https://ddnet.tw/testmaps/?map=Yun_Gu_2

some parts are really annoying to play

bug

spawn doesnt work (in t0)

why not 2p forced

you cant spawn in a team

missing freez corners at end

missing corners in this area

thanks coke

same here

this tele will make ppl rq, its just 2nd part, very annoying to do

cp here instead

would be cooler imo if u delete some freeze here and make it soloable swing

cp

move ht 1 tile > and make space here instead, 1 tile space is too tight and annoying to do

boring part, its just about 2 edgehooks

lame anticheat, im sure u can find better solution

annoying edge, i would replace with ht

added more spawn points

removed stoppers

thank you, i added the corners

fixed these 2 parts

the 2nd part, its ez to do it

added a english title at the beginning

i want to keep the edge hook parts , and other things

mentioned were fixed

beautiful map⬛

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Thanks

for improved the animation of 'flying dots'

changed the cp style

merged clouds, moon and sky layers to one group

Fixed some freeze corner😅

add star animation & added some unfreeze

fixed a cheat

🤔

🙂

when rls

I checked the latest version, and i have high expectations for this map. Design is flawlessly good, no design mistakes / bugs so far, and the gameplay feels like it's brutal difficulty. I would give this map a brutal 2, after all it's not even close to faily, which it makes it practisable and after all fun. I think it's ready to release on next week.

Thank you

Agree with

, map is rdy for months now..

please rework the spawn: spawns should be grouped together, it should be trivial to get to start (even on a full server!) and there should be more than 2 tiles space before startline.. (especially if the map is team forced)

extra cps on spawn arent necessary - if you go into cptele without ever touching a cp, you will be ported to spawn anyways

red tiles might look good design wise but they make gameplay worse. blue tiles i would remove to make people get going

i agree with kicker about part 2 - it might be easy if you know how to do it, but figuring it out can be tough. its also the only part in the map that requires such advanced "game knowledge"

makes more sense to move the cp on to the platform

this doesnt look like an undeep marking

move cto 29 down

this hook is odd

move 1 to the right

cp 40 part is way too easy

you mean its unbalanced compare to other parts? or just generally easy?

i would make this hookthrough

this is overkill, you can end the part here

compared to the rest of course

i don't get the third picture, i mean why you show it up as a problem, people can check it with entities off

other pictures and mentions are reasonable

having to check design markings in entities is bad

they are there so that you dont have to use entities

well yes, cuz there is no general explanational marking for deep :V

but all considering that, people will expect brutal maps to be played by professionals; meaning that entities off will have objectives on this map

so i don't think (besides the design of it) that we might change that

design markings have to be understandable

add startline here

(below start)

i've seen worse markers for deep m8

just let it as it is

wait

is that possible to cheat that?

without weapons, no way

its possible

doubt

whatever

if somebody finds a way to cheat that, then you can sue me by telling the oppisite 😦

from what I remember this map was full of little cheats, focus on more important things than deep markings for now

oh ravie, if you think so, then why aren't you in this case?

I'm too busy to test now

we can wait 1 week

i knew this would happen

i already reported all the other important things? :D

I mean improving how parts work like kicker's screens, not moving a cp

i dont really mind minor gameplay issues

as long as it works well overall

what's the point in fixing little things when parts might still change in bigger ways and make new little issues

anyway do whatever

why would parts change in bigger ways?

besides that 1 unbalanced part

i dont think ravie looked at the map anyway

he just says those things as an exuse for his tester role

also why would there be more issues on a fix that had more issues already?

doesn't make sense to change the parts so that it wont have issues ravie?

not helpful

replace me

new beginning

all jao mentioned fixed

didn't change the cp40 . its not that easy the last wall hammer is some strict🤔

the 2nd part changed as kicker said

rls

that one wall hammer doesn’t raise it to the same difficulty as the other parts

it’s really noticeably easier

i tested and its much harder than before

i hope this is the final version

also changed something at beginning part to make it looks better

rls

Still not more tiles before startline?

$ready 2

thanks for the changes

i fixed some remaining minor issues myself

friday rls?

you released it without notice

nice, u saved us from the ddossers

smart

that was the idea

u took my idea, or?

completely unrelated?

what you said

fixed unfreeze

bad vpn

where

tp 36

and 54

add unfreeze on tp 36 and 54

can you show screens

(before after)

wait ok

before & after

x D

also i added 3 blocks at the beginning

not really a big deal 🤷‍♂️

thanks uploaded

np

how to do the literal first part with dummy?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/342454474117218334/647103270522847251/its_not_that_hard.mp4

not worth it

woah that's mad cancer

so annoying compared to doing it with an actual player

[8:53 PM] Boci: rls

seems like you were ok with it 1 day ago

i actually didn't think about playing it with a dummy 👀 but that's not really an argument is it? my opinion doesn't matter really

well now it doesnt anymore xd

🤷‍♂️

i'll watch out more next time

im confident anyone who can finish a brutal 2* map can do this with a dummy