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yooo!

This part broke the flow for me a bit while playing. The dj under feels a bit uncomfortable to hit, and the first nade its also a bit uncomfortable (you need to hit right speed all the time xD sometimes i fly to high or i dont reach.

fully declined and erased from existance, no race maps

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You get lots of speed from the left here, having to suddenly stop in the middle with all the speed to hit the left wall its weird and messes up the flow. Try moving the middle unhook down and use it to launch urself upwards in a better flow with the speed from left.

You dont need hook here, and up there is 2 ways to hit the rocket, idk which way is ur intended way.

I keep hitting this, maybe move it 1 or 2 to the right. (This part very cool)

This part is very tight tex, it makes it annoying the tiny hook xD

This next part idk exactly the way u want it, idk if u need dj or not (bcs its both possible) but if u do need dj then i keep hitting that trying to keep dj to the left. Move it 2 or 3 to the right.

Okey, idk how to do this part xD

Looks like u want to use this to stop speed with rocket, but i didnt use it, u can just hook right and hold

Pretty cool, but you can do a better setup for this

uhm..... tex.... 2 start lines xD also yeah this should be solo not race :3 typo

I dont like that u use 2 times here same tech (stopping mid air with speed, atleast here it has better flow than the first one i mentioned) but maybe change one of these.

Logo animation is off, bullet doesnt pass through the middle of text (like this it looks off)

why it's should be solo ?

is this a map for multiple ppl

they dont do race maps in ddnet anymore so it should be solo

didnt they said they dont accept race maps anymore? and isnt race maps (only) rocket and unhook or hook? like no tele etc

i thinked no release for old maps or bad maps and short maps ( unique servers )

yah but still race dont have teles i think idk never played race maps only some and they all only had unhook and rocket no freeze no teles (testers will decide anyway)

🤷‍♂️

race maps are usually short and this should be in solo category

play grenadium ( ddnet race map)

nah, they just don't accept short race maps, so long maps have chance to came out

I've asked you about creating an "easy" grenade and long map I didn't though you will do it sooo fast hehehehe =]

I was making it some time ago and continue some time . I have a lot maps that I created and haven't finished . Today I also made short map for my server .

ahhh so me asking was just an coincidence still nice to see a race map ^^ will later check for design bugs =]

Not bad map, here what i found: 1 bad check points 6 tiels is too small platform, also so its annoying go to previous part after tp. 2 punishing good players this map is tight and its problem. if u do better part then mapper i will fail it. its is good when u punish player if he have not enough skill, but punishing players cus he doing better it is stupid. its hard change reflexes to down side. 3 movement in air i think some movement in air (for example first part) is just annoying why u dont give a freedom to player. 4 map dont have finish u forgot add finish.

look like u need rocket from here.

look like u need rocket from here.

this is bad check

usaless

i start use rcon from this bad. this part is super bad for me.

this is super annoying.

here is skip

so i think main issue for this map it is how u need force yourself play on medium skill from high. here is good example what i mean.

If you do this part too well and keep a good speed, your rocket will only go up to number 2 and you will fail. but if u have medium speed u do this so ez. and all map about it. almost on every part.

so i think u need to ask someone who is pro on rockets and look how he pass ur map. this map need so much polishing.

Thank you triki for repeating the exact same things i said xD

He is real tester, both feedback are useful

sorry didnt see ur feedback. i took it cus it really good example among many of them with same problem

im not.

No finish line btw

you have to find it

There isnt

find waldo

Did

what else you can do ?

changed all parts mentioned . changed start aswell . will fix bug later . ( don't want to spam )

I like this start. i think add more wall here will be better.

i still dont like 3 cp on 4 cp double rocket is just too boring

in not sure if u add this, but without this it was more creative part.

6 cp still feel tight without reason

7 cp dont wanna test) cus dont really understand i need start with double or not.

8 cp start is still anooying cus u back some times. also end is still tight for me.

also wanna more walls here

9 cp is perfect for me, maybe give a little move reaction time for each step but u can broke the part trying to fix that, so i think its is good at this point

10 feels to ez.

11 i know u add this cus wanna use dj but i dont like it

maybe u try do force dj this way? i think its better way, or u will find is better.

i know u add this cus wanna use dj but i dont like it or maybe im wrong and u wanna low rocket jump, thats why u add this, but i dont like low rocket jump mechanic.||i also dont like low double jump mechanic on 4 cp but i thibk its skip.||

also i dont like swing on 11 cus u dont know whot u need hook. and where u need use rocket .and this search process is pretty annoying.. ||maybe im too bad for this part||

12 cp maybe u will add smth like this?i dont like low rocket.

