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f3

the map looks very dark, maybe it could be a little lighter

bg intense red

^^^^

parts not balanced for a moderate, a bit boring tbh not real new stuff except that freeze game tiles but it doenst make it that interesting. Sorry

Thanks for telling me your opinion i will look what the other players says and if more people says the same il rework the boring parts

and do the design a little lighter f3 😄

there's some parts I liked but the first few parts feel like novice to me and there's some parts that are way harder than the rest

and some parts are boring IMO because they embody a design trend I've noticed in new novice maps where every drag part feels ceremonial / like it exists for the sake of being a drag rather than being a challenge for players of the target difficulty range

I was about to make some simple parts for the start bc its t0 and can be so annoying if its start with a mod part and the players block each other

Can i have pictures of the boring parts?

Or all of them are boring

ok but these are tall enough and long enough single drags that ppl typically have to stop to prepare the drag instead of just doing it and getting out of the way in my experience. also not very interesting as far as novice parts go

sure it doesnt take long, but its kind of a slow start and i don't think that they're the best choices for avoiding blocking

someone will get in the way and then players will get dropped in the middle and die immediately lol

I got some ideas in my mind rn like start the map with solo part then 2 drag

When i was tested the gameplay eith my friend i also know that the first and the second part are weird but i was corious for the testers respond

Like other peoples what would say about it

Just these two part was the boring or there is other?

this is also 1 hook novice part, also you should probably not have a 1 high tunnel to get into the hook point when you don't need to but that might just be me

Let me know about every single boring parts i wanna fix them soon as possible

this part is actually deceptively hard to do with dummy because of the unfreeze in the stopper (which is good for non-dummy runners for what it's worth - idk maybe there's a simple way to keep dummy from leaving the stopper in just .1 seconds of holding right or maybe this is a non-issue)

but the main thing I wanted to say here isn't that, but rather that you can toss a tee up and do it this alternate way instead with an awkward hook here

Alright, im sorry i wasnt tested it with dummy like is it possible or not, but i think its possible like u just throw the dummy up left and catch it. Sorry about the drawing im on phone.

If you move the ceiling overhang further left I think it could work, but as it is I can get the dummy under the wall but it gets pulled back left instead of getting to the other side

nvm i got it but its awkward

moving ceiling would make it easier i think

Maybe i will make it higher

just for clarity, this is the bit that makes it awkward

Alright ill remove that wall

Or just remove the unfreeze

Here, the first part is boring to me because while the drag itself is fine, it's very short and immediately ends in a wall hammer that can take many attempts to get for some players / runs and being free for others (wall hammers can be fickle sometimes) which is fine when you get it first try, but tedious if you end up having to try like 5 times before the hammer finally connects

Second part is boring for a much simpler reason, it is one simple hook and that's it (and then down below it's another simple one hook drag for that same person)

Here's our first massive difficulty spike. Having to do a such a strong sideways midair throw in gores like this is hard and quite faily for a 1 or low 2 star moderate when you only have 2 players. If the tee is tossed only a short distance, it can be saved, but if they are thrown far the thrown tee can be very difficult or impossible to get back. And if the tee who throws doesn't then grab the ceiling and swing in, they cannot be retrieved from the left side

i think this is a fun drag btw 👍

I suggest putting CP 16 here as well so it's easier for people to go back up if they need to after crossing CP 17 for some reason

This drag from below will suck on t0 in its current form, because if someone tries while another person is doing it and messes up, then everyone trying has to start over. Also I'm not a huge fan of the part as it currently is anyway because it forces me to start over even when I'm not stuck. having a manual button to the side to rescue tees up top if they are unreachable is better in t0 context.

I like these sections, but left side might be a bit hard for mod 1, its prolly fine for mod 2 though. IDK i don't remember when this sort of motif starts showing up in the difficulty range, official testers will probably have a better idea if it's fine or not so i think leaving it there is fine for the moment (see message below, forgot to attach again)

edit: also you only have to do it once near the start so it's probably fine

This final part needs to be changed. It's hard for moderate 1 IMO, and forces players to temporarily ditch to grab finish and then go back to give other player clear too. The ending of a map shouldn't prevent players from finishing together at around the same time.

The fixes will come i promise but i only can send it tomorrow. Thanks for the testing and for your time.

