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my first map 👉 👈

fix

fix

screenshot

fix visuals

pls dont spam map updates you can save them and upload them all togehter

sorry

you do not need this in 2k

logo can be downscaled and compressed

this can be included with the logo instead

1. remove this unfreeze it looks weird and is quite hard to jump this far
2. you could map it so you dont need stoppers it would be less confusing for new players
3. same as 2. novice might not understand and just go up instantly
4. this part is also not easy todo for novices they can miss hook or run into freeze, you could aybe do it like this
5. novices will have a hard time getting far enough and the fact you need to double jump makes you sometimes throw him into the ceiling
6. you dont need this many stoppers you can do it like this without any
7. this is very tight you could give more space then you would not need the stoppers
8. very long drop for no reason
9. a bit tight again and you could remove these stoppers but they only speed it up so its fine ig
10. you throw him back on the block and the stoppers are uselless i need to go now ill maybe test later

i forgot ss 10

2. maybe this?

and like this

you can still do it without stoppers

like this?

yeah

and top is also posssible without stoppers

yay

add unfreeze here, i gtg now you gotta do the rest yourself

hit here

1. delete 1 tile unfreeze
2. added info
3. remade part
4. added blocks
5. added stopper
6. deleted stopper

1 this is unnecessary 2 I think parts like that (hammer through wall) might take too long for novices (but there's only 2 of them, so not that much) 3 I thought that it's deep and you're suposed to go through this. Unfair faily part

unfreeze change

why in some parts u fill the blocks out of the map and others no

u can fall up to tp without touching and go to spawn

the unfreze > dont have logo

need a turn off entities

i think here need an unfreeze

faily part

put 1 tp only is a solo

put 1 tp only is a dragdont go 2 ppl down

again double tp

no blocks

1. added turn off entities
2. fix checkpoint teleport
3. added unfreeze
4. faily part fixed
5. deleted teleport
6. deleted teleport again
7. deleted teleport again again
8. added hook blocks

yellow color is used only for unfreeze

11. make these 2 blocks also hookthrough so its easier for novice
12. design error
13. stopper here is uselless make all these block hookthrough aswell
14. the part is completely doable without these stoppers
15. you can replace the top stopper with a block and the bottom one doesnt even do anything all these stoppers are not needed only where the green square is and you can just finish without undeeping him

1. remade part
2. remade part
3. added ht blocks
4. added ht blocks
5. design fixed

Beatiful map

why are you not removing most of the stoppers? just curious since they generally shouldnt be used for the purpose your using them in

tf is that

I don't know what to use instead of stoppers.

added block

i have given you many solutions

some design changes

change design

xewoiy added it yesterday

map in test server not changed

But some freeze have the same desing but no logo

They don't have Sense

wdym

very tight and uncomfortable place, make it bigger, down section especially

Also very tight section here, not very uncomfortable start of the part

also u can skip the start of the part and just throw the tee

also found this thing that close to the part is also very annoying, imagine a lot of tees trying to go through it while someone is making the part

tho u should understand if you are gonna delete it, or move, the throw is just gonna be easier

prolly also make this 1 block tunnel bigger, atleast a few blocks cuz someone can easily block the way

not needed stoppers

maybe add some unfreze around here

close this gap, or make it higher

down stoppers gonna block the tees if more than 2 tees on part, and the upper stoppers is just not really needed, delete both, or save the upper one and move it 2 blocks down

not needed at all

imagine making this part, and ur teammate is just doing 2 hooks, unbalanced part

kinda skippable, and also part is not really structured well for novices

2 tpto is enough, delete right ones, cuz too close to the freeze

not really a big issue, but just strange to see something like that on one type of tiles and the same setup with different corners (i know it's all over the map, and again, it's not a big issue, just noticed)

not really needed, u can just make 1 more unhookable

quickly looked through the map, design is looking ok, parts are pretty simple but imo looks nice, sometimes map is very very tight, please take this into account

no corners for tp with grass

for speedrun its good, for novice its hard

agree with tensitw but would be great to leave just few tiles and not this big platform

its really comfortable to have more free space there

1. remade part
2. remade part, added unfreeze
3. remade part
4. deleted stoppers
5. added turn off entities
6. deleted 2 teleports

50% of what you said has been said before why repeat it?

its good that a tester has said it since i got ignored, id rather they do it bcs the tester repeated it then just not do it at all

the map have block out of the map in some parts only and in others no (try to put or in all or dont put)

can block ppl here

put single tp only in 3 is 1p part

block part also

so hard to save if im a novice player

the 2 blocks of up cant save without hook with distance

why double tp? xd

and why unsolo if u cant touch solo and back

put stoppers here idk, the ppl can trough ppl to deep to troll

and this is all that i found for now

thanks

i fix it

Bro fr I didn't see this

because after the update from xewoiy, you didn't look at the map, but I noticed it after the update

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In my opinion, this hammer is too difficult for novice players. Besides, this part is getting quite long. Look at how long it takes players to get from the start to this part and imagine there are currently 64 players on the map. I would change the part to one with a better flow or simplify the current one. Remember that this is just an opinion - it is better to wait for the opinions of other relevant testers before changes.

