#Satani
"Satani" by Kefitenya, Rtyner & Ayanami [Brutal]
DDNet 09/20/2024 6:07 PM
@kefitenya

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Satani.map
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DDNet 09/20/2024 6:07 PM
kefitenya 09/20/2024 7:19 PM
Satani.map
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DDNet 09/20/2024 7:19 PM

Include a changelog alongside your map updates (preferably with screenshots).

kefitenya 09/20/2024 7:21 PM

I have corrected the errors

kickerx 09/24/2024 7:42 AM
@kefitenya

from what i see, you changed already declined map and posted it again, did u ask permission for that from original map creators?

and this map is still far from being released, as VeNa said in previous decline, you have to play more to get more expeirence and understand what is good. When you are testing your map, ask yourself do u enjoy playing and restarting it without super?

There literally no content on the map except faily plain hammerfly, a bit of basic faily gores and few basic drag parts. There also no flow, so its not really cool to speedrun, and because it is so faily map is unplayable for t0. It reminds me "Black&White", but way more failier and more unbalanced

If you want your map to be a challenge, there still must be some cool / tricky / flow stuff in it, but as i said before there no content

DDNet 09/24/2024 7:43 AM
@kefitenya

Your map submission has been declined.

kickerx 09/24/2024 7:44 AM

if u ask me why black&white is released and this map is not, you have to consider that black&white is 9 years old map, i doubt black&white could pass testing now too

rtyner 09/24/2024 9:55 AM
@kickerx

Then I have a question: how to make a short card when there are none. For example, resistance. There is nothing in this map except pseudo fly and Aled. But this is insein! So, how do we make a short map if you don't know what the problem is?..

ronin9m 09/24/2024 10:05 AM

Resistance was made before pseudo fly was invented, so back then it was rated as insane 🤓

kickerx 09/24/2024 10:06 AM

Resistance is also bad example, the map was released 8 years ago before pseudofly and aled technic were discovered and mastered by a lot of players. i doubt it could be released nowadays

rtyner 09/24/2024 10:06 AM

well, you understand that this is not correct when about 40% of the cards do not pass verification...

rtyner 09/24/2024 10:07 AM

map*

f0rtishka 09/24/2024 10:10 AM

So your solution is to delete maps that were released some time ago?

rtyner 09/24/2024 10:11 AM

No, why if they are still being played today

f0rtishka 09/24/2024 10:11 AM

So what you meant by your message above?

rtyner 09/24/2024 10:13 AM

I mean, what needs to be done to get a short map accepted?

f0rtishka 09/24/2024 10:14 AM

It should be clean, no major bugs/skips, not too short, with proper difficulty, enjoyable

kickerx 09/24/2024 10:16 AM

short maps are totally fine, your map is declined not because of that. i declined it because there nothing cool in the map. there literally 3-4 basic drags and rest is plain hammerfly with no flow

kickerx 09/24/2024 10:18 AM

its not optimized for speedrunning, its unplayable for team 0 and imo its not enjoyable to play

rtyner 09/24/2024 10:19 AM

Thanks for the reply. Maybe it will be possible to create a map with 5 times

kickerx 09/24/2024 10:20 AM

making a decent fly map is very hard, i cant remember any good fly map except Just Pseudo Fly. There flow and creative well thought parts

kickerx 09/24/2024 10:21 AM

you also can try "Fly Around", the map is almost 11 years old but there few cool hammerfly setup parts i liked

rtyner 09/24/2024 10:24 AM

We'll try

anthonyyx 09/24/2024 10:36 AM

google translate goes hard