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all fixed ?

hmm no nothing fixed

https://ddnet.tw/testlogs/show/pyramids

Oh I see I uploaded the wrong file

"Pyramids" by Dr.Dre [Moderate]

I looked at everything in the log file, however I didn't change everything that was suggested

If you wanna know why something wasn't changed just ask, I did it intentionally

unfortunately many things not fixed, go through the list again, under the remarks were many useful improvements

is this really what is wanted? missing unfreeze im to tele, very weired cp placing

New cp layout

I fixed the bugs you pointed out Coke, thnx

And I made all cp visible without letting it hinder the gameplay

Isn't this map 2+ years old now? XD

Some parts are

https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/769983832036081705/770036985082675260 still no unfreeze in to tele 78

cp6 is wrong and speeders are buggy (can lead to dumb fail)

this part is still not fixed, if you take dummy inside the room you can't get back out so it's a fail

scary freeze

place cp81 here

you don't need that many cto's everywhere and make sure the unfreeze behind some is not bugged

Thnx for the pics Ravie, where in the speeders did you fail? begin or end?

I fixed the unfreeze and cp thingies, but for your second and third pics (the faily parts). I don't want my map to be unfailable, and frankly your kinda stupid if you fail like that. When you just pay attention fails like that dont happen.

I think the part with cp81 will be too easy when there's cp there.

Did some minor changes to increase flow and look of the map, also added back tele's in 2 parts in case of wierd but possible fails.

it's too bad that the parts are not fixed correctly, you can still fail in the speedups. will it go on like this with badly or not fixed parts? i like the map but don't want to write everything 100x

I'm gonna fix the speedups, make them unfailable.

But after that, are there really things that need be changed?

yes, everything I wrote about

I adressed everything that I did not change from your suggestions. The rest is fixed

Read a bit back

i marked some blocky t0 spots

need change

Are those in the logs? Because I don't really understand what you mean.

Blocky t0 spots?

yes

look at the old testlog again

I see the parts you mean, don't know what exactly is wrong with them

What do you mean with t0?

team 0

your teleporter are team 0 friendly but some parts not

Ah I see what you mean for the first part you posted in the logs, I'll fix that

But for the second part you mentioned as t0 unfriendly, I don't see how it's t0 unfriendly

the map is mostly unfaily, I have no idea why you want to keep those dumb fail spots and cp81 should be there just because you can miss it

You can fail on a lot of places in the map, just as easy as you could fail on the 2 parts you pointed out. I now made the first part you mentioned so that you can (easily) hammer a tee back if you accidentally get it out. And for the second part, if you just walk in it's not fail, beacuse the guy you drag will fall in tele. So I don't see a point in making the parts even more unfailable, as it's already pretty hard to fail in the first place.

And cp is now visible in the map, so no point in making the part of cp81 unnecessarily easy.

I also added a platform in the t0 unfriendly part you were talking about Coke, the other part I added more tele in case of a lot of people there at the same time. Thanks for those suggestions.

u can still stuck in this speedups part

xD

maybe delete speedups and use laser pullers

or speedups just at the bottom idk

where? because I did change and test some

I'll redo that part, maybe laserdrag

just don't have any speedups pointing up and don't use max speed because it's buggy

also adding cp81 there doesn't make anything easier, maybe you understood it wrong xD

The CPs Coke mentioned are fixed

Other cp's and back teles adjusted to prevent 3p cheating

Speedup part is now unfailable to my knowledge

Clerify gave it a run, he pointed out some things

All fixed in this version

Forgot to add cp81 on that little plateau Ravie, Ill fix it tomorrow

layer #6+#7 should be hd

if top guy gets cp 57 and bottom guy fails his part, there's no way back and you're just stuck

is fixed now 🙂

layer #6+#7 should be hd

https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/769983832036081705/771792024209850398 its still a little bit to hard

u forgot 1 more tele 😄

Here too

unhook to infinity not marked

1 tile construccion missing

doesnt that look weird?

Mark this back tele info, as you did further in the map.

Also this is not "important", but i mean you marked the "tp/cp" down, with the alpha tile. But then above you didn't.

https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/769983832036081705/773632622273888266

layer #10 should be hd

more t0 friendly

grenade cheatable here

i hope thats all now

Thanks Coke, I redid everything you pointed out except for;

I kept tele 1 on the right side, in your first photo

I also want to keep the cp 15 at photo 8, the purpose is for when you play without entities

The hookable on photo 10 is to make the part non-faily, if your partner gets stuck in freeze up

And the ss after that, I also really like it how the part works now, because it's really trying to learn the player how to deal with those kinds of teleporters, it becomes way more boring if you add unhookables there

Also not nice for speedrunners

The deep part is cheatable, but its really hard, as you say. I don't think I want to make such a part necessarily unskippable. Same goes for the rocket part, however that part I changed so now its really unlikely or impossible to the cheat.

