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https://youtu.be/91zb1cvPpvs

woah

this guy must be fucking high. this map is EXTREMELY HARD and its the harderst dummy map ive ever seen. ill probably never beat it. but, i can tell its also LONG and very beautiful 🙂

how XDDDDDD

bro

i shouldve pinged you already to help me map lmao

(sr for thta ping)

holy shit nidardo map

Cool map!

Damn if even admin already says its cool this shouldnt even be tested at this point

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I think the stoppers at 5:30 are placed in the wrong direction (Design)

yes

map release speedrun dummy%

oh true, idk how i could not see it^^ thanks

killtile design bug?

nvm, u have this elsewhere as well

thinking that i saw this like a year ago.. insane

nice map. Delete Teleport and rls. I like

The hookable design isn't very intuitive and too similar to the unhookables.

i can see it

I think he means it's the color usually used for unhookable. btw here on testing was map which use grass(dirt) for unhookable, what is counterintuitive. so i agree with catseyenebulous, better change color.

• changed color of junglemain rbg:152 to rgb:145 (so now its a bit darker, but i wouldnt like to make it much darker cuz it would break the design imo)

• part cp16 is now harder/tighter

• fixed towerskip at the beginning

• replaced the edge with a stopper and optimized tiles

• part cp30 sg part optimized (changed sg position and cpto is moved lower so that the player can better acknowledge the killtiles)
• added stoppers for the grenadejump part

• design fix generally

Thanks so far for any play testing and feedback^^

• only some graphical stuff fixed here and removed dj

hint should be marked for entities too

suggestion:

this should be fixed, it's a huge skip which is not even hard

skip, can also save shotgun

should not represent "lost/give hook tile" imo

suggestion for stopper design, current version really doesn't fit imo

really easy to fail here if missed laser, not sure if it's fair enough

good idea, thanks

I think its not even faster but if someone did this then its deserved cuz imo its 100 times harder and u also need shotgun/dj etc. (maybe im waiting for n9 skip here hehe). But aslong there is no proof that someone actually did it, im not gonna change it

it's faster and easier

show me plss

ok i think i will make shields below

I will try this out

won't take more than 1 min

but you also need shotgun then

oh yea, i just found out how to get it

ok, nice try. let me fix it

i didn't notice that you need it in first place xd, if you take it away then okay i guess

generally it would take 2 minutes to do the parts inbound normal and the skip is almost about the same time it takes but higher risk+frustration+i want to see n9skip. Let see what testers will say about but I think skips arent allowed anyway

ty, I will try out^^

small skip

damn

how did you got dummy back without dj and without hitting the tele?

i forgot that you don't have dj but there is a way to get it, yes it becomes way harder

getting dummy is even harder, you can move it into tele while taking speed

you should move down the cto's where there is only a single person

and move 2p teles up by 1

maybe put some more tp

at this part you can just simply get the nade and do a double

(you dont need to shoot down)

i think you should move the sg back up

and you should place a speeder going right since the dummy might get on edge and it would be a fail

Ah I did the exact opposite after u told me. I will fix it tomorrow

Yeah I know, there are 2 ways how to do it but I wanted to showcase that shootdown thing

• all 2p totele are one block above ground
• all 1p totele are on the ground

• added shield to prevent "shotgun skip" from above
• found better tiles for "playertouch"

• removed stoppers
• added whole tele line for better puller performance
• I didnt changed stopperdesign cuz it wouldnt fit in the other parts especially when it is in tele

wa

• now I got it what

told me ingame, so ive fixed it

• added hints also for entities
• replaced shotgun up again
• fixed tiny skip for the grenade part

• added more tele
• added unendlesshook

• missed 2 1p toteles^^ now hopefully

• only tiny adjustments

• decided to make it unskippable just in case n9....
• put the "lost/give hook tile" out of way to minimize server messages

• improved freeze corners

• kill tiles 💀

If you have enough speed.... since shield collision I circular.....

