ok this is a pretty short map i just made for novice
idk how tf to map novice and all the parts are probably stolen but w/e
HIGH DETAIL WHEN
$DECLINE
do u want me to change this name
do u care
cus i forgot shocktsunami was a map
lol
No
some falling leaves despawn in the air
ye i fixed
cool map
Nice Map !
Last Part is Cheatable, you can hook into the arrows :p
its just solo possible 😄
First part is hooktrough which is not hooktrough 😄
I think it was a bit different, but louis wanted to change the colors.
But i like your graphics and the gameplay c:
and the map is a little bit of very short i played it with dummy in 2 mins so maybe add some parts
The falling Leafs are so nice !
thanks everyone for testing
i added some skips so pro players could use those skips for speedrunning, i want to appeal to both noobs and speedrunners in this map but i'll see if i can change the last part.
i will probably add a couple more parts as well
Ah my fault, nice idea!
please bigger start room
ok
makes no sense at all to use CP teles
but you can keep them....
CP1 part (with laser) - I would remove unfreeze, your mate can hook you and hammer
ravie told me to use cps
for cp 2 and shit
yeah i guess ill remove that
I would use one tele there, between CP2 and CP3 part
so you can go back
it won't harm noobs if they fail hooking mate and fall back
maybe join test srv instead of writing here
nice, you are gone after 30sec
huh
this map sucks
?
mapping novice gives me negative iq
lol
especially easy novice
u try to create something other than generic drag part like in just2easy and then its too simple or not long enough
then u try to make it more complex and boom its not easy novice anymore
then make it short and simple u nobo
did u even look at the map
yes
nice novice map
more unfreeze
kinda weird that we failed but still did the part
thats why you shouldnt use cp tele if its not neccessary
There was a mapping rule about CP teles
Only use them if necessary but these days everyone use them and spam with cps
yes and I hate that !
cp tele > to tele
cp tele = cto actually
ok ok ok i changed it
and i fixed most of it except like the 1 wide freeze cause it is nice for speedrunning imo
im still thinking if i wanna add more or not tho since ppl say its short
The rules makes sense tho
how
$ready
will reset it if you decide to expand the map, you still have at least 2 weeks to do it
see this ready spree
you forgot stars
ppl never agree with me about stars :(
it could be even 1*
but dont ready before you decided the stars
otherwise i cant release
what is this rule
Usually u can just set 1 star more than testers say especially on easy maps
what
i should release map without rating?
No xd
Im just saying testers rate maps too low
sometimes too high
but how to make a 1 star map with that rule?
@jaobut dont ready before you decided the stars
always did it like that xd
Look novice map introduction, its set 2* but its way too hard
ready means everything is done and map can be released like that
but without stars its not possible
if u didnt decide stars yet just dont ready
$reset
so u know something is missing and u still need to think about it
i say 2*
why do I have to do everything ;f
seems 1* to me
1* from me too
Never
Vote
I see ur last screenshot and can tell by only that, that it can not be 1*
People just fail to rate novice maps because they cant remember how damn bad they were as beginners
it's not faily at all
and it has short parts
doesnt matter because its not a map for absolute beginners
noivce maps shouldnt be faily in general
just2easy 1*
it is
An absolute beginner cant do these parts
lol u have to roccket jump in just2easy
and ur saying this is harder than that
Other maps are rated bad
novice maps for us were koules and skynets
Doesnt mean this should be rated bad too
then you cant really rate a 1* novice map in that view
and other maps I don't remember names
idk any abolute easy 1* for beginners
Im playing with absolute beginners the last weeks, mostly multimap, they cannot do this shit
i mean
multimap isn't 1*
yes
multimap is rated retarded yes
Im just Saying that im playing with full nobos
u all seem not to do that
there is nothing complicated in this map
by ur standards id argue we have no true 1* maps then lol
we have
urs is not 1*
usually when i play with "real nobos"they rq at first parts in most 1* maps uf
which one is 1* easy?
which ones then konsti
most 1* got declined anyways for too classic and boring gameplay
it doesn't use many features too so it's not confusing
Its not about confusing
A wallhammer is no noob skill
Doesnt matter that u only have to jump and hook
Its too hard for 1*
but wallhammer part has stopper
to make it easier
you can just random jump and hamemr
and it will work
we can throw a coin
anyway
jao asked ME to rate it xd
comunity opinions matters too?