I don't know how you look at it, but I like hard skips, and these skips take waay more effort than just doing the part and it doesnt really amount to like a cheat in any way, personally I'd like to keep those in my map.

And the ss after that, I also really like it how the part works now, because it's really trying to learn the player how to deal with those kinds of teleporters, it becomes way more boring if you add unhookables there

i think its more interesting with unhook xd

I kept tele 1 on the right side, in your first photo

cto placing very blocky

https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/769983832036081705/775765451522310154 cheat not fixed

https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/769983832036081705/775762483130400768 u dont understand what i mean? or u dont want solo part?

https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/769983832036081705/775769803658100798 forgot or dont want it?

cto placing very blocky

ye I guess it could become blocking when lots of people play, I put on the left platform 🙂

https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/769983832036081705/775762483130400768 u dont understand what i mean? or u dont want solo part?

rather no solo part

https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/769983832036081705/775769803658100798 forgot or dont want it?

this is about your first mention:

i think its more interesting with unhook xd

Corner bug, deep part cheat and tele 1 are fixed now

still skipble

possible from here

Fixed

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/769983832036081705/776562333722869800 Except for this, I like the part like I mapped now. Unnecessary hard for noobs, easy for speedrunners. It's a nice little extra if you're an advanced player.

triki and i think this part is much cooler with unhook

https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/769983832036081705/775767144591654981

but the only thing you get from putting no hook there is a failable part, right?

it's a really dumb place to fail

make it unfaily?

Yes, that's why the hookable is there...

maybe make it unfaily at the top

I don't really understand what is wrong with having the hookables there, the part seems ok right, why would i wanna make it one try and unfaily instead of hard and unfaily?

I'm gonna redo the part a bit

This is now the part

Looks annoying

But I have to test

Made the part a little bit easier, and the part above (with endless) unfaily

Well not unfaily, I removed a stupid way to fail

Made the cp better

I don't really understand what is wrong with having the hookables there, the part seems ok right, why would i wanna make it one try and unfaily instead of hard and unfaily?

nothink wrong. we just give to u tip how will be better. ur choose do or not.

I improved that part a bit

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/769983832036081705/776785547254693898

should make it less confusing

fixed, thanks Zweitleben

Ah thnx

you tried to make everything t0 friendly, now only the start area has to be adjusted...I think it is much too narrow for t0

Made the start area a bit wider, flatter and more comfortable, as well as the beginning of the first part

I meant rather where you spawns 😄

maybe move the logo and make the whole spawn more t0 friendly

if you do not know exactly what I mean ask gladly for

move the logo - most interesting suggestion I've seen

maybe move the logo and make the whole spawn more t0 friendly

?

its very blocky with this little spawn point

how does the logo block you

u cant make it bigger or better without moving this logo

if you say so

and it is only a proposal

as you have seen the map needed many improvements but now it is almost finished

and no other tester is interested

I didn't see

https://tenor.com/view/kengan-ashura-smash-fight-anime-gif-16649602

i thought you were more concerned with a map before posting something

I don't have to know whole history

I see new version and a comment to it with a screenshot

isn't it enough

i think its a little unnecessary if i ask the mapper if he wants to change anything

just like with the hd rule, i have now adjusted it to avoid this

my HD comment was unnecessary?

this

this

to much space in this rule

now its clear

😄

I don't understand

I don't understand your answers at all tbh

the old hd rule had too much space

and was not clear

and who did you discuss it with

or just changed it

who created this rule post?

idk

can you edit other people's posts in the forum?

and I do not even have an account in the forum

me? not

but that's not answer to my question

again

it is self-explanatory

thats why i say that

so you adjusted it or not, wtf

i adjusted yes

but i dont have an forum account

so I consulted with the person who wrote the rules

You want to provoke me specifically, so I will let you think a little

WHAT

provoke to what

?

wow you ar eback to first msg

talk in DMs

I thought it's over but I saw new msg

no its done

xD

very clever to talk about mapping rules in DM

then

just not in testing channels please

the whole "offtopic" thing is annoying

idk where to write it

had loved to see +50 comments talking about my map, instead of these unrelated conversations

and I think the spawn is just fine the way it is now

no its way too small

imagine there spawn 25 tees

always think that whenever a map gets released almost always will be full 64 ppl xD

there's no need to mark checkpoints if you just make them work properly every time, also why is there random stuff on spawn now?

random stuff?

i'll keep the cps marked

added 2 platforms to the spawn to give people more room as they start etc.

there's now more than enough room in spawn for big bulks of players

what is this for?

So people turn off entites

incredibol answer

$ready 4

finnaly

this speeder is ridicoulus

did u change the speedup force without telling ? its random now

this was never a problem in testing

speedup force now 10

I would guess it's rather about weak/strong than random.

maybe try it before on ur home server

before it was no problem

i think it was 5 or 10 speed

it's still 40

idk what happened

i fixed that

Maybe map didnt rest yet on 1 server

that was probably it