Oh, one thing I forgot to mention earlier: horizontal rocketfly is also probably too hard for a moderate 1* map, though idk it's admittedly a fairly short section so again I'll see what testers think. but I think at that stage the most advanced rocket flies are just switching between flying against two vertical walls or something

i could also just be misremembering on that one anyway but its inclusion surprised me

< {} > New Update < {} > | version 0.1.2 |

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<<< [ Change Log ] >>>

< Fixed >

• Coloring / Transparent
• Bush
• Missing corner's

< Added >

• 3 new part
• More difficult at few already exist part
• Team only map
• Pauseable

< Removed >

• Very Novice part's
• Little grass tiles

< Reworked >

• End part

<<< [ Scarlet.map File ] >>>

cool map 👍

PUT A warning sign on top, or another way to go to next part, everyone will think that you have to go straight left

i personally hate when mappers put the switches on the teleport because is an unnecessary spam, just put 1 on the cto

ig we have to find a way to mark the live freeze.

imo this is a bad way to begin a part, just not my personal taste

the player can rocket and the other one grabs him from there

wrong marking of undeep sign

this part is really boring, nothing interesting

the yellow part put it as a unhookable, is a bit annoying have to jump

and idk why the top part has to be that long haha

some parts dont even need cps, well most of the map dont need cps

$waiting

This map after i look around on it its just a messed up and boring map. I dont think i will work on it anymore bc im already made a better map. So if

wanna continue ill give the map to him. Goodluck

ok

Reworked parts

$change mappers FAIRUS

Upload it again

add top undeep-unlive

$reset

Add flowers

there is a way to transfer the leadership here? I mean raks was the one who submitted the map and he is no longer one of the mapper, so when FARIUS upload a new fix a tester has to press the check button

I already tried with change mapper

I am only responsible for the

and

command, the testers know the other commands much better than me

Okay thx

Should be fine now, hopefully

upload the map again

oK

Works, thx

Add more flowers

you dont need so many ctos, the map is team forced

also i dont think team forced is good on the map

those ht arent needed

the gore there doesnt make much sense, like feels out of place, maybe you should start with it and make it a bit longer, then proceed to do the throwing

no need for this ht neither

still able to hook from here while the other player rocket himself

nothings change here, still really boring

you shouldnt put switches on the map to force simple ways, on this case is better if u do something "natural"

also the map feels a bit unbalanced

you have this fly 2 times, at least do something different

like longer and with obstacles on the side idk

the solo doesnt make sense

$waiting

You need to put everything in design thats not gameplay related into HD (except for the logo)

hookable here would be very nice since the other person has to wait anyway

u need to have wayyyy more contrast with the tele !

also freeze in tele at the same place

it should be tp40 here right?

dont see the need for the switch 4 here

• isnt the other switch useless as well? one needs to keep the laser so not both will go left, making the switch unnecessary

skippable

tele in freeze (gotta keep it consistent)

thats a bit boring x)

• i dont the need for teamforce in this kind of map

stoppers here?

delete unused space

not fixed

still majorly the same

gameplay is not spectacular but decent enough for potential rls i guess

$waiting

Random updates yey

I agree with texnonik

Please provide a description of the changes

Otherwise it'd be the same as if I were to decline your map without explanation

^

The map is impossible to play with the design

Here is an example of how it could be

Remove the outline of your logo and scale it down (with proper values: could be able 512*256)

Are you fully using every tileset ? (such as amazing_freeze)

Scale down narcissus_yellow (divide by 2 or 4)

You should greyscale fx_blocks so it weighs less

I would try to change it to white color if size of this logo is big , even ceperate image and color it in game with different color .

Sure but right now the outline looks like an artifact

Either add a good outline or none at all

The sound is barely noticeable

Did you use the smallest bitrate possible ?

Many unused envelopes (green envelopes)

It should be mentioned somewhere that it's a 2p teamlocked map

add turn off entities sign please

i like the gameplay

idk if this should be faily that late in the map but up to you

Why would you place a time cp so early in the map ? Try to place them where both tees meet

Time cp 2 could be time cp 1

Why won't you map it so the laser is forced to go down (without having to say it)

It's teamlocked, why would you need multiple totele 36 ?

The unfreeze on the ground is useless

32, 33, 40, 35, 36, 37, 1

Please place the teleports in order

Useless unfreeze again

Why add shields there ?

Why place weapon tele ? Flatten the ground so you don't have to use it, keep it simple

What happened to the telecps ? Do you even need those blockers ?

