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did a mistake forgot to add the deep that coulda been bad lmao (got rid of it earlier

saw another cheat but won't update yet since I feel like Im doing too many of them in short succession

skip part if both tees go this way

same, u can throw dummy to > and skip whole part

u can throw dummy to tele 26 and then use him to go in tele 26 too

design bug

isnt necessary use that

another of many skips

used doors to fix skips

you mean you can just jump across and get him after?

forgot off switch 4

lol

yes

did u put door on the finish line?

no

put it

alright

bcs of this

design bug

entit bug

put every cto/to tele on the ground when player/dummy is alone

the idea behind that part is that the dummy shouldn't go down until the player's gone into the teleport. will add a door to further solidify that idea.

alright. first time making a map by myself so there might be more errors like that from inexperience sorry

just there aren't freeze in design

OH

lmao

mb

is not necessary mark everything just relevant things, specially in dummy maps due is not for new players and they should know what to do

alright

struggling a bit on how to fix this

Also unsure whether it's fine for me to keep sending the updates so regularly

1.- delete and just put an arrow below pointing to the left 2.- move that sign to there, and same here with this hold thing with 2 or 3 should be okay for the map, then they will know/learn

u can send as quickly as u want, but make sure to explain changes so it helps out testers

what u should do is test everything and re test it

look for cheats, bugs etc b4 submit

yeah that's how I realized I forgot to put the door close 4 :')

And alright tks lynn!

the map have too much weight for what the map is 1.- i dont see the point of use generic_unhook if u are using coke tilset 2.- usless, you can change the colour of the bg by yourself

ik that its hard do a 1 star map, but try to make the map more interesting, bcs as it is is not releasable

for example, here you can just jump

how do you change the colour of the bg? also had the other one because the tile Im using for the ht has a small white outline inside each of the 4 blocks (for hookthrough). admittedly after looking at them side by side the difference isn't so big that it bothers me so Ima work on that one sec

well you could use the tile set as ciniminix design

also sorry for bombarding you with question

1.- click there 2.- right click on a red square (every square has his own colour personalization) 3.- here do you have RGB (Red, Green, Blue) you can click on the big square and change it to the colour that u wish, or, you can search a specifically colour code

A=alpha= transparency

its ok, you cant know everything if u start mapping yesterday u know

highly improved the hookthrough tiles, also added text that I thought was funny among other fixes

You've given me too much power

fixed literally one block that was bugging me (it had a continuation that I didn't include so it was open ended)

<3

changed design of unhook a bit, making it look less uniform

this skip is still possible, activate the switch again if you fall in cp 7

fixed that part, also got rid of the jump part, currently empty as I try to think of something else to do with that section

fixed an issue with checkpoints that could result in a fail

complicado mapear

fun tho

various fixes for map size

as in kb size

uncramped a few parts to give more breathing space

I couldnt find any but there might be visual bugs with entities because of this

fixed an issue and added a placeholder part for the part that had to be replaced

forgot to remove generic unhookables from the embedded section thing

few tele fixes

Ill chillax a bit now

few fixes to freeze make the map not feel as cramped in a part as well as entities fix

added time checkpoints

the background hurts my eyes. make it less bright and desaturate a bit

can just go in

i don't get the meaning of ! sign

no freeze entities here

overlap

mark endless hook and infinite jumps

the map is too short in my opinion

the deep freeze should be marked imo stopper is useless

not a skip but unintended way

quality of life changes following insertkeys suggestions

ngl no clue what to do ab this

Just saying that if the dummy falls there you have to go back and redo the throw thing as well.

Admittedly after that this you can do this cheat again but also don't know how to fix that

Wait I know how to fix that

did the fix

Can fix that, it's gonna take a bit of time tho

Most likely the length won’t change that much tho

use a speedup going left at 2 force (no max speed)

added a bunch of doodads cause the map was looking kind of empty imo

changed a fail option that while not very common, plausible, to be nonfail since tbf it is walking into the corner of a teleport before touching checkpoint

also would like to add a midi tune of the song in repeat in the background

how to add sound?

