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based on the preview its pretty good(i only looked at the start)

wait a minute this isnt starkiller..

copy pasta

Hello wee :0, thank you for submitting your map! The preview looked nice and as I took a test on your map, I could definitely see some interesting stuff. However I noticed following issue in your map.

These are 3 types of parts in your map and all the parts in that type are really similar to each other, which makes the gameplay feel repetitive and leads to a decrease of the fun factor. You could improve those parts by trying to come up with different ideas to make your parts feel unique in comparison to each other part.

There are definitely interesting parts, but in my opinion some of them could be improved to create more fluent and smooth gameplay. I will add screenshots to show where you could make the parts more intuitive and where you could optimize them more.

I have to mention that I didn't test the transition to part 1 after startline yet, as I tested the map with my dummy. So I can't share my experience on that one yet.

This whole area feels like a long transition part into the map and in my opinion the area around tele 1 could be improved by adding another part there instead of the gores (maybe some more interesting part to undeep the player). The transition to tele 2 doesn't feel bad. The reason why I marked everything until tele 2 is, because the solo swings/gores already stacked up since the noobfilter.

Thats why I would only rework following area:

I don't know if played the beginning as you intended it to be. It felt unintuitive to play this part and as I kinda figured out a way of how I would do it, it was still not really comfortable getting through the 1st half of it. Also after the dummy lies down on the 1tile, the jump off the plat felt weird, as I had to stop before hooking. That applies as well to the last hook into hammerfly.

I'm gonna fall through that tele edge and land on the block myself 100% if I ever even try this map

2 issues I occured while doing that part. They happen quite often to me

You already added switch_open 1 for another part. This can be applied here as well to remove the switches within the CP.

I suggest to give this area a little more space to make it feel better flying to the wall. there could also be more space upwards.

Solo tiles are not really needed here and I would suggest to remove them. You could probably add unfreeze on the floor after the jump at the end.

I would suggest to add more unhook tile below cto18. The first hook of the part would seem to be better and there would be 1 more tile to time the laser. Also I suggest removing these 2 teleports to make the hook feel nice.

That is what I noticed so far and I hope you could improved certain spots and rework the areas I mentioned. In my opinion the map could be longer as well.. but thats up on you.

I want to mention some parts which I think are nice. And maybe you could come up with some more parts in that direction to get inspiration what you could do to rework the areas.

I don't think it is bad but it as I mentioned an issue here earlier, it could be better. And something else in that direction could be cool.

Cool filler :D

I especially like the swing into the hook.

This part also feels fun.

I forgot to add this. This felt unintuitive for me as well and I can't tell if that's the exact way it was intended to be. It felt being the most convenient tho.

They are floating xd

This should marked in entities.

I briefly looked for design/entity bugs, but haven't found stuff to mention yet, as there has to be done a lot changes before doing that.

I hope you can relate to the feedback and critique I provided and that you could come up with good changes for the next version. Take your time for each part you are reworking, to make sure they will contain some cool gameplay and aren't too similar to those other parts anymore :D

I will put this map to waiting for mapper for now, but you can let me know if you need more time to rework, so you could resubmit it another time.

Map channel has been moved to waiting mapper.

Thank you

for the feedback, already see something i've never saw when the map was tested! See some space for improvment and already see a few ideas i could use, gonna work on it.

Awesome, I‘m glad that my testing helped you :D

I didn’t have a look at the map but telling from what is to be seen in this channel it really looks heavily inspired by Starkiller‘s mapping style (part structure + design) which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Generally speaking I‘d like to advise you to try to find your own style in mapping for the future though as this mostly leads to better maps and to more fun while mapping. The design could use some more contrast

I couldn't understand why there is checkpoint 5 here

I think the checkpoint line as in the second screenshot looks neater, checkpoint lines as in the first screenshot are found in several parts

i think you can use TO teleports in places like this to make it look a little cleaner

there are a lot of shields (not only in this place), their number can be reduced

Good feedback, wondering if cp7/8 could be totele.

this part might look better for those who play without design, also i think it needs an exit from solo part

I think this part could be better if done this way, however this is just my vision, but I want to share it with the author

I also want to share that one of the good testers told me that 1 tile wide holes are not very good

Yea mostly it isn‘t, also because of blocking each other in a tight spot. I think its not too bad here as it also is teamforced.

this is my first test where i write some feedback, i liked the map, however it needs some improvements in terms of gameplay and cleanliness. i would also like to note that the design needs more contrast, some tiles are hard to distinguish

Include a changelog alongside your map updates (preferably with screenshots).

almost everything ive changed on the screenshots, exclude of small changes

Thanks for changes, I would still rework one of those parts as they appear 3 times in your map which is not even that long as well.

Honestly, I don't like that you can't choose who is doing the next part, because that is kinda random who gets it in the run.

As of now, this part is way harder and longer than anything else in your map and you should find a better balance there.

This part could and should be improved more and it would be better if you add the use of laser in this part. I would still suggest to rework the whole part as such parts have been mapped many times already and you should create some more unique gameplay.

Actually, I would rework 2 of those parts as they literally contain the same gameplay as the first part already. Please take in mind, that this feels really repetitive right now and your map would just improve in quality by having more different parts than 3 of the same.

