


ok this is a pretty short map i just made for novice

idk how tf to map novice and all the parts are probably stolen but w/e

HIGH DETAIL WHEN

$DECLINE

do u want me to change this name

do u care

cus i forgot shocktsunami was a map

lol

No

some falling leaves despawn in the air

ye i fixed

cool map

Nice Map !

Last Part is Cheatable, you can hook into the arrows :p

its just solo possible 😄

First part is hooktrough which is not hooktrough 😄

I think it was a bit different, but louis wanted to change the colors.


But i like your graphics and the gameplay c:

and the map is a little bit of very short i played it with dummy in 2 mins so maybe add some parts

The falling Leafs are so nice !

thanks everyone for testing

i added some skips so pro players could use those skips for speedrunning, i want to appeal to both noobs and speedrunners in this map but i'll see if i can change the last part.

i will probably add a couple more parts as well

Ah my fault, nice idea!


please bigger start room

ok

makes no sense at all to use CP teles

but you can keep them....

CP1 part (with laser) - I would remove unfreeze, your mate can hook you and hammer

ravie told me to use cps

for cp 2 and shit

yeah i guess ill remove that

I would use one tele there, between CP2 and CP3 part

so you can go back

it won't harm noobs if they fail hooking mate and fall back

maybe join test srv instead of writing here


nice, you are gone after 30sec

huh



this map sucks

?

mapping novice gives me negative iq

lol

especially easy novice

u try to create something other than generic drag part like in just2easy and then its too simple or not long enough

then u try to make it more complex and boom its not easy novice anymore

then make it short and simple u nobo

did u even look at the map

yes



nice novice map

more unfreeze

kinda weird that we failed but still did the part


thats why you shouldnt use cp tele if its not neccessary

There was a mapping rule about CP teles

Only use them if necessary but these days everyone use them and spam with cps

yes and I hate that !

cp tele > to tele

cp tele = cto actually

ok ok ok i changed it


and i fixed most of it except like the 1 wide freeze cause it is nice for speedrunning imo

im still thinking if i wanna add more or not tho since ppl say its short

The rules makes sense tho

how

$ready

will reset it if you decide to expand the map, you still have at least 2 weeks to do it

see this ready spree

you forgot stars

ppl never agree with me about stars :(

it could be even 1*

but dont ready before you decided the stars

otherwise i cant release

what is this rule

Usually u can just set 1 star more than testers say especially on easy maps

what

i should release map without rating?

No xd

Im just saying testers rate maps too low

sometimes too high

but how to make a 1 star map with that rule?

@jaobut dont ready before you decided the stars
always did it like that xd

Look novice map introduction, its set 2* but its way too hard

ready means everything is done and map can be released like that

but without stars its not possible

if u didnt decide stars yet just dont ready

$reset

so u know something is missing and u still need to think about it

i say 2*

why do I have to do everything ;f

seems 1* to me

1* from me too

Never

Vote

I see ur last screenshot and can tell by only that, that it can not be 1*

People just fail to rate novice maps because they cant remember how damn bad they were as beginners

it's not faily at all

and it has short parts

doesnt matter because its not a map for absolute beginners

noivce maps shouldnt be faily in general

just2easy 1*

it is

An absolute beginner cant do these parts

lol u have to roccket jump in just2easy

and ur saying this is harder than that

Other maps are rated bad

novice maps for us were koules and skynets

Doesnt mean this should be rated bad too

then you cant really rate a 1* novice map in that view

and other maps I don't remember names

idk any abolute easy 1* for beginners

Im playing with absolute beginners the last weeks, mostly multimap, they cannot do this shit

i mean

multimap isn't 1*

yes

multimap is rated retarded yes

Im just Saying that im playing with full nobos


u all seem not to do that

there is nothing complicated in this map

by ur standards id argue we have no true 1* maps then lol

we have

urs is not 1*

usually when i play with "real nobos"they rq at first parts in most 1* maps uf

which one is 1* easy?

which ones then konsti

most 1* got declined anyways for too classic and boring gameplay

it doesn't use many features too so it's not confusing

Its not about confusing

A wallhammer is no noob skill

Doesnt matter that u only have to jump and hook

Its too hard for 1*

but wallhammer part has stopper

to make it easier

you can just random jump and hamemr

and it will work

we can throw a coin

anyway

jao asked ME to rate it xd

comunity opinions matters too?


