https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=5438&hilit=umbrella

map has been tested

and now we fix design, hope ready for release))

a little bit fixes for missing entities

very nice logo

ty for the bugs found, fixed

one billion year later testers: let's try to test it no way, we need to wait one more billion years again

big problem of ddnet testers, they do not want to test maps

i'm done

there are more maps in testing.

i can test all the maps for one day

you test it then

do it

but im not tester

syltoox new tester role

i wont get tester

even if im good enough

go ahaead

and show us how you properly test all maps in a day

multiple devices

Yes

go write a proper review to all maps in 1 day

dude, he wrote about the test, but not about what the detailed review will do. which you almost never do

I can understand his rage for not releasing 2017 y map

good try boyz i'm not going to do your work i say "i can" but not "i do"

first of all i want to say two things

1. most of tester so lazy and u know it
2. do something for create vision that you test the maps

I watched the test servers for two weeks and so rare see someone

I think Imperius wants to say that it is better to take a team of testers who will not ignore new maps and cry that it’s hard, a lot of maps and few of them. It would be nice to recruit really enthusiastic testers.

your claims have no value if you don't follow through

yeah yeah sure

this is only a call to action

you have no idea what an effort it is to test maps properly

ofcourse, im play in the game ten years and don't know what need to do for the test map

then go ahead and test all maps by today

or shut up

100$ and i do it

deal?

then you should pay testers to test your map LOL

you couldn't even get your own map bug free (that you probably spent a lot time on), so I doubt you could do it for other maps

but please prove me wrong :)

jao, I came here not to argue, but to ask that testers eventually start doing their job its only what i want

and you, as an administrator, should not argue with me, but support the user and check your testers how they do their work

then why are you so disrespectful?

I don't need to check if testers do their work

i'm not disrecpectful dude

because it's not work

it's voluntary

they don't have to test

they are doing it in their free time and without any return

it's often boring and demotivating, I can't force anyone to do it

I respect everyone, but I'm tired of waiting, like many mapmakers

1. most of tester so lazy and u know it

this is very disrespectful

since you have absolutely no idea what it means to test maps

12:07 PM] kavo: i can test all the maps for one day

this is disrespectful too

but I'm tired of waiting ^ the only thing that causes negative emotions

you can help test other maps then instead of making cocky claims

Well, I apologize for the disrespect, if this, of course, hurt someone, it was emotions because of a long wait. In the end, do something, because the card has already been tested, and i tired to sit back, want to change something

then be the change yourself

test ur own map

drama

Testing maps takes time, you can't find all the bugs and errors in one playthrough. Getting a map ready can take several tests, in most cases we need to re-test a map after changes were made. There's only a few of us to test over a dozen of maps, and don't forget we, just like everyone else are people with our own things to do besides testing.

Some "Arrows" (hints) needed 🤔 . Stuck here for about 15 mins thinking about what to do

need some redesign of this one-way-hookthrough probably. Especially on this part, as for me, its hard to understand which one goes which way

"Sun" :3 looks ugly

annoying to pass this one block wide hole. Especially with weak hook. Maybe add 1 more block of free space?

Not enough free space to get speed. Annoys

This part needs to be fixed

Thinking about solutions right now

Problems:

1. very faily the way we try to do it
2. gate closes right in your face if you dont have a lot of speed

3.

you can't even see it's gate over there w/o entities ON

4. Can theoretically be cheated by both guys going upside.

If it's possible even in theory - it needs to be fixed

And now Im not surprised map is not released yet. Random shitty part. Delete this.

Tired. Didn't finish testing

waiting for a more professional player with his report

lol

Ok, on each bug reported mapper have an argument:

1. It took a long time for me to figure out how this part works. Add some hints mapper: I know how it works. No problem here

2. As for me it's hard to understand which hookthrough goes which way, you could add some unhookables between, so it does nothing to a part, but it will be much easier for understanding mapper: I see everything fine. No problem here

3. This part is just annoying, boring and random. Should be deleted mapper: *Made 15 attempts. Failed.* mapper: I dont care. Good part. You can train this...

its not random you just dont know how

such as mapper?)

I don't know how to make this map "ready for release" with such attitude of mapper

so true xD. That's why 90% of ddnet maps are unplayable

even moderate ones

even some novice omg

thats testers fault. Maps with such parts shouldnt be released

lmao so you both would like to play maps where u first try every parts

how annoying that would be

and btw it's brutal

maybe u aren't good enough for it and that' why u find some parts too much faily/random

Let me invite you to the test server and see how you'll play that part I'm talking about

I will answer all:

1. I am not going to correct the design, as well as to adapt to the tastes of testers and NOT testers. Everyone has their own taste.
2. “This part is boring and faily. Delete. " Personally for you? Faily – no, but is it boring for everyone? Show me at least 10 adequate people who call him boring.
3. I’ll fix some really big bugs, but the decision should NOT be taken by the “tester”.
4. Delete novice maps, they are boring.
5. Let's look at the maps im'corneum. Does he add clues everywhere to the walkthrough? The whole point of the map is that you think about how to go through it. Detailed guide to write to the map now the official requirement?

Dont argue while you don't understand what we're talking about, please

^^ thats for Gwendal

Finish this part please

Sorry Im not good enough to do it

Such as my friend.

Such as mapper himself.

dude, I passed it many times a month ago. Perhaps now changed speedups.

Im very happy you passed it and part is possible

It's not deny the fact its annoying and stupid

Again, just for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjBkW-dCbGY

pun only one hookable

put*

what for?

what for are there 3

in 1 it gets harder and looks ugly

its get easier, because u have to hook that specific tile to pass the part

optional this tile, it is possible and below

not sure about that

check first and then ask to fix it

i did

u think i would complain about it if i didnt try it over 50 times?

This is a design element that does not interfere with the part

added arrows, and fixed some tilebugs, lets try "random" part

u think i would complain about it if i didnt try it over 50 times? bro, a month ago it was all right. Test on the local server of old clients. It is not my fault that now it does not work, we issued the map in May.

this part is fixed

nothing has changed physics wise since may

however, the part stopped working

try with the server you were using before to confirm that please

ok, proofs will be in the evening if the fact of change is confirmed

But if the map on the server is updated, I can not confirm anything. Imperius fixed the bug.

we have old version

all map versions are in this channel

unless you deleted them

I was able to pass on the new version. Probably someone noob, if out of 15 attempts any successful. In vain fixed

I love this map

+1

design sometimes ugly

but amazing map

70 minutes to understand

to finish it* xd

and at 5am

so it's not that hard map, it could be rsled

ty guys

stop testing our map, we do not have time to fix it for you

xd

don't listen to him)

https://ddnet.tw/testmaps/?map=Umbrella

one CTO added

delete this map please

why?

$decline

are you going to make a new version of Umbrella ?

no