@Lady Saavikbut wallhammer part has stopper
makes it even harder, a nobo doesnt know when to release and then the tee is half stucked in stoppers
and....? it's no problem
Ok u cant stuck, im wrong here
Anyway a wallhammer is too hard
noobs don't have to make every part first try on 1* map
isnt 1* for complete beginner maps
It should
And this isnt
A beginner cant even climb up a wall
this is not for beginner but its not like any other 1* maps is for complete beginners either
there is a lot of hookthr to make parts easier
maybe we should release some 0* novice
The other maps being wrong rated is a bad argument
I don't see any part noobs could be stuck at
maybe 2 parts they will need more time/tries
Cuz u dont know how nobos play
im playing with them and it feels like nobody else here do that
I will say it once again
dont rate it 1* imo
1* has to be really easy
I'm always trying to make maps easier and more friendly
and I saw noobs playing
they can't rehook
hammerfly
they can't walk precisely
don't know when to release
etc
that its easier doesnt mean its 1*
2* is easy too
3* too
4* too+
its novice
1 is easier than 2
id say if we're rating this based on how other maps are rated, it is def a 1. but, if we're rating this on the facts that 1* has to be very easy, then i'd say it could be a 2*. this also means like all the other 1 star maps are 2\ too lmao
yeah thats the point lol
this is one of the easiest maps we have
all 1* being declined for too boring gameplay (?)
The "rerate the other maps too then" discussion is so old
Yes it should be made but no its not the point now
btw funny how mappers can't evaluate their maps correctly at all and tried so many times to post a clearly moderate map as [Novice]
mappers can't map really easy maps
and they don't want to be forced to change parts
how many times I asked mappers to remove freeze, make aplatform, make a checkpoint, add hookthr, whatever
but no "it would be too easy"
mappers need to accept that testers are right
im right
Ex testers have the highest count on opinions
i say compared to other 1 maps this is a 1
I always try to make maps less faily somehow to make it playable and possible to finish for more players but mappers don't agree
it's their fault we had to make insane server!
are you now actually unironically blaming the mappers?
sorry for shit question, but how it is related?
what is happening
careful now welf will say that ur maps are bad
lol
The insane server has been created by me tho
With help of Freezestyler
Okay the map is ready, but can we agree on 2* finally
$ready 1
nouis
1 is fine
lets make a 0* novice
@ᶰ°KonͧstiA beginner cant even climb up a wall
just2easy 2* map then
Gold mine insane 5 then
added credit
rls today pls
Tsunami by louis release on Novice on Saturday, September 5th at 6pm CEST
Why do you delete my messages?
Can you at least argue with me?
Not important massages for this map
IT IS
Just wait
are you blind?
We have alot of novice players
More content is better
In any way
WHy would we wait
We don't need scheduled releases, nobody of the new players cares about it
And new players are the topic right now on ddnet
Ask
@jaoabout his map-releases
yes i will release it today
can you now argue for not releasing it today?
Since you obviously thought you had a point
Just reading map releases
😁
Why are you so annoying?
I can say the same thing about you
Well i was doing something for a reason, because i really thought that it is the better option from all our options
you were deleting my messages and not explaining it
and telling me to wait
why did you tell me to wait?
@CøkeJust reading map releases
🥱
Well you told me to wait
Why did you?
You were acting like my suggestion to release it today was wrong? It felt like that because you didn't agree with me.
I just wrote the same as in the map release channel?
Not my personal opinion
we can still discuss things
that someone wrote somethin in map-releases plan doesn't mean it's permanent
You didn't just copy paste. Communication is more than "i just randomly copied this random thing and that has to mean nothing".
or somewhere else
I want to see the deleted msg btw .-.
you told me to wait, but it was not your personal opinion, that i should wait for the map release?
I just want to understand you at this point
I said it 3 times now, that's enough
I didn't understand you
So what is your personal opinion?
Release today?
If so why did you tell me to wait?
waitwait
dont release it yet
i have to make the spawn room bigger
xd
if this is going on huge servers its going to be crammed if i dont make it bigger
please look at this before you release/schedule the release, thanks 🙂
add hammerfly part pls
there is
ok
then ping me when its ready
do you guys need further assistance on testing?
but dont except me to release in 5min then
but dont except me to release in 5min then do it, no balls
wat
i think this is easiest fix
wait
a little bug xd
you have time to fix until 19:00
whats the time for u rn
u have 1 hour
xD
basically
ok
$time hanover
🌞 18/08/2020 17:59:53 (UTC +02:00)
good map
Even though it should be 2*
xd sry for spam
nice tester making one simple fix with 4 new versions
5
stop bully please
chill, take your time xd
ok ok im done just one more
fiiiix xD
didnt i fix
reload map
oh ye :s
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
srysrysrysrysrysrysrysry i just removed the whole line thing
idk if too late to fix mustve uuploaded old vers thought i fixed
Very nice map, but I tested with a player who has 3 hours in the game and he didn’t know How to do a single part
Should be like novice 3
didnt know how to do it xd, so stopper can fail you
get used to fails in this game xd
Still cant get why Saavik made this 1*
Its Definitely too hard
no single part in that map is 1*
grabbing a moving tee out of air is already not 1*
Agree with Konsti and Marcel. 1* is not appropriate
fine
well its probably too late to just change it to 2, but maybe if we compile a list of all novice map rerates we could change them to better suit new players skill level
i.e. newbee is not a 2*
kobras might not even be novice tbh
if anyone thinks its a good idea, here's a spreadsheet with all the novice maps
i'm not sure if admins would change all the difficulties if we rerate but if you're willing to help maybe you could just fill in a novice or two each day