I don't see how the endless is important here

I see you often use falling down columns. Try to do something else

What's telecp 8 for ? You could place a normal tele and give cp 9 after. That would help avoid entity spam. Stack the tele cps and time cps

Why is the time cp mid air ?

Only 1 totele, no unfreeze ?

Tele cp 10 isn't needed. You could simply use a normal teleport there

You needn't you blockers every single time. That one blocker could be removed

What's the point of that unfreeze ?

You could remove the tele cp at the entrance (at the top). Time cp 10 and 11 are too close to one another

Normal tele and telecp ??

Why would you add a door ? Place the undeep closer to the left to people don't miss it. Moreover, make it so the other tee has to play right after that to avoid confusion and fail

The telecp isn't well placed

Awkward gap (blockers)

I didn't test the design; besides what I mentioned before; as it's currently impossible to look at it

$waiting

Reworked parts and change logo

$reset

It won't reset D:

As i told you the map doesn't need team forced, and i think knuski pointed too, you sure you want to keep it like that?

NO NEED for speed here

just put unfreeze on the cto/to pls check every one of them because some dont have unfreeze

i already told you 3 times, the solo is useless

with the livefreeze was more interesting than this

also i dont see the point of using the point on using the live freeze here you could just have the same result without it, but ig is okay

i found that the switches are pointless too

the whole map is on HD

you should allow to the player to restart the if he fucks ups with hook for whatever reason (dont use switch tho)

you dont need to put it with tele, with freeze would have another touch

btw laser blockers dont need to be marked, also 1 switch puller is okay, i think

you can use switch_open (X), this allow you to use just 1 activate switch with a timer of 1 second, you have to use it for whatever switch you consider it has to be used

$waiting

add new logo and fix parts ^

^

U put everything gameplay related into HD xd

• please delete the teamforce. i dont see any need for a teamforce on this map

tele is still too dark

people could let the ones with sg go up, making future parts skippable

There are a lot of unused envelopes on this map

grass bug

here u spam stoppers, other places u dont

getting in here mistakenly is still too punishing

here is not a random unhook and hook. Looks bad

$waiting

rework part and fix ^

THE OLDER version was way better, now is like weird cus you can hook him where 1 is. Also idk whats the point of the stoppers there (red)

unfreeze here

with 1 is enough

do you agree on 2*?¿

should be fine

ok

$waiting

Fix ^

i forgot to mention this, delete some tele below and move the cp to the right, looks weird they way it is

fix

fixed skip totele 5

just use 1 unfreeze marking

flowers should have more Alpha

besides you dont have to mark every unfreeze, just the really important ones, that directly impact the gameplay

2 things: 1.- you dont have music on the map so delete that 2.-The moon and the fog have to be on HD

the marking is really bad here

is possible that when you jump you dont go inside of the stopper and therefore you die

your marking is not consistent

this is quite boring, thats why i told you tu use freeze instead of the teles

i meat smth like this

of you can improve it and test it

1) one puller is enough 2) close this

you have to play with this switch, due you use open switch you have to touch the activate switch first, if you dont the player will get drag every time

$waiting

and pls check for entities bug

Fix ^

signs still different

here you dont need cp

when i pointed this i thought you going to do it as all the stopper (with a freeze tile behind)... well you should put the freeze tile behind them and just put 1 or 2 instead the spam of it

just put 1 in the middle

you can do it on photoshop by adding the design on the middle of the line

with this

there you can play with it and learn how to edit the mappres

the marking on this still bad

WRONG MARKING

at least let them fly, here you can just jump from the right xd

i'v been talking discussing about the balance of the map, and some parts were harder than others so you have to make some of them a bit harder

for example this

maybe smth like this, but then the first player would have problems, so idk how you could do it

here more of the same, is quite boring maybe with some tele idk

maybe you could start the gores from here

again wrong marking, you dont need to mark this unfreeze, as i told you you have to mark the unfreeze when is really important and impact directly with the gameplay. This freeze is not more relevant than

this one

$waiting

https://i.imgur.com/dwpoPrL.png

is way better to do it on photoshop, thats why i didnt mention that

rework parts

^

$waiting

different stoppers

everywhere

this still a problem

you have to play with that tile

the hooktru could be full white but with 60 on alpha

and the unhook could be this one #733F42

the rest idk

$waiting

delte cp

not fixed

remove that to avoid blockiness

I have already mentioned this multiple times, but I'll reiterate it one last time. Please thoroughly check the entire map for consistency. Every sign should be consistent with each other.

same with the stoppers

more than hard, now is just bad xd imo

the tele is a bit useless because no matter what you dont even have to touch the ground to do the part

this doesnt feel right, make the gores a bit longer maybe, and the solo should not going

Error log in the attached file

Error log in the attached file

im bored of telling you about the tiles behind the stoppers, every sing has to be consistent

And by the way, the contrast is horrible you cant see the freeze tile on the undeep. If you take a look at the screenshot I sent, you'll notice that only the grass in the background has been changed, not the main one.