13 not sure but i think if u remove this it will be way better . not sure about skips. this part feels tight

14 i think u need add tile here

15 fine for me, 16 too

again this annoying movement on air( i pref move this for 2 tiels

18 swing is tight

19 is fine

i notice u removed 4 and 5 but u just need add +2 tiles on 5, and it will be fine. and i really like 5 one,so if u keep 5 u need 4 cus this part is teaching how 5 works. so basically its 21 cps map.

so ok thats all what i wanna say) gl with map.

no messages for a whole year thats crazy

Its not 2026 yet

he means 2024 was last messages and it's already 2025

1. Adding 1 tile here should make part a little more convenient
2. This part feels way harder than parts before/after, not even sure what is the intended way
3. You can easily make double strong enough to go above, i think unhook platform or more space should fix it
4. If you do rocket jump normally you just hit tele ceiling
5. I don't think it's intended way to complete part

accept it now so he can do easyright 4 😭

Mediumdown -7

I have other projects

mediumrighty

easyFESTIVITY 5

no

deesagree

thank you made cool new part

what ? what's problem ? hmmmm ?

have changed a lot stuff . i assume all stuff mentioned have been fixed , or changed . hopefully this version is better ! Look all parts again just to be sure , because there were a lot changes around all parts ( moving cp and logo many times )

problem is u removed good part from previous version

you didn't liked so i was changing it so i would like it again

Yeah, I didn't like it, but it's easy to fix, no? Okay, whatever you want,I realized you just deleted it and I was really upset because it was a really interesting part.

When Verdict

imo this is not race map, just like the grenadium_1 and should be moved to solo server. The parts are short and very tight so you cant play the map with big speed and have to slowdown in lot of places, otherwise u will hit teleport. this is killing the flow on whole map and cant be changed (or u have to restructure whole map which is unrealistically and not worth it imo, just change the server)

and maybe change bg color or do something with tele? its almost not visible on top of the screen

btw about solo server this is not only mine opinion, i heard the same from some top speedrunners on race maps

if u not against moving it to solo server and fix the bg / tele color i would ready it

Map channel has been moved to waiting mapper.

i agree too, its more solo

this part is really awkward since too good rocket jump at 1st block u get into tp and on the swing and double its very easy to do too good double

the rocket here is just annoying since you have to get so close to tp aswell

most parts are unfun cuz they are overly tight

and that makes it kinda unfun

but creative parts

and i aslo think it should be solo

(also the design is quite unplayable)

what ?

this nade

changed this part ( ye don't know why but it's hard to do ( now when i am trying again ) changed the part

made changes tele new color black changed parts above

nice 166.67 :/

ups didn't deleted part that i put just in case

i agree with the solo instead of race

New account 😞

Well then we have to change some race maps and put them in solo as well

why

the overhang above the second block here is too far down, sometimes i hit it when going too fast >

i dont think you should punish player for going fast

bad part imo, annoying to play and the left part of this is just tight for no reason

also the ceiling feels alittle low for the first nade jump

sometimes your parts punish players for having too fast/perfect nade, other times it requires a rly tight/perfect nade (cp14)

cp18 and cp19 are examples of where going too fast is punished (for example you can double nade on cp18 which i find a lot more fun, yet you can't go too fast or you hit tp

i mean yeah i believe we should do that anyways

a lot of race maps nowadays are just tight solo parts that happen to use only nade, there's nothing about it that screams 'race'

I was running again. i see huge problems with swings. every part where u need swing i feel smth like i cant play in full speed/skill. for example this swing

what a problem move for 5 tiles wall higher(but better longer) and for keep difficult move platform higher about 10-20 tiles. Swing is more comfortable and this mean you can reach higher. this way more pleasure for me.

I will share swings that I do not really like.

also next question why this type of walls soo small? in my mind length = cd rocket, if u can 2 times rocket same wall its bad, cus u can skip, otherwise u can increase leght, no?

also i agree with louis.

also can u remove this 4 tp tiles, but care with opening skip.

totelecp 5 move 2 tiles higher new part cp 11 new part cp 14 fixed cp 18 changed cp 19 ( no idea what you mean ) not it's little bit easyer do i look and fix at

mentions ? also change mapper

a

do i look and fix at @triki mentions ? its weird question, and weird ping

sry tired today , had a lot hard days ...

No idea why i did that

i feel so bad now after it .....

Sorry

lol man, chill, all fine) just continue ur map.

I am ill

changed cp 6 , cp 8 and cp 9 .

your account deleted?

plizz accept the changes

Testers ? ☑️

decline

i guess texnonik wants you to reset the map (it's in waiting rn)

im trying

the button in the thread does not work?

It will probably stay buggy because you changed your account.

i just wanted it to be deleted 😦

re-submit map?

map name ?

Oops

Nice catch

new map "texnonik"

maybe remove this?

you made a perfect loop

that not how the part is intended

idk, owner knows

Oh so double for skip , good idea

pls demo

pls demo

The important stuff has already been mentioned above.

Your parts need more space to work with. Right now they are put together in a bare minimum of space and feel really tight. Sometimes 1 move needs to be repeated 5 times because I hit the first tele of the part.

Some swings don't have enough space or I swing against the wall without keepin upspeed, because the swing is just not well mapped.

