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only 2nd part and its really messy

try to look for cool moves using simple layouts instead of tight stuff like this

btw u can just do sv_hit 0 in the map settings instead of putting no-hammer tiles around spawn

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/845668474872397856/884686789183418368/Base_Profile_2021.09.07_-_14.20.10.04.DVR_Trim.mp4

look messy because i think about many cheat way on this part and try to avoid that

this part can only pass with 2way now，another way is quite hard so i just ignore it

fix some other skip 😦

move totelecp2 more < so u can instant hook your dummy up to ht. other way is just time waste, not rlly a challenge and just annoying

whole part compare to whole map is rlly rlly bad mapped. ist just tight tele, also ht at start is not that usefull (also a reason to move totele more left) u should remap the part tbh

dont get this hookblocker. whole edge is useless at all since skipping it is much easier, faster and has more flow

what is this entities off for?

most parts were rlly cool and have a nice flow. after i played cp2 i thougth whole map is tight and annoying like this...but most other parts are nice to play and fun with a nice flow. but u should move whole tele at the ground more down. at some parts it becomes rlly tight and annoying. probably it will take some time to move the ground tele in parts down but i think its worth since it will raise the gameplay

oops, forgot this one: add a new group and set pos x to 16. the hookblockertile will be in mid then in uneven shadows (like there in the 4 tile shadow)

im not going to change this part for some reason

i also noted that skip just now，ill find a way to stop that skip，if cant then i remove this corner

forget to remove after changes

thanks for this one

just remove the corner and hookblocker, its useless

reason for the hookblocker here? seems useless + corner bugs (u can just make the tele higher)

agree with louis and starkiller, u have to remap the second part

in 2p maps u can set the to teles on the ground

also u can remove hammer off at the start and add a new command : sv_hit 0

louis said it already but u missed it

will player able to smash again at last part if sv_hit 0？

use hookfly at the end ⬆️

edit this part, ht like this useless and the right hook a bit annoying

will be 100% better when u do it like in the picture

no， for real

this part right side what i hope player to do is jump hook inside that thing，if no jump the angle will be a little and more hard

test it, its way better

moon => HD

corner

part 2 must change or just suggest me to change？i really want to keep

must

doesnt fit with the map

fine

u can rework it

tbh dont want rework that :(

u have to, its cool map but this second part too bad and annoying

idk about the corners here, do it how u like it

imo those thing + corner abit ugly for me so i just leave it，but some place i forget

ok take your time and fix everything this time

all the pic you send i have review again and do some changes, if no changes at where you ping means that is ok for my weird esthetic

include part 2

i didnt touch on sv_hit 0 btw

wait forget something

ill update again in few min

im not done with the test

weird time cp placing in every part, move it to the tele cp

to where?

not even hookfly needed at the end xd its a solo jump

into the normal cp

cant get it

i mean i dont understand

the end ill make it higher i guess

put the time cp into the normal cp

i change my word, what do you mean normal cp

sorry for bad understanding

normal cp = the cp26

time cp = the unfilled black numbers

ohhh you mean that thing

understood

look at every point and take ur time

u forgot 80%

xd

$waiting

xd man dont rush you, take ur time

i got time now XD

so just do it

why? just close the corner and remove hookblocker xd and this stopper, part was fine

forgot again so much things

check whole map and the screens again

$waiting

you mean the corner?

no

other things

and its not a part rework when u add 1 more ht

xdddd

this?

yes u forgot this and second part

this i choose to leave it like that

then u not even tested my suggestion

it feels way better, but u cant feel it when ur not testing it

tested but i still want it like that sorry

sorry for upload it so many times

this is what i hope btw

and for what the hook blocker?

still useless

and u know that u can cheat this step? lay the dummy on the edge

how? they need to keep the dj and use when falling down there, hard to pull off and rehook when falling without dj

i just said its cheatable

not how hard

if they got that skill i wont stop them because this cheat i know when i start to do this and already do something to anti cheat here

but the real question was : for what hook blocker

hook blocker no need exist i know, but i want they notice that they can hook inside the hookblocker if they dont know before, the last part of the map i no need to put the tips already if they know

ok

https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/885655783604371537/885860450611388416

part 2 still the same

part 2 what problem for now, i didnt get it

i add an extra hook t so they no need to swing again

wait something wrong

yes

not even this tested

oh boy

only weak hook can no need swing

lol

u have to check the map again

strong will have same problem

look at all pics

and test ur changes b4 uploading

tested this part with only weak hook, mybad

maybe you don't mean it because you don't know better, but for me it comes across as if you just want to fix the map quickly and you don't really care what testers say -> you can see that you forget 80% of the 'bugs'. it's also cheeky towards testers to constantly have such errors, we have to check every time again if everything has been done. so for the last time, read everything carefully, fix the map, read everything again and check the map again. if there's nothing more then you can post it again

