08/28/2025 8:58 AM

like it's not even 1 star

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:02 AM

how do I reduce the left part?? when i reduce the slider it reduces right to left:down to up

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:02 AM

so up left how do I reduce it

.cammo. 08/28/2025 9:04 AM

thats fine

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:04 AM

btw, do I need to put in external ALL the images that let me do it?? clouds too?

.cammo. 08/28/2025 9:04 AM

theres more empty space on the bottom and right

.cammo. 08/28/2025 9:04 AM

clouds should be included with the game yes

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:17 AM

un-embedded mapres (1.1mb to 375kb 💀 ) and reduced width-height of all layers

.cammo. 08/28/2025 9:17 AM

best update

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:17 AM

crazy file size reduce, good to know for next map

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:18 AM

yep

.cammo. 08/28/2025 9:18 AM

you could also put all the text quads into one giant image as opposed to many small images since that increases filesize

.cammo. 08/28/2025 9:18 AM

or you could use a font tileset instead

.cammo. 08/28/2025 9:18 AM

but the filesize is so small already it doesnt matter

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:20 AM

I used a random web to generate the text cuz i wanted cool font+transparent bg and with free-online webs only found this one and really liked the font

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:21 AM

but putting all in a single image.. im in another laptop right now i dont have my pc so I dont have gimp here

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:21 AM

then its ok:)

.cammo. 08/28/2025 9:21 AM

i can do that for you

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:21 AM

i mean if you want

.cammo. 08/28/2025 9:29 AM
ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:34 AM

how you do so it matches the grid???

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:34 AM

nicee tysm

.cammo. 08/28/2025 9:34 AM

move the quad so it snaps to grid first

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:35 AM

no like how you do in for example gimp to match it or its just coincidence

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:35 AM

cause it practicly perfectly matches

.cammo. 08/28/2025 9:35 AM

i used the grid function in krita

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:35 AM

ohh

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:35 AM

nice

.cammo. 08/28/2025 9:36 AM
ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:36 AM

ok ill put it in map prob I take a bit longer than last one

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:36 AM

I use gimp cuz ik a bit from school lol but I used krita too

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:37 AM

wont let me download? wtf

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:37 AM

where the button lmao

.cammo. 08/28/2025 9:37 AM

you can open link in browser then save image there

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:39 AM

also like this i guess the text is tile-size so its much better thankssss

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:46 AM

normal..

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:46 AM

aspect ratio (wtf)

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:47 AM

ill reset editor but wtf

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:47 AM

lol

.cammo. 08/28/2025 9:48 AM

yeah aspect ratio doesnt work well with sliced quads

.cammo. 08/28/2025 9:48 AM

you can either scale up the sliced quads using grid or scale up the original quad before slicing

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:49 AM

ok

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:59 AM

all texts in same png

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:59 AM

its bigger file size now wtf

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:59 AM

oh

ninja25226 08/28/2025 9:59 AM

didnt delete the old mapres sec

ninja25226 08/28/2025 10:00 AM

deleted unused mapres

ninja25226 08/28/2025 10:01 AM

now, saved a bit:)

ninja25226 08/28/2025 2:18 PM

i dont know why but in test servers i cant deepfly?

ninja25226 08/28/2025 2:18 PM

why is that

ninja25226 08/28/2025 2:19 PM

like in server settings I dont have any deepfly command, is default so it should let you deepfly...

ninja25226 08/28/2025 2:20 PM

i mean i can put sv_deepfly 1 and it should be solved

ninja25226 08/28/2025 2:20 PM

ill try that

ninja25226 08/28/2025 2:20 PM

deeply bug

ninja25226 08/28/2025 2:21 PM

ok now it works in test servers🤷

ninja25226 08/28/2025 2:22 PM

weird bug

ninja25226 08/28/2025 2:22 PM

in local it worked alwaysa

catseyenebulous 08/28/2025 2:23 PM

It’s disabled on official servers to prevent skipping.

ninja25226 08/28/2025 2:23 PM

ohh ok

ninja25226 08/28/2025 2:23 PM

so i must put the command in 1?

catseyenebulous 08/28/2025 2:25 PM

I think it’s 1, yes. If it works then you already did it correctly.

vappy19 08/28/2025 2:25 PM
ninja25226 08/28/2025 2:27 PM

Vappy testea dragemmm jkajaja

vappy19 08/28/2025 2:28 PM

🫡🐤

ninja25226 08/29/2025 7:35 AM

Can someone finish checking the checklist? I think 1, 12, 14, 15 can alredy be checked and 13 and 16 also but double check

.cammo. 08/29/2025 7:35 AM

checklist ?