☑️ missing

here you can just jump

again.....

this dont fit, find another way to save the player if you miss the hook

too tight

$waiting

$reset

$waiting

$reset

From the screenshot, it seems to still be unplayable with the design

$waiting

вот пример как приблезительно лучше будет выглядить ( приемлимо ) Thanks

this is currently annoying, since its moderate i would move it 1 to the left or right to make it a bit easier to hit the hammer

mark here where the guy with laser have to go

otherwise good gameplay, i really like it

but your map is still not playable with your current design

it would be, if you change it like this:

1. 2 decor > gras bg > change colors to 220/120/120

2. change freeze transparency to 70

this would be fine for me if you wanna keep with your current design 🙂

$waiting

this marked part is cheatable now. both can jump in on the left side and skip the shields

what is this gap for? its marked with freeze

i would stick here to the unfreeze marks you used the whole map over. no need to change now - also the others marks looked better than this 1/4 mark tiles xD

gametiles bug

map should be rdy after this fixes 🙂

$waiting

$ready 4

$optimize

Still can't see anything

$reset

thats totally fine

while playing i can see a difference

It's fine not to be able to play without entities on ?

Of course you can where there is freeze

i played without i found it good like it is

The contrast needs a change

I've been asking the mapper to fix it forever

i told him how to fix it, he did

It's not enough

but if your not fine with it he needs to change it again^^ i think its fine

The leaves aren't properly placed

maybe like this?

i also cant see anything while playing 😮

also changed hook color little bit, looks for me like HT in orignial version

if u want to change it like this here are the colors

in a map open for t0 you should have at least 2x totele, everywhere where it is needed

there is no need for a switch off, u can just use the command : switch_open (the number u want to deactivate by default)

bad entities off placement

unfreeze missing

no need to mark cp there

add speedup there

use entities off only for important things

u used often for useless things, remove the useless signs pls

example :

looks bad, i would move the sun into the mid or make the platform 4 tiles big

why using different freeze design there? its just 1 time in the whole map

would also use there just 1 sign

$waiting

I’ve been telling this for all along, idk why

Doesn’t read

Good job, it finally looks playable 😄

but the little holes look a bit bright no?

was to lazy to change background

fix ^ change color "grass" "hook" "grass bg" "jm bg"

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1078412102663946341/1121145058817753240

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1078412102663946341/1121144700187975891

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1078412102663946341/1121147648909521060

$waiting

Read carefully all the points again

If something is unclear, just ask

Rework part

this part feels too hard

part cheatable

first part feels also a bit too hard compared to the rest of the map

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1078412102663946341/1121144700187975891

missing background

no need to turn off 3 , u can use this command : switch_open 3

$waiting

Mapper dead?

stop spamming

are you alive at still???????

let him cook, it's not easy to fix it (should be take about 5min to fix it)

He's doing something else in those 5 minutes

i bet after archive he submit instant again without fixes

Hey bro, check out this client:

"idk why It was removed from testing"

rework and fix parts

😎

there is still switch off in this map

explained often enough how it should be done

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1078412102663946341/1121144700187975891

wrong signs

part cheatable if both go in

it looks weird for all spots in the map where u used black inside (looks weird bcs its full 255)

used ! for nothing important

wrong sign

$waiting

🥶

Meet here next month

Aight

sleep again

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/342454474117218334/1135332656498880613/scripulous-fingore-mario.gif

Rework parts and fix parts Thx to NeZoX

Fake news?

that dirst is hard to see

just leave that symbol

this looks weird

a bit brighter

looks simple, but may be to hard for moderates players

maybe if is upside down could look easier

gj

now the map is releasable

havent found for bugs, so take a look again

$waiting

My reaction on update with out knowing what has been changed

as I said it would be better if this part was flipped so is easier to just go up

is that better?