since it's clearly an option

changed the last change to make ti look a bit prettier cause it looked really ugly admittedly

changed stopper at beginning to avoid someone just suiciding by running straight left into the freeze

saw a entities thing I forgot to get rid off, and readded a hold message

moved a switch that was overlapping with one of the doodads

added a few checkpoints to make the map better overall

added a b teleport for a part in case u didnt hold for some reason

added a few more things

had a visual bug after the last update

added corners to a freeze that didnt have them

more visual bugs

labelling

cleaned up teleports with checkpoints and stuff, cp 18 was kind of useless where it was, so I fixed that as well. In theory there shouldn't be checkpoints for parts that dont need checkpoints

cp 12 could be moved to a different place to lower file size

well it barely lowered it but :p

essentially just made cp 12 be 4 blocks instead of 10

forgot to get rid of a single checkpoint block

Wait Im dumb I forgot 2 cps I need to fix

there boom

Also I never mentioned why I didn’t change this, u can hook while going right and then press left and keep dj. The main reason I’m keeping it is cause it feels and looks cool imo despite it being easy

Im also reaching a wall dunno what else I can do to improve the map

it seems like a tester hasn't checked this map yet, i would just wait until someone could take a look, otherwise your hard work might be for nothing

alright!

i would recommend you start a new map, this one has to be rework entirely

Gonna wait for that decline before starting on that

i love this map

dont decline

i dont agree, maps in easy dummy category arent often released

simple gameplay isnt bad either

Any map can be released as long as it's good

Map looks all squarish ... :/

if its fun to play then why not?

Wdym squarish?

Like the design?

uh- this doesn't look right is this normal

the order I mean

I mean I feel like info and submit maps should be at the top of the section for map testing

its a known issue

my map is just more important than other stuff here!

Lol

Wait was this shade

Ohh I understood. Yes I’m slow shush

Gonna give it a new logo

Actually

Maybe not

Ayo can this be put in waiting for a bit

$waiting

waiting for big changes

yo, can we change the map name?

to Wendigo

$change name "Wendigo"

Ty man

i would remove ht and add just stopper to the right there

its more smooth

hi coke

hi

no need high quality infos xd

you can use a low resolution (adjusted to the size of the text ingame)

map very unbalanced, u mixed up easy and harder parts

try to follow one difficulty level

$waiting

Ight, so changed the start stoppers but left the hookthrough anyways, that way you can do it as coke suggested, but can still use the old way if preferred, added 2 quads "by welshi" and "special thx to arrow" both much lower quality than the rest, I don't feel like the difference is that noticeable, but if it is I can change quality of everything a bunch. Also moved the checkpoint 8 and the corner arrow pointed out as well as changed most of the drags that were on the easier side to be a bit more difficult + creative, except for one which might be the most uninspired thing Ive ever seen, but it does seem to work. If any part is not that good (Im new to mapping so it's probably very likely) just tell me and I'll do my best to improve it! I did leave the fall of checkpoint 4 cause I kind of liked it though.

The map is still essentially the same tho, and there are probably still some super easy parts, Im sorry please have patience with me

to make it more "fun" you could make the part longer where i marked, besides to not make the part that simple orange: just maybe do a room there to not to repeat the beginning of the part

Not very big, just did a bit of what arrow was suggesting and changed the part, it no longer uses switches

up it 2 tiles

1.- imo would be better if u do this slide to start the jetpack part, how it is rn its boring 2.- close that if u're going to do that

some drags still boring

that part its kinda tight imo

1.-i would down the part marked a few tiles bcs its too tight when u're trying to do the cp 6 part

the rocket part should be different its harder than the rest of the map, idk why i did that part

maybe this part could be like this to make it more "fun" or smth else bcs its just a swing

this whole section its just a boring filler, idk u could make something with the telegun

and also u could add thing to make the map cooler in design like trees

etc

im rooting for u welshnya

Aaaa I need to do this

did changes

lots of changes

ik it went less than .50 kb up but trust did changes ;-;

did the changes here, the previous way is still an option but the window to jump is much smaller so I'm okay with it

didn't really change any drags either cause dunno which should have like an upgrade which a makeover in a way and if any are okay as is, plus tired and new years so ye

1.- the part itself feels uncomfortable when u hook, make it bigger or idk 2.- put more cp9 there or change the position of the cp 12

u dont use that part, the rocket parts feels like a lazy thing, like u didnt think what to do there

you dont even need the rocket put more tele

check whole map, i think the same happened in cp 8

fix above

$waiting

Did the changes above. Also planning on changing the logo, but haven't done that yet

u didnt fix this

the rocket there is useless

u can take speed, then hit the dummy so u skip the first part

I’m ngl I have no clue what you’re telling me here, is the tileset wrong?