Last thing for now so you can take some more time into reworking. 2p forced maps shouldn't have a noobfilter apparently. This is very much on topic right now and this would appear to all 2p forced maps. You can rework the start area how you like it, but without the noobfilter.

Also I already noticed some entity bugs like here. Please take a look again when uploading next time. You can go through your map with

to spot entity bugs very fast. It helps to put Quads and high details off

Map channel has been moved to waiting mapper.

Killtiles should be more visible in design.

bad place for dj

You could probably do only tele or cp tele. Also the spawn is really bad there atm. I can't really jump into unfreeze when I spawn, because I will have to move first. But you should better rework this part anyway as already mentioned.

Jump seems really hard rn

I still think 1 more tile would make the it better

This doesn't feel too thought through right now. Please change it as it doesn't work great.

use switch_open setting here

This doesn't work too great right now. Im always hiting last tele tile. Also you cant to back if the bottom guy got through.

Also it can happen that the bottom guy is stuck in the stopper and its also gg

The drag doesn't feel challenging, you should improve it. Also you can "cheat" the end by dragging a through.

You don't need to hurry changing it^^ Take a few days to get some good changes.

noticed that at the beginning of the map, the top player will get deeped after he has done 2hooks in the map and the player below is doing a lot more than him... it would be nice if you added one more part after that to even out how much gameplay both players do in the run

You should take this advice for all other parts as well and make sure that both the parts are equal in difficulty and not that one player could get dragged through by doing the easier parts.

This one didn't feel too nice yet. It would be easier to use dj here, but people would avoid that.

Include a changelog alongside your map updates (preferably with screenshots).

A lot of changes, probably will not include screenshots. Main changes: 1) Basically fixed everything said above(almost) 2) +1 part, a few changed(annoying, repetative parts) 3) Design changes, better contrast(maybe, should be) 4) Tp sequence is restored for better understanding 5) No noobfilter now, changed starting place And a lot of small changes.

I checked few parts 1 it will better if u move start to map and connect. 2 the first part is too long with just hammer hit between aleds, I think you can keep the two aleds, just reduce the space in the whole part by 50%

red and blue: this swap so weird, u need avoid that and ur map will be more readable and clear. purple: undeep is super hide, better move it here. Ofc care about skip if both undeep it is skippable. Bottom line: connections between parts are not good.

The other problem is imbalance. red way is easer then blue

please put the line teleport completely so that it is not possible to teleport to the previous checkpoint without updating the previous one

use tele from-to in this circumstance

both players can go to TP 2 and skip part

you forgot to put undeep tile

Include a changelog alongside your map updates (preferably with screenshots).

fixed above

why the tune zone message ? - it's unneccessary because it gets printed anyway. i personally just dont like the design the way it is now, it looks messy, like you set up automapper and forgot about it.

the gameplay itself is okayish, but it doesnt really feel "hard", it's more that i feel like the parts are trying to be hard but actually arent. it just feels unbalanced - some parts are faily with an actual difficulty - some are unfaily with a single edgehook.

overall i didnt like the playthrough, it fels like i was jumping between 2 moderate and 5 brutal

imo these 2 parts are quite good (and the only creative parts)

the map is really unbalanced as mentioned above

also try to be more creative with design instead of trying to copy a certain mapper

also the structure of the map is quite inconsistant and somewhat messy

try to stick to 1 style

this part is decent aswell but annoying to play

I am not a tester, but I tested the map with friends and alone, we also agreed that the map is very imbalanced, some parts are much easier than others, personally it seems to me that this is because you were inspired by other authors and made a very similar one, so some moments can be objectively difficult, and some, on the contrary, too easy. Now I am also developing my own map and I understand that it is quite difficult to find a balance, I advise you to play the map with friends of different levels of play, this helps me to identify imbalance

We did an internal vote that fell onto the decision that it's better for you and us that you take the feedback from this and rethink the map the way it is now. keeping it in testing would approximately take a very long time and it's better to not feel pressured by having this in here.

you have some interesting parts, most of them were mentioned by I.K.U, and i think we can all agree that you seem like a talented mapper and we're sure you can do something great in the future. Sadly this map feels and looks like you tried to copy a certain existing style which just doesnt fit into the current structure we see fit for DDNet and this map in particular.

if you have any more questions about our decision, or need any help. please feel free to reach out to us in here or

and we're all more than happy to help you.

Your map submission has been declined.

you can also write me a private message, I also suffered from my map being rejected and could share my experience with you if needed

I absolutely agree with decision, actually was about to do it by myself, so im feeling kinda free now. Since this is my first map, didn’t expect much and just wanted to see how you, testers, evaluate maps, map evaluation criteria and get myself as much mapping experience as possible. The only shame is that I just realized today which parts I don't like and feel too easy after melon and I.K.U ​​pointed this out and have already started reworking them in a way that fits with the rest of the gameplay. I'm not giving up, I'm not upset. Gonna take my time and rework it in more thoughtful way. Thank you everyone who took the time to test!

if you get the map in a state where you're fully happy with - feel free to resubmit it and we'll take a look again :)

Might also not be bad if you made the map longer