Please go through map again and make it comfortable to play. Imo way worse than the first version as it is right now.

cp7+13 are either just really bad set up and not tested after mapping. Or they must be 5* and still be bad mapped xd.

Can't make screenshots of all parts, but you should literally take a look at all the parts and make it enjoyable to play.

The parts aren't actually really hard... The tight space just makes me need to attempt it more often.

The easiest parts btw cp 7 and cp13 . But yea if for one is easy , it's doesn't mean that it is easy for others .

Send demo then xd

Because they are definitely the hardest

or join server, im there rn

I(melon) figured out how to do both of em. They don't really indicate how they are supposed to work xd

Anyway please also do something to make them more comfortable

I am at work

i would still like the actually intended way, mine felt hacky and if thats the intended way it can be improved by a LOT imo.

What ? That's cool and strange

make this solo pls

1st game , didn't played the map long time 6:45 time .

added skip for cp 6 as you wanted . changed cp 9 . changed cp 16 more space . changed cp 17 more space .

tell me where to change if need more changes

I got confused if it was me for a second xD

maciek is melon

conrfimed

cp 17 more space

Move whole area 1 to the left I would suggest. Im almost always 1tile away from the wall when swinging. So it should be 1 tile more left

This is just "repeat until u got it" Not that hard, but it feels annoying playing becaue I either hook myself into tele, or im dj'ing into it.

This area feels a little tight

1 more unhook and 1 more tile space would be better like that

Move one up here, got mentioned already by someone.

I would try to remap the hook and the platform to just create a more comfortable start. The swing will start off way better if it was more right. The platform would have to be a little more right too.

The space above doesn't really match the gameplay off the part right now.

The markings on the screenshot is an example. Please test to make it more comfortable and fitting the balance of the map.

This kinda forces the player to do a bad rocket jump on purpose

Hitting the first tele tile really often. It also happens that I come up in the tele

Should be moved at least one to the right

You gotta move the upper part one tile to the right too if you move this

Can easily get too high if the first rocket is good.

If you made more space up, I would fall from higher which makes the last rocket of the part probably too precise. I think right now it is a little precise but still okay.

I think thats all

i am right now trying it and after change it's realy feels better

i think you mean skip right ?

no. This part forces the player to do a bad rocket jump as I said. The reason is the tele above the player

didn't changed this because

this changed and works good i think there now

changed all mentions

?

Even in your demo you hit it all the time

until you swang around 3 times and hit it eventually

that just confirmed it doesn't work great

since i changed first half works now better no ?

no...

How would it affect the swing?

ok

You can even see it in the buggy demo xd

sorry should record in lower fps

xD

kinda don't changes anythink but feels maybe better -> moved one tile

These tiles either don't work or just make it really worse

Mostly the swing is just bad here

Would put this 1 down

Otherwise good changes👍

? just shoot down

putted down

changed like so

above

why dont you just join the test server really quick, we're on it anyway :p

changed cp 13

cp8

cp 13

(did it)

cp 12 fix cp 13 new part

thanks for testing

design bugs in all such places. maybe you could improve the tileset?

you can close the hole in 1st ss

in my opinion it is better to close such holes so that the map looks cleaner

ur tileset also has these little dots

hopefully i fixed everything

At this point I would probably remove these 3

It is the only one which works really good for the part. With the others I'm swinging into the tele

fix

cp 9 1 tile\

cp 9 deleted hook

cp 13 changes

changed start cp 13 because you can do like so cp 14 moved 1 platform right

for what this?

or its skip? if yes what is intended way

Dj

Not skip but making it harder

u go up with nade to the wall and rocket jump near that flying thing

probably

u mean u can keep dj?

Yeah, it's easy with double jump.

I still don't like these swings. They force you to do it at medium speed, if you do a really good swing you will fail.

oh god, I did not see that.

All in all, it's a good rework, I think the map is ready even if you don't make those changes I mentioned.

fixed skip : cp7 : moved tele up and block down

ok i played this part again and i feel like to many noobs will rq on this part. idk i feel smth unsmooth this is easy part but if u know how it works.

ok now after update i feel like 7 cp unbalanced. or i still dont know intended way

oh i tried to keep hook to get bigger rocket jump. ok its fine, but a little bit confusing.

Was confusing for me too xd but i think it is fine

Can be changed if u want

tested and seems good

changed here aswell cp 18 (moved one block right > )

Like

we've got dead one

release soon i hope

lol why this still on testing?

its marked as ready

several maps are activated but without responses for months maybe the testers don't have time to evaluate...

Optimized:

thank you 😄 strange i don't feel anything anymore ( when map accepted ). thanks everyone who tested and helped

good bot

texonik always nice maps

🐐

cp7 is still horrible

idk about everyone but i find it inconsistent

also yeah first hour and we got botted ranks crazy

yea cp7 is pure luck for me

i wonder why

every part skippable :D

just leak it at this point

video once i have music

how long, i help search

about ~1:20min for both maps ig

are you planning on making grenadium 3?

Who knows

Very bad map, decline

When laserium

good map :3