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Here is a skin in the absence of the music

Hope this is worth to released

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something is wrong here

Map not on the test server and no auto upload

maybe youll find the answer at “submit map” channel

Is this just a dc problem?

what

not green yet

i know it

ok

Why must this god forsaken bot break every 10 minutes?

Ah, this map is just too broken 😄

So many errors from

's tool the reply doesn't fit here

😇

you might want to add a

 there so the map doesn't get stuck like this

I'll make a pr

Oh actually I don't get any errors

is rather long

Ah yep

I only tried debug_load

can the bot fix the map btw?

not yet

you have a lot of mirrored stoppers, I don't remember why exactly but we don't want those 😛

the collision with mirrored stoppers is broken

or more general: physics tiles that have a direction are broken when they are mirrored

and I'm guessing we can't fix it because some ancient map from the age of discovery uses it

nah, its actually rather common

even newer maps have them occasionally

i dont get the term "mirrored stoppers"

so gg with the map?

you can mirror tiles by pressing that x/x or y/y button in the top left (or with some key bind). you should never use that for tiles in the game/front/etc layer, only in tiles layers

you should only use the rotate function for those tiles

note that this is more a problem with the game than a problem with your mapping style, it just can happen while you don't know it yet

sorry my tool can't yet just fix it for you, right now you have to follow the coordinates the tool gives you and un-mirror them (by pressing the mirror button). you can check if they are mirrored by pressing the

button and looking at the letters in the block

ok ik what is the problem

i use N and M key for the tele quads

they behave differently, dont stop you properly

so quads arent the problem?

no, quads are fine

so how do i know when i used those type of rotation? every stopper has 60 and unhook has 3

this one?

I'm trying to fix the bot right now, once its fixed you should get the output, where it prints the coordinates of the mirrored tiles

cool

Error log in the attached file

thanks for the fix, I'm guessing the bot still can't really fix it so it's up to

now to fix the stoppers, right?

yes, I'm too occupied with learning rn to implement that for the bot

I can maybe take a look at it, it just needs to replace mirrored stoppers with rotated ones, right?

that would be enough for most maps. if you want to do a quick fix, it would probably the easiest to do in python

if you want to do it in the twmap rust library, it would probably fit best in

or a new file

. a small design decision would be if you un-mirror only game tiles that actually have a direction or all of them. I would go for only ones with a direction since mirrored maps look cooler in entities that way ^^

I'd definitely only go for ones with a direction

so now i have to download the debug_output.txt?

in my discord client I can just click 'Expand' and it shows me the file inside of discord

im confused is this not the headshot one

rls headshot one when

obviously it isnt i made this one

it was mostly sarcastic xd

i remember headshot's map tho, was so fun

ill test this one

fun fact i didnt knew that headshot did a similar map to this one til sorah told me the day before submit xd

does it have the coin mechanic?

wowow USA test still ded

yes, i added the opposite of penalty i don't remember the name but it takes off u like 3 seconds

idk if this map is in test servers yet due the problem

"press space to play" looks slightly off center

okay, and then i just delete those that are mirrored and put it as normal?

that works :)

i mean if i want to rotate just use R key right?

alternatively select them, mirror them, place back

don't know the key bindings, rotating is correct

mm i think with stoppers it's a bit odd that you can dj

i believe in headshot's map only ground impulse was enabled and there was some friction tune

how do you not die to tele after coin?

not jumping makes u fall in the spike and jumping makes u hit spike floor

this is the only 3-wide spike in the map so maybe it's just not intended to be that wide?

i think i fix it

oh i get it lol

nice, the bot likes it :)

xd that seems

some fixes

i was hyped for a map like this

but it was dissapointing af

single spike jumps never been this hard

also you can literally stop at jetpack parts

at 1st jetpack part you can literally fall on ground and get stopped

also i dont see any reason to change the jetpack portals color

the jump orbs are kinda random

if you jump there later it gives you more height than holding

wich makes no sense

why not map it like it actually looks?

you could jump on the block

why not make a gravity portal?

it wouldnt be much harder than the jetpack one

and it would make it way more clearer later parts

the 9 jump part just feels weird and awkward

this jump orb feels useless

or is it intentionally for blocking?

also you can just hold jump under the orb wich wouldnt be possible in the game

gravity change not even marked here?

also the hitboxes feel kinda wack

not very accurate

hi

Well thats unfair

u need to try the headshot one honestly

when submit

o u cant

cus it uses some server mod right

at least for the music patch

i think it only uses old version of ddnet

u played it? whats ur opinion?