I figured you were saying that the jump on top is awkward so I tried giving it more space as an answer but yeahhhh

as for the getting speed here's the issue with that

Ive already reached a couple of times

so like, i was thinking of adding tp in the wall but that won't work

I feel like the only way to solve it is to either get rid of the part and do something else there or to make that the intended way

only solution that keeps it as is that I can think of is using doors but that's gonna be hella cringe

Im probably gonna just make it the intended way

unless someone can think of something else

cause the part it skips is admittedly kind of awkward

Wtf welshi blind, is the sign that says HOLD

OMG I REALLY DIDN’T SEE IT TF

SO! Did changes above, by making using the rocket mandatory and by making the throw the intended way, also decided to keep logo cause I finally found the picture and apparently its free to use which solves my issue with it which was wanting to change it cause maybe it wasnt a free to use image. Also moved the hold to be seen again lolol

WAIT

START POSITION IS WRONG

there

Omagad

Omaigot

the end of this part sucks. The part does not fit the map and needs to be revised

You can just skip that part. Simply take the dummy upstairs. ( The dummy doesn't need the grenade he gets in this part )

Some checkpoints like this one are stupidly set or too small. Sometimes you have to drag the dummy unnecessarily to give him the CP or give yourself

All in all. Is not a map that I personally enjoy. The parts are sometimes boring or you know many from other maps. Not much new and not so creative. Rating: 2 stars dummy.

i would make this part in end so you use dj to get big speed jetpack, adding freeze and unfreeze , with out dj you wouldn't able to do it .

maybe somethink like that ?

reminds me map ( old parts that i changed ) . amazing map can't wait release .

Dummy will always touch the checkpoint in this part as you drag him left to go to next part, even if it was 1 block of checkpoint cause even if he ends up edge on the left you’ll immediately move him right a bit when hook from the right.

I’m ngl I’m confused on how to get to cp 23 without rocket. The idea of the part there is to hammer the dummy who throws a rocket whcih you use for speed, can you get there by hooking dummy for speed or something?

I’ll try modifying after some tests ^^

Tbf I sort of agree, part kinda sucks

Thank you for testing! It’s my first map so I understand it’s not that good

Ooo that looks really good, I’ll try it out, maybe do some changes based on how it feels

I’m kind of confused on what you mean sorry- You mean like, add a big chunk of freeze you need to get through with speed at the end of the part?

Thank you!

update, getting through to checkpoint 23 is possible without rocket, gonna change that rq

it's tight enough to where adding one extra block of checkpoint seems to make it impossible

Yes and unfreeze on top . But its just suggestion .

$waiting

SO! I finally got rid of that stupid jetpack filler and replaced it with something I like a bit more, did the changes above as well, also found a skip which allowed the person to keep jetpack which is why cto4 has jetpack deactivated. Overall the map didn't have a lot of changes further ahead, however I changed the drag of teleport 3 to include the revamped jetpack filler.

added a back

part still confusing

maybe add there just unhook

switches on by default, dont need switch 6 on at the start + u can delete the ht at the start

What happend to your hair?

its drawn now

$waiting

wait

didnt change button

imo the whole cp 4 has to be change for something else, but not a drag

move this cp to there

move this or make an adjustment to no hit the roof there (above to de hold)

now this part got better imo, but: 1.- if u back walking u will not know where the jetpack on is, so better put a jetpack on together with the off 2.- this is not good placement of the dummy make it bigger 3.- make this ht

this movement its quite uncomfortable, try to do smth different

idk, its kinda too far or smth

did all those changes above

I didn’t actually test my solution for this one I’ll do that later

Also forgot to change this to ht

But u have to b4 submit xD

True

Already did that one

But what I’m saying is it’s likely that one is still kind of awkward

The rest I did my best to fix

yoo, added time cps, also forgot to mention that I tried it and I don't find it awkward at all

Because u are used to it but kinda is

maybe, also had the spawn in the wrong place

I havent played the map in 3 months tho

hook before jumping, and then jump, u have more htan enough time and height to reach the next hook

wena wena has been a long time... well in my honest opinion i think its time to let the map go, we tried to fix it but its wasnt enough, has really serious problems with the gameplay in some points, including weird mapping bcs everything is too tight, for example cp 4 or 9, lack of creativity that wont let the map to get released, and its funny that testers let this map for so long.

wena wena, you’re telling me as if I have the power to let it go lmao

But yeah map kinda sucks

For real there are some parts that imo are cool that you could recicle for another map with enough space between parts and to move in general.

I think some cool ideas are there, but it was the first map I ever mapped so I’m not that disappointed

well you could tell some tester to decline the map if u want

yee i screenshotted the parts that you could use for next time

I agree with Arrow, map is honestly not that awful but has some bad stuff that would be difficult to fix

$decline