Just Read again what I said pls

Very cool desing, good job! although the hookable blocks looks too purple/dark, a redish colour would look way better. I tried this (E64646FF), see how it looks. I would also suggest make the ht (the V parameter and alpha) 125 or tweak it yourself a bit, looks too dark.

these are missing

this drag isn't 100% unless you hook very far right or am i doing something wrong?

overall I enjoyed the map!

u can delete this unfreez design its dont important

here also

Here cp24 unnecessary

xD? looks like random mark

dont marked

also this speedup dont need

this unnecessary

remove cp25 here xD

Search for similar places and remove all unnecessary unfreez design

Its all

gl

personally theres no reason to delete "unnecessary" unfreeze designs

In some places it is there and in some it is not, that is why I emphasize this, it can add to those places where it does not have an unfreez design or remove those places that I mentioned above

It's not that important, so I think you can leave it as it is for now

The teles could have been in order at least

It's a mess to test

You can fail if both go left, it's not even marked

This is kind of pointless

You can fail there

If the tee down goes in tele

Reminder: 3*

The map isn't faily, quite easy, a bit long and includes a rocket fly

Fix everything that has been written

$waiting

Also, the design is looking much better now

skipable full part if player with shootgun go up

easy faily

remove one frezee

$ready

$ready

I think now im scared about this

FAIRUS is ||dead?||

don't like this pe**s at start of map

aoa

update

You are using many, many corners handling here, please unify them

?

freeze tiles not the same / There are two places left that don't even have unfreeze tiles.

🤔

[suggestion] Unfreeze

[suggestion] symbolize

unfreeze?

unfreeze

unfreeze

unfreeze

Very interesting map👍

$waiting

Interesting how it changed since i tested it .

Raks return for a limited time

Over one year already where this channel started damn

hey

||Has FAIRUS flown out of the solar system and lost contact with Earth?||

well now it's officially 1 year in testing 🎉

if you have problems with fixing, dm me

I'm alive

$reset

Your map was scheduled to be archived due to inactivity, please let me know if you're still interested on working on the map anytime soon.

update

all fine now i think, finaly

$ready

First ready set by Trial Tester. It needs to be tested again by an official tester before fully evaluated.

put 2 spawn on first coke screen

not the best, but why not using stoppers, but at least make the freeze symetrical

using cp is useless, normal tele is better. only 1 spawn because it's 1 player down 1 player up.

why is a cto 12 here ??? no cp or teleport for it respect the structure, in all the map it's straigh freeze, so dont put freeze like this.

they is not a single telegun in the map, this part could be mapped without, like a platform where you need to SG.

avoid using too much stoppers, here one stopper can be replace with HT relief

same here, create a hole so you can hook him up instead of stoppers

and maybe give more space to move here, it's more confortable

same here, create a hole instead of stoppers + 1 useless stopper

good way to give the setup with the tele, but maybe a bit more left for qol

a good grenade goes instant in the freeze, 2 solution: -no freeze up here or more space

give more space for a normal jump, so you dont need to use the refillable just for a swing

1 spawn only

you have freeze and no freeze zone in the same stoppers, anyway i would not put stoppers here and let the tee react with a jump left and if dont want a failly spot for the next part (if he fall wall) then move the ground a bit more right

$waiting

• i dont have good skills in design, but it need a better optimization

update

turn off entities sign here

good map

addet turn off entities

Include a changelog after uploading map updates (preferably with screenshots).

$optimize

$ready let's see what testers will say . Good map easy , clean , simple and fun to play .

First ready set by Trial Tester. It needs to be tested again by an official tester before fully evaluated.

dfq is this

pls change it

entities off missing

I couldn’t complete the testing btw

shame on you

https://tenor.com/view/sadgecry-bttv-twitch-gif-22954193

AFTEr you fix the issues above the map is ready

Include a changelog after uploading map updates (preferably with screenshots).

for your next maps keep this in mind, is not necessary to use unfreeze below the to/cto tele just a unfreze inside of this too should be enough 🙂

$optimize

1.-there are a lot of unhook tiles that arent with the unhook entities, even if is not gameplay related it should be representing what they are 2.- You could delete this

teleport is not needed, with a hook through is enough

The testing takes so long because he doesn't understand a lot of things, does a lot of things wrong or simply forgets. I would pay close attention to everything with this mapper so that you don't have these problems in the future

ye ik i've been testing this map since day 1 xd