this isnt a good channel for this topic though

it was a cool showcase of what is possible or was more like

yes, it uses ddnet9 race timer for manipulating sounds and envelopes with it

15.1.3, not that old

u think it would work for ddnet without it tho ? maybe just desynced music

one map

if people wouldn't mind the off-beat feeling of it then yes

tbh if you made it for ddnet you should make an even harder one

clubstep

that way it would be worth points actually

is clubstep hard

or hardest

is it hard? hmm perhaps

i have never gotten past 10% of it on the actual game

ok maybe not that hard

i was thinking like mid-main game maps

its the 1st harder map you encounter (if you dont go to online levels)

i see

what about xstep

doesn't seem that bad

or cycles

omg time machine

cycles sux imo

but time machine hyper pog

ya i think time machine is a good candidate for ddnet

or something like it

WHEN

no u

well its a shame hearing that, bcs if isn't noticed i really tried my best, maybe i just putted more effort on quads than the gameplay and i felt that, and btw is the first time trying that many tunes so i have not the enough experience working on with that.

i couldnt find a consistent way to fix that, just putting stoppers, and playing with accel and control speed wasnt enough, and i dont know if exist a tune that can fix that, maybe i could replace infinity jumps instead idk

to match with the "zone", why would you put a red portal in a blue zone doesnt make sense, and also i couldnt find a portal without photoshop problems, and i dont have the enough skill to make 1 by my self, or maybe i could but it would take a lot of time which i dont have

wdym

i think thats more a problem of the game than mine

bcs i forgot at least the second one, the first one isnt necessary

same here, i was trying to find a portal but i had a problem deleting the bg so i couldnt do it

the teleport on the bottom are supposed that i would used but such a problem deleting the bg without damaging the integrity of the portal u know?

and also i noticed when the gravity change in gd a thing flies up or down depending the gravity, so i rather putting that, and just put a limit where the change its going to happend

so yeah that was a ez solution to me

both are for bait

yes but it was hard to make an accurate hitbox, bcs it will depend how late or how early you jump and i cant put the half of the tune zone, so its not really my problem, i really tried to find a way that you could do it with no problem if you press at the space bar at the right time

imo not necessary due you have to learn from early "zones" what you have to do, and also its kind a obvious dont u think?

imo you should recolor so its consistant with the other yellow orbs in other places

i meant it only visually

it would look much cleaner with portals than with a zone marking

Actually yesterday i tried to make a “gravity portal” and seems ok

Also im trying to fix the hitbox of the jumps, i dont know what happened but after was okay enough, i couldnt fix the doble jump on the orbs so sad

well i just had a playthrough^^... the idea is pretty cool, also the gameplay is fun i guess^^ but the jetpack parts are trash to me, there are super easy (maybe the tunezone is just not right for it)

Yes i agree with u jetpack parts are trash maybe its better use infinity jumps idk ill wait for some extra opinion about that

i think

if you did a map with headshot

it would be really cool

HMM

i told

if he wanted to be on this map but he couldn't so..

rip

i think no matter what if a map gets released like this i will be happy. but i still think the main physics are a bit awkward in this one and some of the parts are annoying compared to the others

mainly the fact that there isn't much time after a totele to know when to jump

im working on trying to make it more enjoyable but it will take a time im not into mapping as before idk why

im definitely not into mapping like i was before. I think the meme is that "Lynn will release a map..... some day"

did u mapped in some point?

everyone always says "when rls" to my maps but I always say "idk"

ill dm u

when submit then xd

literally will never submit unless i care about the map

and i dont

what will u do about the jetpack parts?

I changed it to infinity jumps

Now im fixing the jumps on the red part but its quite hard since some times when you press space its possible to jump higer and sometimes isnt

So when i fix the red part ill upload

$waiting

Still some things to fix, i think i change most of the shitty stuffs, so now i would like to see what u guys think

Here it comes now... we're going to decline this map. We have some several problems with the infinite jump parts (before: jetpack), also the stoppers in normal parts are pretty bad too - at some points there buggy.

Idk if u wanna improve/rework the map cause it's a cool idea i guess..., but for now we don't see a release of it.

$decline

idk what you mean about stoppers, bcs there aren't but its okay, i dont want to improve/rework this map, its too problematic and i dont want to waste more time 😄

well, when u hit a stopper in a weird way, it can reduce your speed - to just mention one thing^^

hum but all is unhook

but ye there are a lot of buggy stuff and im aware of it so np

If your able to fix all bugs and get a good alternative for the infinite jump parts, you always can bring back that map^^