.cammo. 08/29/2025 7:36 AM

oh the tester controls

ninja25226 08/29/2025 9:50 AM

yep

ninja25226 08/29/2025 3:32 PM

I tried going in super from start to finish (all gates open) and simulating drags very fast its 2:20 or so and looking at dummy server ranks fastest times are 1m-2m so I guess its barely enough

ninja25226 08/29/2025 3:34 PM

btw I've putted my name wrong in the ticket for the map, ive putten Paproninja but ingame its paproninja does this affect??? can I change it??

manikoo 08/29/2025 3:38 PM

with your record 2 minutes, top1 will be 50 sec

ninja25226 08/29/2025 3:46 PM

2 mins running start to end not even dragging

ninja25226 08/29/2025 3:47 PM

running through the path u gotta take but running

ninja25226 08/29/2025 3:48 PM

and if it was i saw other dummy maps with that time tho

ninja25226 08/29/2025 3:48 PM

my pb is 2:57 or so

.cammo. 08/29/2025 3:49 PM

you can ask testers to change it

ninja25226 08/29/2025 4:20 PM

do i @ them?

.cammo. 08/29/2025 4:20 PM

prefferably not

pioooooo 08/29/2025 4:21 PM

change what to what

.cammo. 08/29/2025 4:21 PM

.

pioooooo 08/29/2025 4:21 PM

it should be paproninja?

.cammo. 08/29/2025 4:21 PM

think so

pioooooo 08/29/2025 4:23 PM

guess i don't have permission

blaiszephyr 08/29/2025 4:26 PM
@murpi

I only get an error message on the change mappers formula. Is it Admin only, is the bot broken or am I stupid?

murpi 08/29/2025 5:29 PM

should work now

DDNet 08/29/2025 5:42 PM
ninja25226 08/29/2025 6:46 PM

nice

ninja25226 08/29/2025 6:47 PM

sorry bout that

ramirok_ 08/29/2025 9:55 PM

Xd

ninja25226 08/29/2025 10:05 PM

lo probaste??

ramirok_ 08/29/2025 11:33 PM

No

ramirok_ 08/29/2025 11:33 PM

Ahora pruebo

ninja25226 08/31/2025 2:43 PM

"secret" room at end of map

ninja25226 08/31/2025 2:45 PM

"dummy here" sign at the start so theres no path confusion for the deep

ililja 09/06/2025 6:59 AM

Hey cool map but its a bit on the short side here is some issues i found.

  1. you can run back in there maybe add a unhook there and lower the tp. 2+3. don't mark dialog with turn off entities.
  2. remove these blocks its annoying you cant just hit dummy off the edge there and hook him right now you need to go on the edge and then do the part. also you don't need all these unfreezes just put one on the checkpoint.
  3. the unfreeze is again useless and the arrow is not helpful it made me fail once.
  4. remove these 2 unhookable they make you hit your head and are annoying. 7+8. you could add stoppers here to better setup the deep fly and if you do that you could also higher unfreeze above.
  5. you can skip the dragging up part and just throw him up there, you probably intended for him to get dragged under the block on the right then left but you can just instantly pull him under the left block, its annoying to re hook him there you can make it so you only need 1 hook to start the part.
  6. i think the map is a bit too short maybe extend it by 1-2 floors.
  7. personal preference but i like blocks rounded or designed so if you want the map too be playable in design i recommend you do it. GL on your map
ililja 09/06/2025 7:00 AM

i missed screenshot 5. sry guys

blaiszephyr 09/06/2025 9:18 AM

how dare you...

ililja 09/06/2025 9:19 AM

:c

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:05 PM

wow

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:05 PM

alot xd

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:05 PM

1st going back where? like back or down??

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:06 PM

2nd and 3rd ok ill delete them, should i put off entities in somewhere??