$waiting

i told him to fix it already before accepting ...

i hope this is my last time update this

relatable map name

2nd part now confirm strong and weak both can swing up now and i clear those tele now

for the part that might having issue on ground too high easy touch tele, i make the ground lower

but not for this part, intended to let player play around the falling timing

then i realise i didnt upload the correct new one after i play in test server

real dumb

https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/885655783604371537/885866269155405854

remove hammer off and add this command : sv_hit 0

as i said b4

what does HD means

and i also mention i didnt want them to hookfly at the last part so i decide not to use sv_hit 0

what happen to this corner? the color is correct isnt?

but why? its a 3 hit hf xdd

command makes it more clean

hookfly is so dumb for some dummy player that only know drag

like me

its not even a hookfly

u have to throw

its enough

then what is HD

and also that corner

really dont know

upper corner have different and better design

use it too there

this?

and again, its a team force map.. u can set all to teles on the ground

honest, actually i dont know why need to be on air, saw other do that so i just follow and didnt know the reason

ill fix that in few min

in air bcs team 0 and bounce

u used different 1/2 freeze, maybe use the green one in the whole map

extra question, what do this "detail" means

it means HD

whats the difference

resolution?

when u turn this off, all hd things off

for ppl with bad pc

all decorations -> HD

oh

get it

the reason i didnt make all same like green one its because some might having issue on hitbox express

yes use the better 1/2 freeze

not the shit one

old one like this can?

with no corner

red = bad, never use it, green = if u want 1/2 freeze for better looking, use this

on the ground doesnt matter

but the ones that u can touch

btw u have 2 unused images

noted

then can i just make end higher to keep the hammer?

make it lower again

or leave it and add the command

and remove hammer off xd

yes its ok like it is

just remove hammer off and add the command

still bad 1/2 freeze in

which

should i screen all wrong freeze things?

i mean

i didnt get your problem

when u play with design

in the better freeze u can walk half way in

the bad 1/2 freeze not

like this is bad?

as I said, use the ones you want, but all should be the same

i prefer the one with little corner like i marked

cant get it, play with entities for a long times so didnt understand which is better for you guys

problem is as i said u used different designs

wait maybe i get it

https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/885655783604371537/886651563031015506

u can use the red one too, but then in the whole map

but its very outdated and bad

hope i get what you trying to say

you can skip 1 left jump still

yes i know, i fail to fix this and just let it be like this, they can skip if they want to take this risk on the run

even it is easy for some

second part still bad

replace it with a new part

could this look better ?

👍

also start and finish make triangles at corners ?

same blocks ( aimed where )

2 tiles in one tile

where is logo

no logo

$waiting

head or middle of the part?

or both bad?

Change all 2nd part

Create new part from 0

forget to save

added logo

looks better for me so i didnt change

ok

u should put less alpha on the ht

alpha?

in there

oh

i did it now

k

$optimize

$edit --shrink-layers

what about that

eh

i though i fixed

dumb again sorry

ok this time confirm got save before upload

make floors lower its very annoying to play with a very high floor

unbalanced part make it easier

and i recognize that starting move from somewhere

whats the point of those stoppers? doesnt seem to do anything

and you should attempt to improve the design of the map, it's pretty rudimentary atm

otherwise its not a bad map, im sure people will enjoy playing it as many people like this style of map

$waiting

i can only make 1 block lower

left one is to antiedge stand, right one is to avoid a skip

u can still edge on it however

i guess it's a bit harder

but i didn't know about the right one to avoid a skip. however it makes it seem like u have to use the stopper for the part, which isn't a good thing because people will get confused. maybe try to prevent the skip using a block or a tele instead?

yes they can use it

ye but u dont need it for the part right?

depend

more easy if use

this part can i know the unbalanced place?