Did u watched the part?

u might kidding cuz even without the shields its irrational to even try the skip

I admit I didn't

Just a up-nade to boost you onto the edge right?

No xd, there is no nade too

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I'm too stupid set

I think I should remove the shields again. They are only to prevent ppl going from left with shotgun which is already hard to get. And then they would need to do a tower on their dummy which is also hard.

towering is really not that hard

But u need shotgun and to go to the spot where u're already a few minutes in run if u're fast enough. It's inbound similar fast if u do it regular

It's insanely high risk for 4-5* dummy map

• changed "turn of entities" to arrows (only in entities)
• found a "skip" and fixed/optimized it, thanks to

• I'm grateful for anyone who helped with their feedback and testing so far^^ List is incomplete yet

I still experiment with the stopper design and maybe there will be another update for it if it works well enough with the other tiles. I dont see any things more to actual fix without feedback.

how to activate this puller :D?

u can skip 1 part by sg flying

can also do this

thanks for pointing it out, its from the preversion of the map and I forgot completely about it^^ fixed it for new update

• fixed the skip Knuski mentioned

sg skip here would'nt even be faster/easier so i did'nt changed it

this map is very nice, looks good, and looks like good gameplay

does gameplay looks good or it is good

looks good, might be a trap

Hey Nidardo, I tested your map and there is one important thing to point out.

From a tester perspective, I had a tough time testing your map, because I could notice some lack of quality basically in almost every part. The parts aren't bad, but sometimes they don't feel fully optimized and developed into its best state.

I wanna help you with that and point out some things which could be improved. There is some lack of convenience within the parts. It stutters in some areas and it would make it feel way more comfortable if you would play them again and notice+fix issues in every way possible to create the best version of each part. I'm mentioning some obvious things which I could see, but I would highly suggest you to play the parts again and take your time to make them playable without having flow breakers.

If you make the gameplay more convenient overall, the map would play a lot better on the 1st playthrough, which makes the players feel less frustrated on some parts. Some of them don't feel hard, but you can be stuck on them. because some tiles aren't placed in favor of the gameplay.

The 1st part wasn't really enjoyable, because of the specific throw every time. Following by the ground hammer which causes you to repeat it a few times and just a few other things.

Here would be an example how you could create more flow and make the part feel better. I replaced the switches with something else to avoid skips and have a cleaner look.

Honestly if you want to make your map as good as possible gameplay and quality wise, then you should come up with something different to get rid of special tiles like switches. On dummy maps switches are more likely to appear as a dragger to get the dummy back, but otherwise you should try to find another way of mapping without using them.

Also 1 switch here is enough and makes it look cleaner as well.

This isn't consistent and relies on too precise timing and movement.

Having the activate switch in cto is enough. You can remove the deactivate switches too.

Same thing for cp6. Also you gotta add the server command

to have them deactivated as default

Please look for other places where you could apply it.

Can be removed as you don't need to go back when you are through. Please look if there is another spot like that.

There could be a little bit more space, especially after the unfreeze.

The wall should be easier to hit

This area didn't play too well

The jump and the hook after felt clunky

The doublenade didn't work as often, because you lose speed if you don't touch the unfreeze right at the wall

This should be accessible more convenient.

Could be moved to have a bit more time.

Having to hook diagonally and start the sg fly makes it feel uncomfortable. Also it isn't really needed to get through. You could rework it a little bit and make it feel nice to play.

The part could be less clunky without the door switch. Sometimes the dummy gets stuck inside it as well.

I didn't point out every single spot which could be better, but I would highly appreciate it, if you take some time to look for spots which could be improved. There are some more where the part would feel better if the setup was better or if it had some other changes to it.

Liked the map overall, but some parts contain too many special tiles. And the hookthrough parts could be improved imo.

Map channel has been moved to waiting mapper.

Hey, thank you for testing and pointing out things in the map. I will work through it when I find the time again

This section looks really cool that way

Thank youu, sounds good :D Can send you the version if u want. didn't fix all of the design there tho