Again I have the impression that it is too difficult

If one of the newbies manages to make this hammer, it would be good for the second player to have the freedom to hook some walls. I would replace these blocks with hookable ones

Wouldn't it be better to get rid of solo/unsolo and make the walls closer together?

It's hard for me to imagine a typical noob doing these two corners. This part seems moderate to me.

it's definitely too difficult for a novice

or I didn't understand what these stoppers are for

unnecessary in my opinion

Moving a player from deep to this part feels too hard

In my opinion, in terms of gameplay, this map is more of a moderate one

Which doesn't mean the gameplay is bad. I had a good time playing, and the map is nice. However, the difficulty level is a bit off.

also very well-made, clean design 👍

For now, I would hold off on fixing anything until proper testers test the map.

Hard?

Xd

yes. Hard for novice

for newbie players

ye

Isnt

Is 2 hooks

requires a drag, or if not, a strange sequence of movements

Do any of you make maps for KoG? This design looks very familiar to me...

Pweh and elythrix by me

ahh

Cool

I hate this narrow aisle design.

Maybe look at previous tests before repeating most of the things

Are you kidding about me?

swapped unhook to hook

There is stopper up, not hard for novice hmmm

I meant ht

It's hard to get someone into the stopper because it's quite tight

The use of dj for a new to make the part is hard I think

u forgot 1 block :DDDD

very beatiful map

where all testers?(

They take a while to relax.Just wait 2-3 months.

its been 84 years

1. this whole part flows really weirdly
2. this is completely useless
3. remove one freeze or make it so its not that ez to fail jumping against the wall
4. if someone is able to turn on entities i doubt they will need this
5. the space marked with blue feels a bit tight to hook him up then hammer, these stoppeers are useless, and maybe remove a bit of unhhokable it will feel a bit cramped with larger groups
6. whats the solo for if ppl go one by one nothing should happen
7. the stopper serves no purpose and if you pull him you will first pull him up the wall which is slightly annoying you can just add 1 more block and it will work better 8+9. you have tp to sometimes on the ground and sometimes in the air
8. this part is annoying you have to hold hook while hammering and then you can pull him under

:|

for your 9th screenshot:

Tele can be on the ground in solo parts. The air rule was introduced to prevent 2 tees from spawning in the same one and flying 300km into the air

11. you foce ppl to go under but have hookthrough
12. all these stoppers are doing nothing

ah isee didnt know that ty

Your 4th point I also wouldn't change - novice players need! Handholding, we all did when we first started.

but a novice wont turn on entities

thats what i even said

i didnt mean remove it i said dont need to mark it in entities

I say mark it in entities

No reason to strip information where you want information

up to them ig im just saying my opinion

6. solo for noblocker

1. change part
2. mini changes
3. deleted 2 unhook blocks
4. deleted stoppers

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Preventing a skip is completely useless?

i mentioned something useless multiple times care to enlighten me with your wisdom

Well only one time you mentioned completely but I'm talking about 2.

he could just place a wall

and leave a one block gap open where you can pull the person out

I agree on that but I think this is just as good and looks a bit better than a tiny hole.

now that i know the purpose i agrree

And on 4. I agree with melon. Either a leave it marked in entities or a turn off sign. All information should be available in both modes!

(Or hinted at by a turn off entities sign.) :P

why i cant make this "useless" part??

Huh?

what?

i just didnt see the purpose in it and what i said thecnically works but i do aggree that its fine as is

i still waiting

When beginners tried to pass the section, they probably left the tee on the <<, and if another beginner tries to do the same thing, the tee will just fall off xd

oh

xd

If I were the mapper, I would add more movement to this ground, instead of just holding D and hooking upwards.

good, i make it

and fix it

Cool map

beatiful Design

GL ❤️

1 remade solopart 2 changed stoppers

Solo seems too hard for newbies at this point 😅

remove the freeze on the top then its fine

cool design

Hey! took a run for the map and I have some things to point out:

1. I think you should move this wall 1 block to the right, if the dummy doesnt get to the stopper directly and stays down, its a bit anoying to get him to the stoper without hammering him through the floor (I dont know how to explain if u want i can send a recording)
2. I would delete the teleport design here because I think you are going for a "big drop" to next part but if when going down you see the teleport it gets rid of the effect completly, i would quit the design for a clean drop, and also, i would put more up the tele-to in the other side, its to close to the ground alredy and it also ruins a bit the effect
3. and maybe add a bit more design to the sides or take the tele up, its visible, but its not that big of a deal

I really like the design and I would enjoy playing this if it gets released! :3

about the first point, if u move it the normal way gets harder dont move it

maybe move the left wall, that would give some space too and it shouldnt be a problem

like this, maybe that good :D

i still waiting

x2

winter day!