@Lady Saavikbut wallhammer part has stopper
makes it even harder, a nobo doesnt know when to release and then the tee is half stucked in stoppers

and....? it's no problem

Ok u cant stuck, im wrong here

Anyway a wallhammer is too hard

noobs don't have to make every part first try on 1* map

isnt 1* for complete beginner maps

It should

And this isnt

A beginner cant even climb up a wall

this is not for beginner but its not like any other 1* maps is for complete beginners either

there is a lot of hookthr to make parts easier

maybe we should release some 0* novice


The other maps being wrong rated is a bad argument

I don't see any part noobs could be stuck at

maybe 2 parts they will need more time/tries

Cuz u dont know how nobos play

im playing with them and it feels like nobody else here do that

I will say it once again

dont rate it 1* imo

1* has to be really easy

I'm always trying to make maps easier and more friendly

and I saw noobs playing

they can't rehook

hammerfly

they can't walk precisely

don't know when to release

etc

that its easier doesnt mean its 1*

2* is easy too

3* too

4* too+

its novice

1 is easier than 2

id say if we're rating this based on how other maps are rated, it is def a 1. but, if we're rating this on the facts that 1* has to be very easy, then i'd say it could be a 2*. this also means like all the other 1 star maps are 2\ too lmao

yeah thats the point lol

this is one of the easiest maps we have

all 1* being declined for too boring gameplay (?)

The "rerate the other maps too then" discussion is so old

Yes it should be made but no its not the point now

btw funny how mappers can't evaluate their maps correctly at all and tried so many times to post a clearly moderate map as [Novice]

mappers can't map really easy maps

and they don't want to be forced to change parts

how many times I asked mappers to remove freeze, make aplatform, make a checkpoint, add hookthr, whatever

but no "it would be too easy"

mappers need to accept that testers are right

im right

Ex testers have the highest count on opinions

i say compared to other 1 maps this is a 1

I always try to make maps less faily somehow to make it playable and possible to finish for more players but mappers don't agree

it's their fault we had to make insane server!

are you now actually unironically blaming the mappers?

sorry for shit question, but how it is related?


what is happening

careful now welf will say that ur maps are bad

lol

The insane server has been created by me tho

With help of Freezestyler

Okay the map is ready, but can we agree on 2* finally

$ready 1

nouis

1 is fine

lets make a 0* novice

@ᶰ°KonͧstiA beginner cant even climb up a wall
just2easy 2* map then

Gold mine insane 5 then


added credit

rls today pls

Tsunami by louis release on Novice on Saturday, September 5th at 6pm CEST

Why do you delete my messages?

Can you at least argue with me?

Not important massages for this map

IT IS

Just wait

are you blind?

We have alot of novice players

More content is better

In any way

WHy would we wait

We don't need scheduled releases, nobody of the new players cares about it

And new players are the topic right now on ddnet

Ask
@jaoabout his map-releases

yes i will release it today

can you now argue for not releasing it today?

Since you obviously thought you had a point

Just reading map releases

😁

Why are you so annoying?

I can say the same thing about you

Well i was doing something for a reason, because i really thought that it is the better option from all our options

you were deleting my messages and not explaining it

and telling me to wait

why did you tell me to wait?

@CøkeJust reading map releases

🥱

Well you told me to wait

Why did you?

You were acting like my suggestion to release it today was wrong? It felt like that because you didn't agree with me.

I just wrote the same as in the map release channel?

Not my personal opinion

we can still discuss things

that someone wrote somethin in map-releases plan doesn't mean it's permanent

You didn't just copy paste. Communication is more than "i just randomly copied this random thing and that has to mean nothing".

or somewhere else

I want to see the deleted msg btw .-.

you told me to wait, but it was not your personal opinion, that i should wait for the map release?

I just want to understand you at this point

I said it 3 times now, that's enough

I didn't understand you

So what is your personal opinion?

Release today?

If so why did you tell me to wait?

waitwait

dont release it yet

i have to make the spawn room bigger

xd

if this is going on huge servers its going to be crammed if i dont make it bigger

please look at this before you release/schedule the release, thanks 🙂

add hammerfly part pls

there is

ok

then ping me when its ready

do you guys need further assistance on testing?

but dont except me to release in 5min then

but dont except me to release in 5min then do it, no balls


wat


i think this is easiest fix


wait

a little bug xd

you have time to fix until 19:00

whats the time for u rn

u have 1 hour

xD

basically


ok

$time hanover

🌞 18/08/2020 17:59:53 (UTC +02:00)

good map

Even though it should be 2*


xd sry for spam


nice tester making one simple fix with 4 new versions


5

stop bully please

chill, take your time xd

ok ok im done just one more


fiiiix xD

didnt i fix

reload map

oh ye :s

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


srysrysrysrysrysrysrysry i just removed the whole line thing

idk if too late to fix mustve uuploaded old vers thought i fixed

Very nice map, but I tested with a player who has 3 hours in the game and he didn’t know How to do a single part

Should be like novice 3

didnt know how to do it xd, so stopper can fail you

get used to fails in this game xd

Still cant get why Saavik made this 1*

Its Definitely too hard

no single part in that map is 1*

grabbing a moving tee out of air is already not 1*

Agree with Konsti and Marcel. 1* is not appropriate

fine

well its probably too late to just change it to 2, but maybe if we compile a list of all novice map rerates we could change them to better suit new players skill level

i.e. newbee is not a 2*

kobras might not even be novice tbh

if anyone thinks its a good idea, here's a spreadsheet with all the novice maps


i'm not sure if admins would change all the difficulties if we rerate but if you're willing to help maybe you could just fill in a novice or two each day