a little annoying to hit the top teles there

and the last hook is hard

maybe close it like that with a tele plus the ht that are you going to add

no thanks

will it help if i put stoper here?

i meant the other teles

the one to the left of that

i know, what i mean is will it help if you can just hold d? if no then i change the tele

nah i think i just change it anyway

try to aviod other do a skip so i add this

Looks like you’re heavily inspired by lumine

Thats wat i thought xd

noted

will upload new one after you done your test and all ok

my last changes on the map i guess if no other problem

Next time do these changes b4 submit 😜

Test the parts over and over again and fix, change things etc. It's the normal way of mapping

k

u fine with the cheat now?

what about tele here? feels good when u just have the stone right to stand

i tried a long time and its quite hard and waste time to edge that so im ok with that

ok

add ht here, like u did it in other parts

you're right

added

ops

just notice that it touch the top of the border in when entities off

can u try to make design better?

no clue how to do it sorry

i will do some quick changes to design later then

k

thanks

$waiting for new design

What u did again with the file size? Why +50kb again?

extra layer and images

Ah u added stars?

U can use stars with 0 kb

Looks like the same but whatever

the star that provide are in pair, dont know how to separate them

click at one red dot, then hold shift and move the mouse

u can add more doodads if u want (gears or smth its up to u)

i also changed how start and finish look

wow, thanks alot

i think its enough for me

wait i change the spawn a bit

still able to hook this

this little cheat saves time

would be cool if u could force this way, going back to build up speed and then go right and not just 1 hook like it is now

didnt need these hookthroughs

yes but quite waste time so i didnt make changes on it

this cheat someone mention before but same not easy to edge this to do the skip, if they want to use on speedrun it also waste alot of time to get perfect skip

if so delete the other hookblockers

i dont think its hard

can jump through this easily and save time

then i guess i make it longer, remove will become more easy

below the stopper? or over

between tele and stopper

u can bug through it

k i fix it

can skip the first hookthrough and save much time

can simply jump over it and rehook

can walk through dont need extra speed from ht

every hookblocker feels unnecessary in this part

can jump up there regardless of hookblockers

move totele more to the right

$waiting

lanterns should be behind tee imo

you hope it no need to rehook?

i guess i just leave it for those who need to adjust dummy placement, cant get too much speed by using the hookt to reach the tele, its about how late player hook

this ill also leave it

i said it so u dont need the rehook yea

lamp also moved behind tee

then i realise i make 2 different changes in 2 different file

logo blurry now

after the changes <

it is not designed to be that big 😄

fixed, and some other things

k thanks

imo u can remove the ht and the hookblocker

skipable

which skip? u dont even need speed there

if hookblocker removed

edge slow jump

then 1 more tele

that u cant edge there

true

lemme change it real quick

hookthrough ill keep it

there is no need for it

its just 1 rehook there, jump over and rehook again

no ht needed

yea i know

wait im gonna redo those tele

abit not smooth on this

its the known bug

already fixed but not in this tileset

i make this longer 2 block btw

yeah i change whole set

ok

U forgot again corner?

eh?

ah some corner i want to remove but forget

because it looks quite weird when corner on hookt

nah i guess just leave it all corner there, no corner also feel weird

both weird

bug

add corner here?

think again about this, it looks like there is something missing imo

$waiting

then i just change it

how do you set half entities btw

F1 > overlay_entities 50

Or ddnet tab and set it by hand

thanks

after insertkey show me other skip, i decided to make it unhook and 1 tele extend

I didn't need speed there either if that's what you mean, don't know what else to skip

It's also not a skip for me, a skip would be at the one part simply skipping platforms or something like this

This

anyway i just close it like what you suggest before

what he show me is so easy and i didnt hope other do that

not talking about stand on right side and jump back rehook

ok

put tele here?

bcs u can easy jump up right, left platform not even needed

k

$ready 5

congratulations ! 👍

hope rls soon

soon enough xd

👍 🥳

thanks

can i make some changes before release?

???

first part first hook abit annoying after i added that hookt (realise after try to run for a good time)

want to remove it

is this allow when the map is under ready status?

yes but it's not ready after posting the new map

Someone have to check this

ht removed, 1 block higher on the ground

corner removed (yes my weird aesthetics again)

ah wait my OCD

other same

sorry for changes

looks wrong now but ok

$ready 5

updated

thanks

:oo