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:07 PM

4 those blocks are there to make it a bit harder... and the unfreezes ill try to reduce them 👍

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:10 PM
  1. at first it was intented to throw, just added more hookthroughs cuz it was a bit annoying so its ezier but yes its like that
ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:11 PM
  1. i need help for that, how do i extend up if my limit is there??
ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:12 PM

i can extend down tho

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:12 PM

a bit complicated but can do it

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:12 PM
  1. ill try to make it better :D
ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:13 PM
@ililja

ill wait for ur answer, by now ill do the stuff i can

ililja 09/06/2025 1:14 PM

back into freeze

ililja 09/06/2025 1:14 PM

yea its just annoying that you always need to go on the edge

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:14 PM

wait im turning on pc

ililja 09/06/2025 1:14 PM

it takes away flow

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:15 PM

its part of it... its kind of needed cuz u need a bit of highground to jump up and he needs to ve lower so the part fits

ililja 09/06/2025 1:16 PM

you can change a few things that doont afect how the part works

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:16 PM

how

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:16 PM

but

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:16 PM

lets go 1 by 1

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:16 PM

i dont understand

ililja 09/06/2025 1:18 PM

like this

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:18 PM

then he can't go under

ililja 09/06/2025 1:18 PM
ililja 09/06/2025 1:18 PM

he can

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:18 PM

so? bc its faily orr???

ililja 09/06/2025 1:18 PM

theres a block

ililja 09/06/2025 1:19 PM

if you accidently keep pressing you reset

ililja 09/06/2025 1:19 PM

but its at the start so its fine

ililja 09/06/2025 1:19 PM

just annoying

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:19 PM

it's not like super hard to cross it's a jump

ililja 09/06/2025 1:19 PM

no not to cross

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:19 PM

so?

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:20 PM

1st time u cross u dont need go go back for nun

ililja 09/06/2025 1:20 PM
ililja 09/06/2025 1:20 PM

and then you need to re

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:21 PM

ohh

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:21 PM

i understand

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:21 PM

js putting the tele bit further works??

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:21 PM

dont want to put block in tghere

ililja 09/06/2025 1:21 PM

ig

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:21 PM

that block gotta be there

ililja 09/06/2025 1:21 PM

it is

ililja 09/06/2025 1:21 PM

still there

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:22 PM

then??

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:22 PM

all the hookthroughs except the big squere cant move

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:22 PM

rest can be moved

ililja 09/06/2025 1:22 PM
ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:22 PM

well the big one either ig

ililja 09/06/2025 1:22 PM

like this

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:22 PM

then he bumps going right so doesnt work

ililja 09/06/2025 1:22 PM

and this 1 up

ililja 09/06/2025 1:23 PM

it does

ililja 09/06/2025 1:23 PM

its not hard to move it up by 1

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:23 PM

all?

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:23 PM

i can try

ililja 09/06/2025 1:23 PM
ililja 09/06/2025 1:23 PM

and now it works

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:23 PM

ok

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:24 PM

how much u moved???

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:24 PM

can u put grid in the screenshot and bigger screenshot pls

ililja 09/06/2025 1:25 PM

up by 1

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:25 PM

ok ill fix the first stuff ill tell u when i have it to fix the other stuff

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:37 PM

now?

@ililja
ililja 09/06/2025 1:38 PM
  1. is good
  2. doesnt have unfreez
ililja 09/06/2025 1:38 PM

but then it would be fine

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:38 PM

unfreeze is so when u jump acroos u dont need to wait

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:38 PM

and the tele dont need cuz theres no freeze but i can put it ig

ililja 09/06/2025 1:38 PM

oh yea

ililja 09/06/2025 1:38 PM

mb

ililja 09/06/2025 1:38 PM

sry

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:39 PM

dwdw

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:39 PM

:D

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:40 PM

about deleting unnecesary unfreezes ill do it now but next thing, point 9, what skip???