(ignore this)

Yo! I did a quick gameplay run and this is what I found

pls put this behind the tee, looks way better

I think too

Sorry, I only said that to annoy you, thanks.

im not a fan of the yellow color on the unfreeze, you should use a different one that matches the palette

move this teleport one more to the top, so players can respawn faster

the spacing here feels too tight, keep in mind this is a very low-difficulty map. You could add some more space in (1) and delete some freezes in (2)

forcing the “deep” in this specific part doesn’t really fit. What I mean is that the use of deep should be justified. For example, instead of just undeeping the player, you could add a laser that helps the other tee complete the next part. Bear in mind to do something that actually fits the map.

usually, the first part of a novice map should be the easiest and the fastest. In my opinion, this part isn’t that fast. Those two characteristics are important to avoid player congestion.

. I already said this, but he'll only change it because you're a tester, which proves how corrupt the system is 😭

thats how usually works, i guess... you should try to apply to trial tester if you´r experienced enough

I know, it's just a joke ❤️

1. Up this one tile; 2. i dont see the point of using checkpoint here, if you'r afraid of the player may fail then try to get them to a safe spot like the example on the next screenshot; 3. Usually novice players dont know how to hammer, you should put a unfreeze there

Example:

Overall, the map feels a bit generic. For example, there isn’t a big difference between the first and second screenshots, although that’s also somewhat expected in novice maps. Personally, when I made a novice map, I tried to add jump “tunes” to make it more instructional. I would try to improve the overall gameplay by making it more didactic, as I mentioned before (not necessarily by adding tunes like I did, since that might not fit the map either), widening the paths, and reducing player congestion while doing the parts. Personally, I wouldn’t release it, so I’ll put it to a vote.

/waiting

$waiting

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oh dam i havent tested in a long time

Go pin message or https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1423953532826030113 And touch waiting mapper

Xd

so ill put it in waiting in the mid time

🔥

ty 🙂

Era mejor hablar español

Pq tenes el perfil en inglés? Xd

porque por lo general estoy en discrods que son en inglés, y en los canales de tester y testeo se habla ingles /// because im on english discords, besides in tester channels we use english as our main comunication

Aaa

Yapo

Me acordé tarde quien eras xd

Ya quisiera ser yo tester pa declinear cualquier map

xD

Smh

$deepl

1. up cto
2. up tele

idk what i can change next

He legit told you, he even gave you examples

alter the parts

do what he said

have a flowy first part

make the deep have a purpose it would have no difference rn if he werent deep

and other ppl have also said stuff previously that you didnt change

if I don't want to change it because I like the result, what will happen?

I don't know what to do with it, maybe I'll change it so it's even worse

then your map wont get released

beacuse they are issues

and if you just dont change stuff it gets frustrating i tested this map 3 times and you changed close to nothing of the things i mentioned

if you dont wanna listen to feedback then its gonna take a long time to release

Sometimes it's not even the feedback, but I also mentioned some And you haven't changed at all.

eh

ok

What you could do is copy and paste every part and paste it on a new file, then you can change whatever freely

Not for new players

Dragging someone like 5 meters isn’t a purpose, it’s just forcing an unnecessary deep, as I told you. If yo are going to use it you have to add something else that gives the player something to do next so is balanced for the two

why ar you telling that me lol, i reinforced your point by saying if the top player wouldnt be deep it would have no difference

Then you should either delete the undeep and make the map even shorter or add a feature similar to what I suggested and add more content, obvious decision imo 🤷🏻‍♂️. Tho there isn’t a rule for that but is what always has been our standard for the use of deep 🙂

Me? Or what do you mean?

i am not the mapper

xddd

Is part of the process of learning how to do maps properly trough time

i am saying this map has lots of unchanged feedback by other ppl including me and other ppl

Ops

dw

Well, everything I said

should read it. pls read the feedback above I’ll keep the map in waiting for the during of a major update or the vote decision

As i said b4: Overall, the map feels quite generic. While this is somewhat expected for novice maps, I don’t think it brings much more than what already exists in the current novice pool. Personally, I would like to see more innovation even in easy maps, so they don’t all feel the same. I know this is difficult, but it’s also part of the learning process.

One of the main reasons I don’t think this map is ready for release is that, in my opinion, only one part actually works well and feels decent. Most of the rest relies on repeating the same movement and structure over and over again (as seen in the screenshots), which makes the gameplay feel monotonous.

In terms of size and spacing, the map also feels a bit tight overall. Both the transitions between parts and the parts themselves could benefit from having more space. In my view, unless it’s a dummy map or a solo, the gameplay should ideally alternate between harder parts, transitions, and easier parts, to create a better flow and pacing.

That said, I think you’re on the right track — this mostly comes down to needing more practice. I don’t know if this is your first map, but with more experience, I’m sure your next submission will be better. Feel free to ask for help or feedback in

or in the

.

Good luck, and keep mapping.

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but shouldnt the difficulty of the map be the same throughout i dont understand your last point since it contradicts what ive heard

It can be that way too, but also can be adjusted throughout the course of the map. I expressed wrongly on that point, tho, the flow and pacing issues are closely related to the lack of space mentioned above

ohh

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i agree with decline and smth what nobody said. The first five parts feel better than the rest of the map because the rest are just generic drag novice maps. gl with map