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:40 PM

i think what u say its the intended way

ililja 09/06/2025 1:40 PM

join testing server

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:40 PM

let me send u a vid of how is intended

ninja25226 09/06/2025 1:40 PM

k

ililja 09/06/2025 1:40 PM

or that sure

ninja25226 09/06/2025 3:05 PM

deleted "turn off entities" in not necessary places. fixed anoying parts. fixed confusing stuff. Fixed two skips

ninja25226 09/06/2025 3:06 PM

Im gonna extend the map by one floor cuz a lot of ppl said its to short, so its not 100% finished

ililja 09/09/2025 1:45 PM

happened to me aswell while testing xd

404.username.not.found 09/09/2025 1:52 PM

I'm not the only one

ninja25226 09/09/2025 7:47 PM

lmao

ninja25226 09/09/2025 7:47 PM

its at purpouse xd if u fuck up too much

ninja25226 09/09/2025 7:48 PM
@ililja

would 3 new parts make it?????? I have 3 new parts but i dont want to redecorate and redo some of the para/bg if i need to do more so, should i make some more???

ninja25226 09/09/2025 7:51 PM
ninja25226 09/09/2025 7:52 PM
ninja25226 09/09/2025 7:52 PM

(all of them will have switches to open the doors, and this one will have it in that tight space with the stopper to make forced to go around)

ililja 09/10/2025 2:57 PM

these are good parts but i think you should find a better way to connect them. Using a laser door is not a good way

ililja 09/10/2025 2:59 PM

3 parts wont suffice i recommend you would add filler parts in between those

ililja 09/10/2025 3:03 PM

also try to add screenshots on what you changed its annoying to guess what you fixed and didnt

ninja25226 09/10/2025 8:24 PM

k

ninja25226 09/10/2025 8:24 PM

mmm ill look ideas

ninja25226 09/10/2025 8:27 PM

but all the map is like that so i might stick at least for this map, ill try to change that the next map

ninja25226 09/10/2025 8:27 PM

but now idk i dont dislike it nor like it

vena6080 09/10/2025 9:28 PM

the structure is not good and the space is too tight

vena6080 09/10/2025 9:29 PM

the killtiles are badly use, you need to have a structure for the kill tile, respecting a logic in your placement

vena6080 09/10/2025 9:29 PM

can skip the deep

vena6080 09/10/2025 9:30 PM

using switch for a dummy map is a lazy way, there is many thing you can do to force the player to do a part without a switch

vena6080 09/10/2025 9:31 PM

some other special tiles are not proprelly used

vena6080 09/10/2025 9:32 PM

the parts are too tight and rly generic, nothing rly interesting

vena6080 09/10/2025 9:32 PM

same for the fly, the first one is just a very short deep fly and the second is using a wall, so useless

DDNet 09/10/2025 9:32 PM

Mention:

@ninja25226
ninja25226 09/10/2025 9:36 PM

...

ninja25226 09/10/2025 9:36 PM

well, ok

ninja25226 09/10/2025 9:36 PM

thanks

ililja 09/12/2025 3:20 PM

dw a declined map can be reset if its good enough so if you still want to continue on this map thats fine

ililja 09/12/2025 3:21 PM

if you do ill help you

ninja25226 09/12/2025 5:22 PM

okok im actually doing progress, i did a 3rd floor and im gonna be doing one or two more, my creativity for gameplay came back :D

ninja25226 09/12/2025 5:23 PM

Nice!! if i need anything ill tell u thankss

ililja 09/12/2025 5:23 PM

dw

ililja 09/13/2025 4:32 PM
  1. move the spawn there for starting the part better 2.same here
  2. id say remove that unfreeze and add it on the floor and dont mark it convenience unfrezze doesnt need to be marked
  3. these unhookables dont exist
  4. lower this plattform by 1
  5. remove the cp in the middle the drag is too easy right now
  6. you can escape the map
  7. add freeze here it looks weird imo
  8. add tps there, remove these teleporters, add unhookables you can pull him under there
  9. all these tp can be replaced with freeze but add unfreeze on the floor
ililja 09/13/2025 4:34 PM
  1. mark that dummy has to go there
  2. you can do it so its possible without speedups (if you can do a part without special tiles it should be with out them)
ninja25226 09/14/2025 7:07 AM

okk, ill change it thankss

ninja25226 09/14/2025 7:51 AM

second one, if dummy falls first, its moved a bit to the right and player falls, its an inifite loop, cant be that close

ililja 09/14/2025 7:51 AM

hmm i see

ililja 09/14/2025 7:51 AM

but its annoying to jump behind him and then hammer him in